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Schmohams 03-01-2014 06:37 PM
Re: Free agents 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 579594)
2. Have you ever heard of a team picking up a player on the non-exclusive? I can't find any evidence of it.
Curtis Martin was traded for two first rounders.

jeanpierre 03-01-2014 11:28 PM
Re: Free agents 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Schmohams (Post 580214)
Curtis Martin was traded for two first rounders.

Actually compensation was awarded in the form of a first and third round pick as compensation for the restricted free agent...

TheOak 03-02-2014 04:38 AM
Re: Free agents 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Schmohams (Post 580214)
Curtis Martin was traded for two first rounders.
You say that with stern conviction as if it actually happened. It was a 1st and a 3rd, there was no Franchise Tag involved, not was there 12m dollars a year involved.

Apples to walnuts

jeanpierre 03-02-2014 10:21 AM
Re: Free agents 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Schmohams (Post 580214)
Curtis Martin was traded for two first rounders.
But your point is well made Schmohams, Martin was a Restricted Free Agent and a was a prized Free Agent...

Teams WILL spend picks for a player that is a triple impact threat - Wins, Gate, Television...

Graham going to a team like Miami would be huge for them- College Hometown Hero Returns to Resurrect Storied Franchise...

And we've got a good trade history with them as well; more recently, Ricky Williams, Reggie Bush...

jeanpierre 03-02-2014 12:59 PM
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Free agency primer: Top 10 linebackers - NFL.com

jeanpierre 03-03-2014 12:35 PM
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Jairus Byrd unhappy with Bills’ lucrative offer | Q

Not many teams can afford a 10+ million dollar safety...

jeanpierre 03-03-2014 12:55 PM
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Business season primer: Focus on benchmark deals, Graham situation - CBSSports.com

Benchmark deals

Deals consummated right before the start of free agency can have a major impact on free agents...

...The deal center Jason Kelce got from the Eagles (6 years, $37.5 million with $13M guaranteed) represents the opening bid for Browns center Alex Mack, if he's set free, and it should effect Evan Dietrich-Smith as well as Brian DeLaPuente.

brees84 03-03-2014 02:27 PM
Re: Free agents 2014
 
Grimes signed 4 year deal with Dolphins. 32 mil. I guess Verner becomes 10mil a year man.

brees84 03-03-2014 03:07 PM
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Browns use transition tag on center Alex Mack. 10 mil.
The franchise tag would have cost $11.6 million. No compensation if he leaves. I think he stays with Browns.

K Major 03-03-2014 05:42 PM
Re: Free agents 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 580429)
Jairus Byrd unhappy with Bills’ lucrative offer | Q

Not many teams can afford a 10+ million dollar safety...
Ok, I have officially scratched Bryd off my FA list. 10 million +.. YIKES!

K Major 03-03-2014 05:50 PM
Re: Free agents 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 580332)
I wouldn't mind kicking the tires on Karlos Dansby or Jason Worilds.

brees84 03-03-2014 06:34 PM
Re: Free agents 2014
 
The Steelers have placed the transition tag on Worilds.

jeanpierre 03-03-2014 10:28 PM
Re: Free agents 2014
 
Browns have placed Transition Tag on Mack - he's off the table at 10+ mil...

jeanpierre 03-03-2014 10:41 PM
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2014 NFL franchise tag tracker: Jimmy Graham, Greg Hardy hit with tag | Audibles - SI.com

hagan714 03-04-2014 10:27 AM
Re: Free agents 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 580505)
Browns have placed Transition Tag on Mack - he's off the table at 10+ mil...
I am betting that by the end of round 1 the browns might have one of the best OL built this off season. round 2 maybe QB. round 3 for sure if they have not made a move at QB

LT Joe Thomas
LG Xavier Su'a-Filo 1B
OC Alex Mac
RG Mitchell Schwartz ????????
RT Greg Robinson 1A

WR Allen Robinson 2 ???? trade back and grab a RB?

QB A.J. McCarron 3

getting some insite from a buddy that were a brownies outfit on sunday. new coach new scheme and OL is the big talk

jeanpierre 03-04-2014 04:18 PM
Re: Free agents 2014
 
Free Agent Targets:

1). RT Austin Howard, NY Jets 26 Yrs

2). S Rafael Bush, New Orleans RFA 27 yrs

3). C Evan Dietrich-Smith, Green Bay 27 yrs

4). OLB Robert Ayers, Denver 28 yrs

5). RB Chris Johnson, Tennessee 28 yrs (Anticipated FA*)

ChrisXVI 03-04-2014 08:20 PM
Free agents 2014
 
Starting to wonder if we should just bring back Goodwin on a 1 year deal to play center and let him retire a Saint. That douche Prisco suggested it in his new article about one FA every team should target and I don't hate the idea. It would just be a stop-gap solution but it would beat trusting some rookie to start or shelling out the big bucks for DLP.

jeanpierre 03-04-2014 10:27 PM
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Cowboys tell Ware they want to keep him, but not at his current contract | ProFootballTalk

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Florio, ProFootballTalk.com
...Per a league source, the Cowboys have advised Ware that they definitely want to keep Ware, but not at his current salary of $12.25 million and cap number of $16 million...

...Ware could indeed be cut — as owner/G.M. Jerry Jones publicly suggested last month.

So stay tuned, teams with 3-4 defenses (cough . . . Saints . . . cough). DeMarcus Ware could soon be available.
Demarcus Ware?!? To The Saints?!? Hmmm...

Saintaintso 03-04-2014 10:36 PM
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Drop PT , Sproles and Cadet for CJ2k ... Playing for a contender changes things he's already gotten paid ...

Jack Vegas 03-04-2014 11:01 PM
Re: Free agents 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 580658)
Starting to wonder if we should just bring back Goodwin on a 1 year deal to play center and let him retire a Saint. That douche Prisco suggested it in his new article about one FA every team should target and I don't hate the idea. It would just be a stop-gap solution but it would beat trusting some rookie to start or shelling out the big bucks for DLP.
Goodwin is finished. 49ers fans couldn't wait to get rid of him.

brees84 03-05-2014 11:39 AM
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Forget about Talib. He wants top-of-the-market deal. Miami ruined market with Grimes deal.

bepardini 03-05-2014 12:23 PM
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I saw that CB Brandon Browner is gonna be able to play next season. He would a very interesting guy to pair up with Keenan Lewis. I also like CB Walter Thurmond.

I know the Saints probably will not do it, but would be fantastic if we trade up for getting FS Calvin Pryor. We would have four guys that are pro-bowl caliber in our secondary, not bad at all. Rob Ryan would blitz on every single snap.

Seer1 03-05-2014 01:01 PM
Re: Free agents 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 580575)
I am betting that by the end of round 1 the browns might have one of the best OL built this off season. round 2 maybe QB. round 3 for sure if they have not made a move at QB

LT Joe Thomas
LG Xavier Su'a-Filo 1B
OC Alex Mac
RG Mitchell Schwartz ????????
RT Greg Robinson 1A

WR Allen Robinson 2 ???? trade back and grab a RB?

QB A.J. McCarron 3

getting some insite from a buddy that were a brownies outfit on sunday. new coach new scheme and OL is the big talk
I don't know Hagan. If they don't spend a pick on a big name QB, that owner won't have to worry about the feds. The Dawg Pound'll take him swimming in Lake Erie.

Of course they do have enough picks to do both.

SaintLeonard 03-05-2014 03:15 PM
Re: Free agents 2014
 
Cortland Finnegan released from STL

|Mitch| 03-05-2014 04:07 PM
Re: Free agents 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SaintLeonard (Post 580754)
Cortland Finnegan released from STL
I'm not a fan of Finnegan, he's a punk... Even worse than Shoddy White or Steve Smith I think

hagan714 03-05-2014 05:26 PM
Re: Free agents 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 580731)
I don't know Hagan. If they don't spend a pick on a big name QB, that owner won't have to worry about the feds. The Dawg Pound'll take him swimming in Lake Erie.

Of course they do have enough picks to do both.
AJ is not a big enough name?
i have a feeling the media hype on round 1 QB is just that hype.

Ok best QB at the top of round 2 then.

TheOak 03-05-2014 06:26 PM
Re: Free agents 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 580758)
I'm not a fan of Finnegan, he's a punk... Even worse than Shoddy White or Steve Smith I think

He and Grimes can both board the same boat.

K Major 03-05-2014 06:36 PM
Re: Free agents 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 580665)
Even with his most recent history of injuries and age, he is still a BEAST. A definite threat coming off the edge. Cam, Junior and Ware.. could you imagine the fear of opposing QB's? Would love to see him in black and gold.

K Major 03-05-2014 06:39 PM
Re: Free agents 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SaintLeonard (Post 580754)
Cortland Finnegan released from STL
Good player but all I can remember as of late was that beat down he took from Andre Johnson.

jeanpierre 03-05-2014 08:01 PM
Re: Free agents 2014
 
Cortland Finnegan would give a nastiness to our secondary...

Saintaintso 03-05-2014 10:18 PM
Re: Free agents 2014
 
Seriously doubt steve smith being a punk ... He's bout that action boss !!

Ask yourself this , if we had smith against Seattle , does our offense still get shut out for 3 & 1/2 quarters ?

Nah , he refuses to be covered , a punk is someone that gets tossed around by a guy half his size for 4 quarters in a playoff game and then raises hell about why he should be paid more ..

Realistically , Jimmy's no punk but I hate that he doesn't stand up for himself.

You'd never have fire being a question with smith , we can't just " class " our way past Seattle y'all

SaintLeonard 03-06-2014 12:07 AM
Re: Free agents 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 580758)
I'm not a fan of Finnegan, he's a punk... Even worse than Shoddy White or Steve Smith I think
Oh, don't get me wrong. I totally agree with you. :lol: I'm just thought I'd pass along an update I came across.

K Major 03-06-2014 08:15 AM
Re: Free agents 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 580789)
Cortland Finnegan would give a nastiness to our secondary...
Agreed ... we need a few more players with a chip on their shoulders to become dominate on D. Not saying I would necessarily want Cortland, but I like his game, attitude & no fear mentality.

TheOak 03-06-2014 09:05 AM
Re: Free agents 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saintaintso (Post 580799)
Seriously doubt steve smith being a punk ... He's bout that action boss !!

Ask yourself this , if we had smith against Seattle , does our offense still get shut out for 3 & 1/2 quarters ?

Nah , he refuses to be covered , a punk is someone that gets tossed around by a guy half his size for 4 quarters in a playoff game and then raises hell about why he should be paid more ..

Realistically , Jimmy's no punk but I hate that he doesn't stand up for himself.

You'd never have fire being a question with smith , we can't just " class " our way past Seattle y'all
We didnt do a bad job of containing him last year and his production for Car has dropped off . Colston out produced Smith in all areas in 2013 while starting in fewer games.

Danno 03-06-2014 06:56 PM
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bump

Saintaintso 03-06-2014 07:07 PM
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Who's throwing the ball to him ? Thank You , Drew would literally make him Look 10 Years younger

jeanpierre 03-06-2014 07:21 PM
Re: Free agents 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saintaintso (Post 580957)
Who's throwing the ball to him ? Thank You , Drew would literally make him Look 10 Years younger
So he'd look as young as he acts?!?

Sorry Saint'so, I'd Pass...

K Major 03-08-2014 08:25 AM
Re: Free agents 2014
 
Let me throw another FA out at you.... 49ers cornerback Tarell Brown?

jeanpierre 03-08-2014 08:37 AM
Re: Free agents 2014
 
Darren Sproles' likely release leaves Jimmy Graham 'shocked and disappointed' | Audibles - SI.com


"Even considering those factors plus Sproles’ nonexistence in the run game, the Saints’ decision comes as a bit of a surprise. His fate may have been tied to that of Thomas, who now may be too irreplaceable to lose, despite the cap savings of nearly $3 million he could bring. Thomas was a reliable receiver out of the backfield last season and led the Saints in rushing — that dual-threat ability might have been what propelled him ahead of the one-dimensional Sproles on the pecking order."

TheOak 03-08-2014 09:12 AM
Re: Free agents 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saintaintso (Post 580957)
Who's throwing the ball to him ? Thank You , Drew would literally make him Look 10 Years younger

So your interpreting Steve Smith as a system guy and the QB is what makes him as good as you think he is?

BTW who was throwing to him in 2011 and 2012 when he had over 1100 yards each season?

I can't see any other way to read your logic when you put his performance on who is throwing him the ball.

Good/Great receivers catch passes despite who throws them, not because of who throws them.


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