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who has had their pay day and now would want to end it all with a ring? thats the type of options we have due to the cap.

Maurice Jones-Drew has always jumped out at me and how would you reshuffle to get him in the mix?

i think he might do min salary and would welcome the rotation and his skill set fit perfect with the saints.

just throwing it out there

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I think he is looking for a payday. If we are going to spend like drunken sailors let's go after Charles Tillman.

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Maurice Jones-Drew is signed for 5 years / $31.10 million with the Jacksonville Jaguars. He is making $4.95 million in 2013

i think he had his pay day but length of contract may be a sticking point.

RB in the Draft looks to be loaded also. i would call to see for the fun of it. plus what a can of worms that would open up here :p

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i am still looking deeper into the list an at veterans ending their careers wanting a ring after having there pay day. there are always a few of those.

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You have to remember that we can't be going after almost any of the top Free Agents, especially since we have to get under the cap first. Even with cutting Vilma and Smith, and restructuring Brees, we still have to sign our picks as well. Everyone here would love Mack, but it is not feasable, which is why he is 4th. Orakpo, even though he is injured, will go into FA because the Redskins will not franchise him, and he could be a steal. People sometimes suprise after being labeled injury prone. And Strief is going to get paid, so yes I believe these two would be worth paying less for. Whose to say Thurmond will do it again anyways?

These guys fit most the criteria we have: Cheap and at a position of need.

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Our 2014 free-agent motto!!!

I think the best we can hope for in free-agency is to maintain our current talent level, which was approximately one play away from the NFC Championship game.

We'll shuffle the talent level at some positions, add a few guys who were hurt last year, but I doubt we sign a Keenan Lewis type impact player.

Robinson will help at CB
Butler will help at OLB
Morgan will help at WR

and we need some 2nd/3rd year players to step it up a bit
Reddick
Toon
Tanner
Hill
Lelito (to perhaps replace DLP?)
Johnson (to perhaps replace Collins?)
Harris (to perhaps replace Strief)
Foster
Dawson
Rufus
White
Sweeting

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Considering Morgans track record for maintaining health, I am not putting any eggs in that basket.

3 seasons 11 games 10 receptions.

Ivory at least played in 24 games in 3 years.

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I would say add Sam Shields (CB from Green Bay) to that list too. He is very underrated and Lewis + Shields (with Corey White as slot CB) would be amazing.

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I agree Verner is better than Shields, but Verner wouldn't come here to be a #2 CB when he will have offers from other teams to be "the guy" at cornerback in my opinion. Verner also might be too expensive since our cap situation is pretty bad..

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Alterraun Verner would be an interesting move

lets see 5'10 and coming of a pro bowl season? 2 strikes lol

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SAINTS PROJECTED DEPTH CHART - 2014

OFFENSE

QB (2) Drew Brees, Luke McCown, Ryan Griffin

RB (5) Pierre Thomas, Darren Sproles, Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson, Travaris Cadet

FB (1) Jed Collins (RFA), Austin Johnson (FC)

WR (3) Marques Colston, Robert Meachem, Nick Toon

LT (2) Terron Armstead, Charles Brown, Marcel Jones (FC)

LG (2) Ben Grubbs, Senio Kelemete (FC)

C (1) Brian De La Puente

RG (2) Jahri Evans, Tim Lelito

RT (2) Zach Strief, Bryce Harris (ERFA), Ty Nsekhe (FC)

TE (3) Jimmy Graham, Benjamin Watson, Josh Hill

WR (2) Kenny Stills, Lance Moore, Andy Tanner (FC), Joseph Morgan (RFA), Charles Hawkins (FC)


DEFENSE

DE (2) Akiem Hicks, Glenn Foster, Kenyon Coleman

NT (3) Brodrick Bunkley, John Jenkins

DE (2) Cameron Jordan, Tyrunn Walker, Tom Johnson

OLB (2) Junior Galette, Will Smith, Keyunta Dawson, Rufus Johnson

ILB (3) David Hawthorne, Jon Vilma, Will Herring

ILB (2) Curtis Lofton, Ramon Humber, Kevin Reddick

OLB (2) Parys Haralson, Victor Butler, Kyle Knox

CB (3) Jabari Greer, Patrick Robinson, Rod Sweeting, Terrence Frederick

SS (3) Kenny Vaccaro, Roman Harper, Jordan Pugh

FS (2) Malcolm Jenkins, Rafael Bush

CB (2) Keenan Lewis, Corey White, Trevin Wade (ERFA), Derrius Brooks (FC)


SPECIALISTS

K (1) Shayne Graham, Derek Dimke (FC)

P (1) Thomas Morstead

LS (1) Justin Drescher, Jed Collins

H Thomas Morstead

PR Darren Sproles, Travaris Cadet, Lance Moore

KR Darren Sproles, Travaris Cadet, Pierre Thomas

KO Thomas Morstead, Shayne Graham




KEY:

POS (#Likely Slots)

Projected Starter

Free Agent

Free Agent (RFA) {Restricted Free Agent}

Free Agent (ERFA) {Exclusive Rights Free Agent}

Free Agent (FC) {Futures Contract}

Vulnerable/Salary Cap Casualty

Source(s):

New Orleans Saints - NFL Team Contracts - Rotoworld.com

A look at the New Orleans Saints' 2014 roster decisions - ESPN

:bng:

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there will be a player or two in the next couple of years that will not be with this team and the fans will be shocked

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My bet is either Moore, PT, Ingram or Sproles. And it may be more than one of them, and it may be this year.

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Of Pierre, Ingram or Sproles...

I'm half expecting a Sproles trade. He's highest cap hit and I think he'd have the most value on the market. PT has always been under rated. Ingram is still under his rookie contract and cheap and I don't think he's had enough good games to have shaken off his reputation yet, so not as much value on the market.

But who knows. If a team approaches the Saints with a good offer on any of them they'll probably be gone.

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i do not think this team is ready to lose PT just yet. i do not see a third down back on this team to replace him. PT and sproils work as a team against defnses take one part away and that will kill other player

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The Saints Free Agents.
 

New Orleans Saints

Luke McCown, QB
Robert Meachem, WR
Jimmy Graham, TE
Charles Brown, OL
Zach Strief, OL
Brian De La Puente, OL
Kenyon Coleman, DE
Keyunta Dawson, DE
Parys Haralson, LB
Will Herring, LB
Ramon Humber, LB
Jonathan Vilma, LB
Malcolm Jenkins, S
Shayne Graham, K

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Graham, Jenkins and Coleman. Done.

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Personally i think our offense needs to spend more money on the O-line rather than WRs and TEs. I don't think we need Jimmy back; bringing him back may hurt the team more than it helps. Lets remember we have had the #1 offense for many years before Jimmy was with us. We (the team) should focus on keeping Drew upright and getting the running game going strong. Those two factors only happen when you have a solid line.

Flame away.

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No flames here. I would love the O-line to be road graders, also agree about the run game. I do think that we need another WR to replace Meachum. The way I look at Meachum going to San Diego and getting cut after signing a big contract tells me there are better WR's out there, I think Moore should be replaced also but Stills in my opinion can play the slot better. If Graham does get a contract( a top dollar) we are defeating the purpose of building. We won before he was here we can win with him gone+ two 1st round picks with the right team we could build one he!! of an O.

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Going through an overview of the roster, with free agency and the draft coming up, the following are worth note:

- Can expect to begin turnover of some running backs due to age, costs.

- The already thin offensive line is now without starting center, right tackle...

- Big Decisions on Lance Moore's costs/benefit, re-signing of Robert Meachem, move on from Nick Toon...

- Jimmy Graham has played this team into a predicament; should've spread the ball around more...

- Must maintain effective depth on the defensive line; will we be up against the cap with a Cam Jordan decision next year...

- Very thin again at Linebacker with little cap room

- Thin at Safety, but why re-sign two safeties (Harper, Jenkins) to starter salaries when the two best safeties are Vaccaro and Bush?!?

- Struck Gold at Cornerback; does Patrick Robinson have it in him with his last season under contract to supplant Greer?

- Is Shayne Graham the solution, for now?!?

SAINTS PROJECTED DEPTH CHART - 2014

OFFENSE

QB (2) Drew Brees, Luke McCown, Ryan Griffin

RB (5) Pierre Thomas, Darren Sproles, Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson, Travaris Cadet

FB (1) Jed Collins (RFA), Austin Johnson (FC)

WR (3) Marques Colston, Robert Meachem, Nick Toon

LT (2) Terron Armstead, Charles Brown, Marcel Jones (FC)

LG (2) Ben Grubbs, Senio Kelemete (FC)

C (1) Brian De La Puente

RG (2) Jahri Evans, Tim Lelito

RT (2) Zach Strief, Bryce Harris (ERFA), Ty Nsekhe (FC)

TE (3) Jimmy Graham, Benjamin Watson, Josh Hill

WR (2) Kenny Stills, Lance Moore, Andy Tanner (FC), Joseph Morgan (RFA), Charles Hawkins (FC)


DEFENSE

DE (2) Akiem Hicks, Glenn Foster, Kenyon Coleman

NT (3) Brodrick Bunkley, John Jenkins

DE (2) Cameron Jordan, Tyrunn Walker, Tom Johnson

OLB (2) Junior Galette, Will Smith, Keyunta Dawson, Rufus Johnson

ILB (3) David Hawthorne, Jon Vilma, Will Herring

ILB (2) Curtis Lofton, Ramon Humber, Kevin Reddick

OLB (2) Parys Haralson, Victor Butler, Kyle Knox

CB (3) Jabari Greer, Patrick Robinson, Rod Sweeting, Terrence Frederick

SS (3) Kenny Vaccaro, Roman Harper, Jordan Pugh

FS (2) Malcolm Jenkins, Rafael Bush

CB (2) Keenan Lewis, Corey White, Trevin Wade (ERFA), Derrius Brooks (FC)


SPECIALISTS

K (1) Shayne Graham, Derek Dimke (FC)

P (1) Thomas Morstead

LS (1) Justin Drescher, Jed Collins

H Thomas Morstead

PR Darren Sproles, Travaris Cadet, Lance Moore

KR Darren Sproles, Travaris Cadet, Pierre Thomas

KO Thomas Morstead, Shayne Graham




KEY:

POS (#Likely Slots)

Projected Starter

Free Agent

Free Agent (RFA) {Restricted Free Agent}

Free Agent (ERFA) {Exclusive Rights Free Agent}

Free Agent (FC) {Futures Contract}

Vulnerable/Salary Cap Casualty

Source(s):

New Orleans Saints - NFL Team Contracts - Rotoworld.com

A look at the New Orleans Saints' 2014 roster decisions - ESPN

:bng:

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Robert Ayers, Defensive End/Outside Linebacker Denver maybe. he might be had at decent price.

bleacher report may have actually stepped into some thing this time

2014 NFL Free Agents: Whom Should Your Team Be Calling? | Bleacher Report

Husain Abdullah, Safety

Captain Munnerlyn, Cornerback

Corey Graham, Cornerback

James Ihedigbo, Safety
few other players mentioned that caught my eye

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Franchise tag window, Combine next up on NFL calendar | ProFootballTalk

...Monday, February 17, when teams can begin to apply the franchise tag...ending Monday, March 3 in which teams can use the designation...

After the Combine ends, free agency takes center stage. The three-day negotiating period between teams and representatives of free agents commences on Saturday, March 8. Free agency officially begins at 4 p.m. Eastern on Tuesday, March 11.

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I agree with all of your decisions, but it will be hard to get either of those guys. Alterraun Verner will ask for a huge contract way out of our league.

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I love the list but money is the issue so i am trying to look deep into FA and see what maybe there.

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We need to get some of our own guys re-signed and make a couple of small moves.

A lot of people seem to want Strief gone, but look at the available free agents and tell me he's not better than almost all of them. He's worth the $3-3.5 million/year he'll get and will probably give us a bit of a hometown discount. I'm not as big on keeping DLP but if you let him go you'd better damn sure know your replacement is going to work out. Unless you can get Mack (unlikely) there's no point in looking for outside FA help at center.

I could see us bringing in a WR, if Moore is cut and Meachem not re-signed there is a gaping hole there. Really like Emmanuel Sanders. Maybe a big 3-4 OLB although Haralson would probably be the best value. Doubt they look for corner/safety help but there are some good depth guys available (I really love Cassius Vaughn as a nickel/dime guy).


I think my ideal (but realistic) offseason would look something l like this:

QB - Brees, Griffin
RB - Ingram, Robinson, Sproles, rookie (Hill? Seastrunk?)
FB - Collins
WR - Colston, Stills, Toon, Emmanuel Sanders
TE - Graham, Watson, Hill
OL - Armstead, Grubbs, Lelito, Evans, Strief (Harris, Jones, rookie)
DL - Jordan, Hicks, Bunkley, Jenkins, Foster, Walker, rookie
OLB - Galette, Butler, Haralson, Rufus
ILB - Lofton, Hawthorne, Humber, Reddick
CB - Lewis, Robinson, White, Sweeting, Cassius Vaughn
S - Vaccaro, Bush, Jenkins, rookie

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i like that list.. wouldn't mind seeing some weapons on there. Perhaps Danario Alexander or Andre Roberts