NEW Mark Ingram thread (post Dallas)

[dizzle88]

Originally Posted by Choupique

i beg to differ. it is indeed a matter of loyalty.

not one fan could replace ingram, is my guess.

i trust the coaches far more than any fair weather fans...

their own words prove their character, regardless if others see that.

So if I say garrett hartley sucks and should be cut because he's dangerously close to costing us games, would I be counted as unloyal and a fair weather fan? Just because the coaching staff are sticking by him and he's still our starting kicker?

[Danno]

[SaintnDE]

Originally Posted by Danno

He's a pro.

[TheOak]

Loyalty has nothing to do with Honour/Honor and loyalty to a team is different then loyalty to a player. If you are loyal to a player then you are going to find your self wearing many different Jerseys in your lifetime.

In contrast to your train of thought Choup, voicing a negative opinion about a player that is preforming badly is proving loyalty to the team... Maintaining loyalty to an under preforming player actually shows that the "team" comes second in your priorities.

Players come and go, and unless you are the Rams, Raiders, Oilers, Colts, Browns, or Raiders.. Your team has always been in the same city with the same name. (There are a few more but they are not in the last 4 decades)

Regardless of form, it doesn't show any disloyalty. Telling fans to jump to another wagon does show a little about character though.

[ClintSaints]

One thing I will say is that the desire and work ethic have always been there for Ingram. You can tell he cares passionately about the team and the game. It seemed like he was a man on a mission the other night. He was very hard to bring down. Yes, there were holes in Dallas' defensive line, but Ingram was still on fire.

Now if he can do even a serviceable job against the 49ers stout defense, I'll really be convinced.

[The Dude]

Originally Posted by Choupique

Move to Atlanta.

If you can't be loyal to your own team, don't be anything.

Just move to a lame place such as Detroit, Dallas or Atlanta.

Loyalty proves honor, RIGHT?

I'm glad our team hung in with Ingram.

I'm glad P Thomas took him under his wing and showed loyalty to a team mate.

Perhaps that'll teach SOME of you a thing or two about honor and loyalty.

Two Dat.

Dance with the one who brung ya.

Good Job Ingram!

Not liking a player because he doesnt get the job done is not being disloyal. Just because a player is on the team doesnt mean he is the best option if he sucks. I think most of us want Ingram to succeed, but he has proven he can't get it done on a regular basis. Hell I hope this was his breakout game and the light finally clicked on, but after 3 years I doubt it.

[TheOak]

He probably mounts his fish.

[cmsaint]

First time opening this thread and Im not going to bother reading all 50 pages but I will add my 2 cents.

Ingram's showing was great and all but I hated it. Now the staff will think they need to give him his fair touches and he has already proven he is average at best. PT is the more polished/serviceable back. Nothing good will come of this and its not a loyalty issue. If anything its the fans being loyal to the franchise. The ingram experiment failed a long time ago.

[TheOak]

Originally Posted by cmsaint

First time opening this thread and Im not going to bother reading all 50 pages but I will add my 2 cents.

Ingram's showing was great and all but I hated it. Now the staff will think they need to give him his fair touches and he has already proven he is average at best. PT is the more polished/serviceable back. Nothing good will come of this and its not a loyalty issue. If anything its the fans being loyal to the franchise. The ingram experiment failed a long time ago.

I wouldn't be so quick to think that our Front Office is sold just yet. What I expect is they will go with the hot hand against the 49ers to start and see how it plays out. If he stalls then PT will get his carries as long as he is gaining.

*Caveat - I still from memory think we switched back to man/gap run blocking against Dallas, and if we did then Katy bar the door because we will have another 100+ yard rushing game.

[The Dude]

Originally Posted by TheOak

I wouldn't be so quick to think that our Front Office is sold just yet. What I expect is they will go with the hot hand against the 49ers to start and see how it plays out. If he stalls then PT will get his carries as long as he is gaining.

*Caveat - I still from memory think we switched back to man/gap run blocking against Dallas, and if we did then Katy bar the door because we will have another 100+ yard rushing game.

I REALLY hope this is the case and a matter of adjustment and not just a fluke against a Dallas ****ty banged up D. It would be awesome if Payton has found a way to make this unit better. If our line can play like that the rest of the year we will get to the SB. Guaranteed.