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jeanpierre 03-12-2014 10:53 AM

Re: Free agents 2014
 
Update on the overview of the roster, with free agency and the draft upon us, this is where we are:

SAINTS PROJECTED DEPTH CHART - 2014

OFFENSE

QB (2) Drew Brees, Ryan Griffin

RB (4) Pierre Thomas, Darren Sproles, Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson, Travaris Cadet

FB (1) Jed Collins (RFA), Austin Johnson (FC)

WR (3) Marques Colston, Nick Toon, Charles Hawkins (FC)

LT (2) Terron Armstead, Marcel Jones (FC)

LG (2) Ben Grubbs, Senio Kelemete (FC)

C (1) Tim Lelito

RG (2) Jahri Evans

RT (2) Bryce Harris, Ty Nsekhe (FC)

TE (3) Jimmy Graham (Franchise, NE), Benjamin Watson, Josh Hill

WR (3) Kenny Stills, Andy Tanner (FC)


DEFENSE

DE (2) Akiem Hicks, Glenn Foster

NT (3) Brodrick Bunkley, John Jenkins

DE (2) Cameron Jordan, Tyrunn Walker

OLB (2) Junior Galette, Rufus Johnson

ILB (2) David Hawthorne

ILB (3) Curtis Lofton, Kevin Reddick

OLB (2) Victor Butler, Kyle Knox

CB (3) Patrick Robinson, Corey White, Terrence Frederick

SS (2) Kenny Vaccaro, Jordan Pugh

FS (2) Jarius Byrd, Rafael Bush (RFA)

CB (2) Keenan Lewis, Rod Sweeting, Trevin Wade (ERFA), Derrius Brooks (FC)


SPECIALISTS

K (1) Shayne Graham, Derek Dimke (FC)

P (1) Thomas Morstead

LS (1) Justin Drescher, Jed Collins

H Thomas Morstead

PR Darren Sproles, Travaris Cadet, Lance Moore

KR Darren Sproles, Travaris Cadet, Pierre Thomas

KO Thomas Morstead, Shayne Graham


KEY:

POS (#Likely Slots)

Projected Starter

Free Agent

Free Agent (RFA) {Restricted Free Agent}

Free Agent (ERFA) {Exclusive Rights Free Agent}

Free Agent (FC) {Futures Contract}

Vulnerable/Salary Cap Casualty


- Prior to FA acquisition of S Jarius Byrd, we have $1,943,157 of salary cap space

- Jimmy Graham has been tagged, not signed tender and hasn't filed grievance...

- The offensive line is without an experienced starting center, right tackle - guess the younger guys will surprise or we have other plans...

- Still real thin at Linebacker and curious how we get help there in FA...

- That secondary looks really good now with the Byrd signing - but still want to see the contract details...

- Now, is Patrick Robinson coming back healthy? Is he in the plans as a starter?


Source(s):

» Over the Cap- New Orleans Saints 2014 Salary Cap and Contracts

New Orleans Saints - NFL Team Contracts - Rotoworld.com

A look at the New Orleans Saints' 2014 roster decisions - ESPN

:bng:

jeanpierre 03-12-2014 10:57 AM

Re: Free agents 2014
 
Jairus Byrd contract details: Buffalo Bills couldn't match New Orleans Saints - Buffalo Rumblings

Some details starting to come to light...

lee909 03-12-2014 10:57 AM

Re: Free agents 2014
 
Well you can shed the red on Thomas

jeanpierre 03-12-2014 10:58 AM

Re: Free agents 2014
 
Pierre Thomas stays in New Orleans, agrees to new two-year deal | ProFootballTalk

PT stays on for two more years, hmm???

jeanpierre 03-12-2014 11:35 AM

Re: Free agents 2014
 
Jairus Byrd, Saints agree on six-year, $56M contract - NFL.com

NFL Presser

jeanpierre 03-14-2014 08:05 AM

Re: Free agents 2014
 
Source: Dallas Cowboys agree to terms with New Orleans Saints free agent OLB Will Herring on one-year contract | Dallas Morning News

Like I said, really thin at Linebacker; though, it would be a selling point to would be Undrafted Rookie Free Agents...

jeanpierre 03-14-2014 09:01 AM

Re: Free agents 2014
 
New Orleans Saints 2014 Free Agency Tracker | NOLA.com

Alot of MO committed to Byrd, but it just may be the move to make the secondary really special...

Really thin at Linebacker, and our starters in the middle are serviceable; Draft? Bullough? Van Noy? Attaochu?

Looks like the younger players will be getting their chance by necessity - that could be a good thing...

jeanpierre 03-14-2014 06:02 PM

Re: Free agents 2014
 
Update on the overview of the roster, with free agency, trades and the draft upon us, this is where we are:

SAINTS PROJECTED DEPTH CHART - 2014

OFFENSE

QB (2) Drew Brees, Ryan Griffin

RB (4) Pierre Thomas, Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson, Travaris Cadet:bng:

FB (1) Jed Collins (RFA), Austin Johnson (FC)

WR (3) Marques Colston, Nick Toon, Charles Hawkins (FC)

LT (2) Terron Armstead, Marcel Jones (FC)

LG (2) Ben Grubbs, Senio Kelemete (FC)

C (2) Tim Lelito

RG (2) Jahri Evans

RT (2) Bryce Harris, Ty Nsekhe (FC)

TE (3) Jimmy Graham (Franchise, NE), Benjamin Watson, Josh Hill

WR (2) Kenny Stills, Andy Tanner (FC)


DEFENSE

DE (2) Akiem Hicks, Glenn Foster

NT (3) Brodrick Bunkley, John Jenkins

DE (2) Cameron Jordan, Tyrunn Walker

OLB (2) Junior Galette, Rufus Johnson

ILB (3) David Hawthorne, Kevin Reddick

ILB (2) Curtis Lofton, Ramon Humber:bng:

OLB (2) Victor Butler, Kyle Knox

CB (3) Keenan Lewis, Rod Sweeting, Trevin Wade (ERFA), Derrius Brooks (FC)

SS (2) Kenny Vaccaro, Jordan Pugh

FS (2) Jarius Byrd, Rafael Bush (RFA):bng:

CB (2) Patrick Robinson, Corey White, Terrence Frederick


SPECIALISTS

K (1) Shayne Graham, Derek Dimke (FC)

P (1) Thomas Morstead

LS (1) Justin Drescher, Jed Collins

H Thomas Morstead

PR Travaris Cadet, Lance Moore

KR Travaris Cadet, Pierre Thomas

KO Thomas Morstead, Shayne Graham


KEY:

POS (#Likely Slots)

Projected Starter

Free Agent

Free Agent (RFA) {Restricted Free Agent}

Free Agent (ERFA) {Exclusive Rights Free Agent}

Free Agent (FC) {Futures Contract}

Vulnerable/Salary Cap Casualty


- Prior to FA acquisition of S Jarius Byrd, we have $1,943,157 of salary cap space

- Jimmy Graham has been tagged, not signed tender and hasn't filed grievance...

- The offensive line is without an experienced starting center, right tackle - guess the younger guys will surprise or we have other plans...

- Still real thin at Linebacker and curious how we get help there in FA - GREAT job re-signing Ramon Humber...

- That secondary looks really good now with the Byrd signing - but still want to see the contract details...

- Now, is Patrick Robinson coming back healthy? Is he in the plans as a starter?


Source(s):

» Over the Cap- New Orleans Saints 2014 Salary Cap and Contracts

New Orleans Saints - NFL Team Contracts - Rotoworld.com

A look at the New Orleans Saints' 2014 roster decisions - ESPN

:bng:

jeanpierre 03-15-2014 08:54 AM

Re: Free agents 2014
 
Raiders sign Tarell Brown | ProFootballTalk

Whew, was worried about an overpay...

jeanpierre 03-15-2014 08:55 AM

Re: Free agents 2014
 
Nicks deal shows how far he has fallen | ProFootballTalk

Wow, even we could've afforded Nicks...

jeanpierre 03-15-2014 08:58 AM

Re: Free agents 2014
 
Giants slated to meet with Rodgers-Cromartie after Jets | ProFootballTalk

Now, you add DRC to Team Saints - that's an amazing secondary...

ChrisXVI 03-15-2014 09:23 AM

Re: Free agents 2014
 
Boy the Panthers have been decimated so far this offseason. Unless every single draft pick of theirs is an instant starter at a position of need then they're screwed.

jeanpierre 03-15-2014 10:38 AM

Re: Free agents 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 583534)
Boy the Panthers have been decimated so far this offseason. Unless every single draft pick of theirs is an instant starter at a position of need then they're screwed.

But they sure have an amazing front seven on Defense...

K Major 03-15-2014 10:38 AM

Re: Free agents 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 583527)
Raiders sign Tarell Brown | ProFootballTalk

Whew, was worried about an overpay...

This is about the only thing Oakland has done right so far in Free Agency. They are getting a solid corner.

K Major 03-15-2014 10:40 AM

Re: Free agents 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 583534)
Boy the Panthers have been decimated so far this offseason. Unless every single draft pick of theirs is an instant starter at a position of need then they're screwed.

Potential landing spot for Lance Moore?

ChrisXVI 03-15-2014 02:20 PM

Re: Free agents 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 583544)
Potential landing spot for Lance Moore?


Certainly... At this point that's the best they could do in acquiring a new #1 WR. I know there are a couple of better WR's still available but Carolina seems content to rely on their defensive front 7 to win them games instead of fielding an actual offense.

hagan714 03-16-2014 12:28 AM

Re: Free agents 2014
 
Lance Moore a #1?

alleycat_126 03-16-2014 10:00 AM

Re: Free agents 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 583642)
Lance Moore a #1?

LOL.... Now, Now Hagan...... We don't know that he can't be a number 1, we never tried him there.... BTW they got Roman Harper on they back end at SS so they should be fine :rofl:

jeanpierre 03-16-2014 11:46 AM

Re: Free agents 2014
 
Just like we like it - stealth, under the radar, targets will be left saying Whiskey-Tango-Foxtrot...

Best free-agent signings so far - NFL.com

lee909 03-17-2014 06:57 AM

Re: Free agents 2014
 
Lance Moore visiting the Steelers.

Allen visiting Cowboys

jeanpierre 03-17-2014 07:13 AM

Re: Free agents 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 583791)
Lance Moore visiting the Steelers.

Allen visiting Cowboys


Lance Moore scheduled to visit Steelers | ProFootballTalk

Lance Moore will do well there as they have no one that can run disciplined routes...

jeanpierre 03-17-2014 07:17 AM

Re: Free agents 2014
 
NFC South free-agency update | ProFootballTalk

jeanpierre 03-17-2014 07:27 AM

Re: Free agents 2014
 
Sproles’ new deal matches top of veteran market | ProFootballTalk

Oh, for those of you feeling sorry for Sproles, don't worry - he and his wife got paid...

Darren, you've been a shining star and we look forward to Darren Sproles Day at a Saints game in a couple of years...

TheOak 03-17-2014 07:33 AM

Free agents 2014
 
In regards to Lance Moore..... Teams do not make a player a #1WR. The player earns it. He becomes it.


Exactly what is the assumption? The entire Saints organization (Sean Payton/ Loomis) is so inept they had a WR1 under their nose and never saw it?

I suppose he could be a C, RB1, or a QB.

jeanpierre 03-17-2014 08:12 AM

Re: Free agents 2014
 
http://www.sportsnola.com/sports/sai...oney-work.html

Really good commentary from Brian Allee-Walsh...

K Major 03-17-2014 08:16 AM

Re: Free agents 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 583792)

Lance Moore scheduled to visit Steelers | ProFootballTalk

Lance Moore will do well there as they have no one that can run disciplined routes...

Potentially a good landing spot. Especially now with the exit of E Sanders.

jeanpierre 03-17-2014 11:54 AM

Re: Free agents 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 583801)
Potentially a good landing spot. Especially now with the exit of E Sanders.

It was time, with the emergence of Kenny Stills; but Lance had a great attitude and was a fine leader for this team in that way by showing that the game was fun, even if the shuffling bothered some fans...

brees84 03-17-2014 04:30 PM

Re: Free agents 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 583529)
Giants slated to meet with Rodgers-Cromartie after Jets | ProFootballTalk

Now, you add DRC to Team Saints - that's an amazing secondary...

Giants are giving CB Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie a 5-year, $39M deal, including $15M gtd

K Major 03-17-2014 04:35 PM

Re: Free agents 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 583971)
Giants are giving CB Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie a 5-year, $39M deal, including $15M gtd

Is this guy worth that kind of deal & guaranteed money?

CheramieIII 03-17-2014 04:37 PM

Re: Free agents 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 583974)
Is this guy worth that kind of deal & guaranteed money?

No, I thought he was just an average guy at best

brees84 03-17-2014 04:45 PM

Re: Free agents 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 583974)
Is this guy worth that kind of deal & guaranteed money?

I don't think so. Verner to Tampa is much better deal.

Jets and Antonio Cromartie reunion is next. Pay the man (after you cut him) lol

lee909 03-17-2014 04:59 PM

Re: Free agents 2014
 
CONTRACT:
5 yr(s) / $25,550,000
SIGNING BONUS $6,000,000
AVERAGE SALARY $5,110,000
GUARANTEED:$10,500,000

That is what you call a deal for a number 1 CB

jeanpierre 03-17-2014 08:54 PM

Re: Free agents 2014
 
PFF offers this pictograph comparing the performance, production of Malcolm Jenkins v. Jarius Byrd...


http://blackandgold.com/u/5271-albums105-picture781.png

K Major 03-17-2014 09:14 PM

Re: Free agents 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 584028)
PFF offers this pictograph comparing the performance, production of Malcolm Jenkins v. Jarius Byrd...

https://twitter.com/PFF/status/445603796811399169

http://blackandgold.com/u/5271-albums105-picture781.png

I'd say money well spent on the Byrd man.

hagan714 03-17-2014 09:43 PM

Re: Free agents 2014
 
i agree this is an upgrade but i am going to stress Byrd is coming from a Division that had revolving doors at QB in all the teams locker rooms except New England. The mistakes or bad throws will not be as many so the INT's will be a bit harder to get.

|Mitch| 03-17-2014 09:47 PM

Re: Free agents 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 584039)
i agree this is an upgrade but i am going to stress Byrd is coming from a Division that had revolving doors at QB in all the teams locker rooms except New England. The mistakes or bad throws will not be as many so the INT's will be a bit harder to get.

Be interesting to see how he handles it, but he did play pretty well against Drew last year

jeanpierre 03-18-2014 05:44 AM

Re: Free agents 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 584039)
i agree this is an upgrade but i am going to stress Byrd is coming from a Division that had revolving doors at QB in all the teams locker rooms except New England. The mistakes or bad throws will not be as many so the INT's will be a bit harder to get.

Falcons' Matt Ryan, Panthers' Sham Newton, Tampa Bay's Player to be Announced - I like his chances...

My concern is the numbers - but on paper, it's looking pretty darn good...

hagan714 03-18-2014 05:58 AM

Re: Free agents 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 584069)
Falcons' Matt Ryan, Panthers' Sham Newton, Tampa Bay's Player to be Announced - I like his chances...

My concern is the numbers - but on paper, it's looking pretty darn good...


I love his game. read diagnoses with the best of them

just saying you have to have solid CB play and the biggest thing is a pass rush up the middle. something we lack

pats did every thing they could to get speed one on one against byrd. go after him deep is a safer bet than in front of him.

i am expecting the INT to drop a bit and him to get burnt a bit more in this division.

but in the end we will all be happy with the signing.

i think?

i hope?

he is an upgrade :bng:

jeanpierre 03-18-2014 07:15 AM

Re: Free agents 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 584070)
I love his game. read diagnoses with the best of them

just saying you have to have solid CB play and the biggest thing is a pass rush up the middle. something we lack

pats did every thing they could to get speed one on one against byrd. go after him deep is a safer bet than in front of him.

i am expecting the INT to drop a bit and him to get burnt a bit more in this division.

but in the end we will all be happy with the signing.

i think?

i hope?

he is an upgrade :bng:

Definitely an upgrade; definitely the biggest splash in Free Agency this year even if the GroupThinkTalkingHeadCollective doesn't give the Saints and Loomis their due...

Am really excited to move on from the disaster that was

I am often critical of Loomis; and while I question the numbers committed, also realize it took those to get him to take the cap allowable number this season to get him here (pay to play)...

The Strief signing seemed an inevitable, safe move; would've preferred a younger, faster right tackle, but it is what it is...

saintsfan1976 03-18-2014 08:01 AM

Re: Free agents 2014
 
We don't need a younger, faster RT just a healthy Strief.

Besides, Graham's contract will need to be finalized before we have enough sweet moolah to start signing rookies!

Does that mean our UDFA class will be smaller??


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