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C (2) Tim Lelito scares the hell out of me. last year he looked better at OG than OC and even then that was not saying much.
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I've been busy with a new job and life in general... but I've been lurking around the whole time and I've now recently tried to become more active on the boards again. :bng: I was very happy that TJ signed with the Vikes, since as you know... that is my second favorite team in the NFL. I think that he'll probably fit in better there than he did here with RR., but who knows with all the changes their defensive front is going through this offseason and the overall changing of the guard..? |
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Cap move left with no carry over in 2015
Patrick Robinson Cap $2,804,333 Dead $1,446,834 Savings $1,357,500 Mark Ingram Cap $2,359,875 Dead $973,500 Savings $1,386,375 Victor Butler Cap $1,875,000 Cap $375,000 Savings $1,500,000 there aint much in the way of big bucks to do much. so draft baby draft |
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Did anyone catch Sean Fazende and Fred Hickman on BensonTV (New Orleans Fox8) last night?!?
We may not have seen the last of DLP as the market hasn't developed the way he and his agent may have hoped... Saints aren't going to break the bank, so he may have to go with the known rather than venture out and be gone after a year... Only other FA we may sign is WR Sidney Rice if he's healthy and willing to take a "Prove It" contract... |
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Saints agree with safety Marcus Ball | ProFootballTalk
Other than Center, the Saints, yet again, have pulled their draft hand very close in with the Free Agent signings... |
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yep looks like the depth chart will some solid challengers this year.
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Most holes filled pre draft yet again by Loomis. A new C and some depth at guard and it leaves the team nicely placed going ito the draft
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Titans sign Eric Olsen | ProFootballTalk
Thought he played well for us - wish we could have brought him back... Guess Payton & Co. saw an opportunity to get better... |
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Update on 2014 roster, with free agency, trades and the draft upon us, this is where we are:
SAINTS PROJECTED DEPTH CHART - 2014 OFFENSE QB (2) Drew Brees, Ryan Griffin, Luke McCown RB (4) Pierre Thomas, Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson, Travaris Cadet FB (1) Erik Lorig, Austin Johnson (FC) WR (3) Marques Colston, Nick Toon, Charles Hawkins (FC) LT (2) Terron Armstead, Marcel Jones (FC) LG (2) Ben Grubbs, Senio Kelemete (FC) C (2) Tim Lelito RG (2) Jahri Evans RT (2) Zach Strief, Bryce Harris, Ty Nsekhe (FC) TE (3) Jimmy Graham (Franchise, NE), Benjamin Watson, Josh Hill WR (2) Kenny Stills, Andy Tanner (FC), Joe Morgan DEFENSE DE (2) Akiem Hicks, Glenn Foster NT (3) Brodrick Bunkley, John Jenkins DE (2) Cameron Jordan, Tyrunn Walker OLB (2) Junior Galette, Keyunta Dawson, Rufus Johnson ILB (3) David Hawthorne, Kevin Reddick ILB (2) Curtis Lofton, Ramon Humber OLB (2) Parys Haralson, Victor Butler, Kyle Knox CB (3) Keenan Lewis, Rod Sweeting, Trevin Wade (ERFA), Derrius Brooks (FC) SS (2) Kenny Vaccaro, Marcus Ball, Jordan Pugh FS (2) Jarius Byrd, Rafael Bush (RFA) CB (2) Patrick Robinson, Corey White, Terrence Frederick SPECIALISTS K (1) Shayne Graham, Derek Dimke (FC) P (1) Thomas Morstead LS (1) Justin Drescher, Jed Collins H Thomas Morstead PR Travaris Cadet, Lance Moore KR Travaris Cadet, Pierre Thomas KO Thomas Morstead, Shayne Graham KEY: POS (#Likely Slots) Projected Starter Free Agent Free Agent (RFA) {Restricted Free Agent} Free Agent (ERFA) {Exclusive Rights Free Agent} Free Agent (FC) {Futures Contract} Franchise Tagged/Restricted Observations All this draft speculation of Saints needing a cornerback in the first yet when looking at the roster - we still need hard-hitting, playmaking linebackers!!! Contracts as they are with Running Back, we'll only have Thomas, Robinson under contract after this season... Damn thin on that offensive line... Roll the dice and see if Patrick Robinson can blossom under Ryan... Sure would like to bring Meachem back in the role, contract we had this past season... Wonder if we can snag a good role player in the latter waves of Free Agency... Source(s): Over the Cap - New Orleans Saints 2014 Salary Cap and Contracts New Orleans Saints - NFL Team Contracts - Rotoworld.com A look at the New Orleans Saints' 2014 roster decisions - ESPN New Orleans Saints 2014 Free Agency Tracker | NOLA.com |
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Packers prefer compensatory picks over unrestricted free agents | ProFootballTalk
So teams are rewarded by not spending money on their free agents?!? I can see if a team lost in a bidding battle, but to arbitrarily wait for high round draft picks?!? |
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For whatever reasons, he hasn't been able to traslate it to the field; absolute sin to have that talent and not be able to actuate it... Got a feeling that DLP is coming to the painful recognition that he reached his apogee by being a Center for the Saints and will have to take what the market dictates... Then again, nobody took Coach Payton serious when he said he wasn't worried about Center and we already had the guy we needed on staff when we cut Kreutz... |
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Update on 2014 roster, with free agency, trades and the draft upon us, this is where we are:
SAINTS PROJECTED DEPTH CHART - 2014 OFFENSE QB (2) Drew Brees, Ryan Griffin, Luke McCown RB (4) Pierre Thomas, Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson, Travaris Cadet FB (1) Erik Lorig, Austin Johnson (FC) WR (3) Marques Colston, Nick Toon, Charles Hawkins (FC) LT (2) Terron Armstead, Marcel Jones (FC) LG (2) Ben Grubbs, Senio Kelemete (FC) C (2) Tim Lelito RG (2) Jahri Evans RT (2) Zach Strief, Bryce Harris, Ty Nsekhe (FC) TE (3) Jimmy Graham (Franchise, NE), Benjamin Watson, Josh Hill WR (2) Kenny Stills, Andy Tanner (FC), Joe Morgan DEFENSE DE (2) Akiem Hicks, Glenn Foster NT (3) Brodrick Bunkley, John Jenkins DE (2) Cameron Jordan, Tyrunn Walker OLB (2) Junior Galette, Keyunta Dawson, Rufus Johnson ILB (3) David Hawthorne, Kevin Reddick ILB (2) Curtis Lofton, Ramon Humber OLB (2) Parys Haralson, Victor Butler, Kyle Knox CB (3) Keenan Lewis, Rod Sweeting, Trevin Wade (ERFA), Derrius Brooks (FC) SS (2) Kenny Vaccaro, Marcus Ball FS (2) Jarius Byrd, Rafael Bush (RFA), Jordan Pugh CB (2) Champ Bailey, Patrick Robinson, Corey White, Terrence Frederick SPECIALISTS K (1) Shayne Graham, Derek Dimke (FC) P (1) Thomas Morstead LS (1) Justin Drescher, Jed Collins H Thomas Morstead PR Travaris Cadet, Lance Moore KR Travaris Cadet, Pierre Thomas KO Thomas Morstead, Shayne Graham KEY: POS (#Likely Slots) Projected Starter Free Agent Free Agent (RFA) {Restricted Free Agent} Free Agent (ERFA) {Exclusive Rights Free Agent} Free Agent (FC) {Futures Contract} Franchise Tagged/Restricted - Unsigned Observations: Jimmy won't sign till he's ready to come to camp, so no OTA's - hope we don't see some sloppy play as he returns and a possible injury with lack of conditioning... Well, how do you like us now?!? Running Backs Thomas, Robinson are only backs under contract after this coming season... Still real thin on that offensive line... Great depth at cornerback; little thin at Safety though White could be shifted there... Bailey signing may mean we withdraw matching on Rafael Bush... Sure would like to bring Meachem back in a supporting role like this past season... Other than OLine, we've about got things reloaded... Source(s): Over the Cap - New Orleans Saints 2014 Salary Cap and Contracts New Orleans Saints - NFL Team Contracts - Rotoworld.com A look at the New Orleans Saints' 2014 roster decisions - ESPN New Orleans Saints 2014 Free Agency Tracker | NOLA.com |
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I really like the way the roster is shaping up.
A little bit of concern in terms of depth along the offensive line and the glaring issue at centre. The other issue is the receivers,outside of Colston and possibly Stills its question marks on both Morgan and Toon.Hopefully at least one of them can step up and fill a void. Leaves the front office in a good position to be aggressive to go after the best players in the draft without having to worry about many holes to fill. |
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Plus, we keep signing players like there's no salary cap - expect a Sidney Rice signing... Payton is sleeping at night, so he must like what he has on the roster to play Centre... Unlike last season when he uncharacteristically said he was having restless, sleepless nights over Left Tackle, Charles Brown... |
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Updated 2014 roster, accounting for free agency, trades and the draft, nearly upon us:
SAINTS PROJECTED DEPTH CHART - 2014 OFFENSE QB (2) Drew Brees, Ryan Griffin, Luke McCown RB (4) Pierre Thomas, Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson, Travaris Cadet FB (1) Erik Lorig, Austin Johnson (FC) WR (3) Marques Colston, Nick Toon, Charles Hawkins (FC) LT (2) Terron Armstead, Marcel Jones (FC) LG (2) Ben Grubbs, Senio Kelemete (FC) C (2) Tim Lelito RG (2) Jahri Evans RT (2) Zach Strief, Bryce Harris, Ty Nsekhe (FC) TE (3) Jimmy Graham (Franchise, NE), Benjamin Watson, Josh Hill WR (2) Kenny Stills, Andy Tanner (FC), Joe Morgan DEFENSE DE (2) Akiem Hicks, Glenn Foster NT (3) Brodrick Bunkley, John Jenkins DE (2) Cameron Jordan, Tyrunn Walker OLB (2) Junior Galette, Keyunta Dawson, Rufus Johnson ILB (3) David Hawthorne, Kevin Reddick ILB (2) Curtis Lofton, Ramon Humber OLB (2) Parys Haralson, Victor Butler, Kyle Knox CB (3) Keenan Lewis, Rod Sweeting, Trevin Wade (ERFA), Derrius Brooks (FC) SS (2) Kenny Vaccaro, Marcus Ball FS (2) Jarius Byrd, Rafael Bush (RFA), Jordan Pugh CB (2) Champ Bailey, Patrick Robinson, Corey White, Terrence Frederick SPECIALISTS K (1) Shayne Graham, Derek Dimke (FC) P (1) Thomas Morstead LS (1) Justin Drescher, Jed Collins H Thomas Morstead PR Travaris Cadet, Lance Moore KR Travaris Cadet, Pierre Thomas KO Thomas Morstead, Shayne Graham KEY: POS (#Likely Slots) Projected Starter Free Agent Free Agent (RFA) {Restricted Free Agent} Free Agent (ERFA) {Exclusive Rights Free Agent} Free Agent (FC) {Futures Contract} Franchise Tagged/Restricted - Unsigned Observations: Jimmy won't sign till he's ready to come to camp, so no OTA's - hope we don't see some sloppy play as he returns and a possible injury with lack of conditioning... Well, how do you like us now?!? Running Backs Thomas, Robinson are only backs under contract after this coming season... Still real thin on that offensive line... Great depth at cornerback; little thin at Safety though White could be shifted there... Bailey signing may mean we withdraw matching on Rafael Bush... Sure would like to bring Meachem back in a supporting role like this past season... Other than OLine, we've about got things reloaded... Source(s): Over the Cap - New Orleans Saints 2014 Salary Cap and Contracts New Orleans Saints - NFL Team Contracts - Rotoworld.com A look at the New Orleans Saints' 2014 roster decisions - ESPN New Orleans Saints 2014 Free Agency Tracker | NOLA.com |
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Surprised no one has asked the Saints if they'd be interested in RB Chris Johnson...
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I visited this thread just to mention Chris Johnson. The market on running backs has just about dried up. Wonder if we could sneak in and get him on the cheap. Restructuring a few contracts or even cutting somebody like Bunkley would give you just enough to get him something in the 3.5 million/year range which might be enough.
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Cutting Bunkley would leave us short with NT and only saves $1.3ml.
It was cost at least half of that to bring in another NT |
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Just a thought, I actually like Bunkley a lot and wouldn't particularly love to see him gone. But that kind of speed on offense is tempting. I'm not talking about Darren Sproles shifty quickness, but actual gamebreaking straight line speed. We don't have much of that on offense these days, except for maybe Stills. In our offense Chris Johnson would be a nightmare for defenses. |
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I hope we find a way to keep and/or restructure Bunkley's contract. The two man rotation with him and Jenkins worked out well last season.
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Rafael Bush deal in...New Orleans Saints $3.6 million under cap
The New Orleans Saints are now $3.6 million under the salary cap, according to the NFL Players Association, after their latest flurry of moves. Their new two-year deal for safety Rafael Bush was officially processed on Thursday... - Mike Triplett, ESPN Over the Cap - New Orleans Saints 2014 Salary Cap OverTheCap.com has the New Orleans Saints with estimated cap space of $3,313,116... Spotrac - - New Orleans Saints 2014 Salary Cap Spotrac.com is showing $4,787,782 of available cap space... |
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And expect the cap space to adjust again, post draft, and when terms will be finalized on the Jimmy Graham contract...
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Saints bring former center Jonathan Goodwin in for visit | ProFootballTalk
Nice insurance policy for Lelito; it'll be interesting to see if he signs for enough money to come in on time or sit out OTA's until Training Camp and then work less for a bit more if it's not working out... Still have a feeling that Lelito is the guy... |
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Too much WR talent in the draft this year to even.... Who was it we were talking about?
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2014 NFL Football Free Agents - CBSSports.com Free Agent Tracker
Some intriguing free agents still available: QB Kevin Kolb WR Miles Austin WR Robert Meachem RB Michael Bush C Kyle Cook C Jonathan Goodwin LB Anthony Spencer CB Jabari Greer CB Terrell Thomas S Steve Gregory |
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Austin has "hamstring injury" written all over him. With Rice at least you know he is on IR. With Austin you get 10+ game time decisions. No production whatsoever. If Earl Bennet would play for vet min than that's my guy (refused pay cut so highly unlikely).
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It seems like he was making me bite my dog, cat, sofa cushions, whatever the way he was catchin' **** when he was healthy. I just don't remember him being healthy for a while.
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