Jimmy Graham Contract

jeanpierre · 02-22-2014, 05:06 PM

Regarding this debate that the media is driving about WR vs TE, which I find humorous as the "media" just selected him as a First Team All-Pro Tight End, why is there no one to question these reports under light of day if that this fabricated discussion is somehow a quid pro quo with the player's agent(s) who are often source(s) for stories?!?

TheOak · 02-23-2014, 05:29 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Regarding this debate that the media is driving about WR vs TE, which I find humorous as the "media" just selected him as a First Team All-Pro Tight End, why is there no one to question these reports under light of day if that this fabricated discussion is somehow a quid pro quo with the player's agent(s) who are often source(s) for stories?!?

Because 80% of them are hacks and reputable journalists wouldn't give 5 seconds to read their work. The other 20% are not journalists but rather entertainment columnists and the stories do what is intended, generate website traffic in the offseason.

Nearly all articles or columns about he NFL are opinion pieces that are written as though they were factual news; utilizing "is" instead of "possibly", "probably", or "arguably".

jeanpierre · 02-23-2014, 02:38 PM

For me, the issue comes back to integrity and credibility...

A writer/columnist's personal integrity and credibility has to be there for me to have some respect for what I'm reading, even if it's sporting news...

hagan714 · 02-23-2014, 11:33 PM

funny thing is the guidelines were all set in the collective bargaining agreement the nfl and the union have just agreed on. writers are writers and need to sell there rags. the real fun is to get in the room when the nfl and the players rep are arguing the 5 sets jimmy ran that will make the 4 million dollar difference. that would be fun to watch.

TheOak · 02-24-2014, 07:13 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

For me, the issue comes back to integrity and credibility...

A writer/columnist's personal integrity and credibility has to be there for me to have some respect for what I'm reading, even if it's sporting news...

Put your self in a sports writers shoes in the off season. I am not defending their blatant fabrication but what do they actually have to go on, especially if they are college grads with a journalism degree and never played the game.

Its off season, so there are no stats, games, or scores to talk about. Coaches and GMs are not out there telling you what and how they will draft. No one is saying peep about who they are looking to get or give up for FA.

All you can do is speculate or find another job.

jeanpierre · 02-24-2014, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Put your self in a sports writers shoes in the off season. I am not defending their blatant fabrication but what do they actually have to go on, especially if they are college grads with a journalism degree and never played the game.

Its off season, so there are no stats, games, or scores to talk about. Coaches and GMs are not out there telling you what and how they will draft. No one is saying peep about who they are looking to get or give up for FA.

All you can do is speculate or find another job.

Neaux, I'm with you as to why it happens, couldn't agree more - the problem, just as it is in television et al media is at the editorial level...

Editors once had some integrity and conscience - now we have this slash and burn tabloid mentality; damn victims and truthfulness as long as they have the story first...

TheOak · 02-24-2014, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Neaux, I'm with you as to why it happens, couldn't agree more - the problem, just as it is in television et al media is at the editorial level...

Editors once had some integrity and conscience - now we have this slash and burn tabloid mentality; damn victims and truthfulness as long as they have the story first...

There used to be a beat writer or two for each team and they kicked the stories and info up the chain.

Now:
32-64 beat writers
9,678,678,543,577 fans with blogs
6,456,875,567 sports news websites each having a person for each team.
678,764 NFL Network 'experts'

All putting words in Jimmy or his agents mouth so they can keep their job full instead of part time.

Then there is Costas still talking about Katrina

jeanpierre · 02-24-2014, 08:34 PM

Andrew Brandt: Jimmy Graham debate tough to predict - ESPN

jeanpierre · 02-25-2014, 09:47 PM

Report: Saints, Graham still several millions dollars per year apart | ProFootballTalk

jeanpierre · 02-26-2014, 06:39 AM

New Orleans Saints Rumors: Jimmy Graham Unhappy With Saints Offer

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02-22-2014, 05:06 PM	#191
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract Regarding this debate that the media is driving about WR vs TE, which I find humorous as the "media" just selected him as a First Team All-Pro Tight End, why is there no one to question these reports under light of day if that this fabricated discussion is somehow a quid pro quo with the player's agent(s) who are often source(s) for stories?!?
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02-23-2014, 05:29 AM	#192
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract Originally Posted by jeanpierre Regarding this debate that the media is driving about WR vs TE, which I find humorous as the "media" just selected him as a First Team All-Pro Tight End, why is there no one to question these reports under light of day if that this fabricated discussion is somehow a quid pro quo with the player's agent(s) who are often source(s) for stories?!? Because 80% of them are hacks and reputable journalists wouldn't give 5 seconds to read their work. The other 20% are not journalists but rather entertainment columnists and the stories do what is intended, generate website traffic in the offseason. Nearly all articles or columns about he NFL are opinion pieces that are written as though they were factual news; utilizing "is" instead of "possibly", "probably", or "arguably".

02-23-2014, 02:38 PM	#193
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract For me, the issue comes back to integrity and credibility... A writer/columnist's personal integrity and credibility has to be there for me to have some respect for what I'm reading, even if it's sporting news...

02-23-2014, 11:33 PM	#194
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract funny thing is the guidelines were all set in the collective bargaining agreement the nfl and the union have just agreed on. writers are writers and need to sell there rags. the real fun is to get in the room when the nfl and the players rep are arguing the 5 sets jimmy ran that will make the 4 million dollar difference. that would be fun to watch.

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02-24-2014, 07:13 AM	#195
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract Originally Posted by jeanpierre For me, the issue comes back to integrity and credibility... A writer/columnist's personal integrity and credibility has to be there for me to have some respect for what I'm reading, even if it's sporting news... Put your self in a sports writers shoes in the off season. I am not defending their blatant fabrication but what do they actually have to go on, especially if they are college grads with a journalism degree and never played the game. Its off season, so there are no stats, games, or scores to talk about. Coaches and GMs are not out there telling you what and how they will draft. No one is saying peep about who they are looking to get or give up for FA. All you can do is speculate or find another job.

02-24-2014, 12:47 PM	#196
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract Originally Posted by TheOak Put your self in a sports writers shoes in the off season. I am not defending their blatant fabrication but what do they actually have to go on, especially if they are college grads with a journalism degree and never played the game. Its off season, so there are no stats, games, or scores to talk about. Coaches and GMs are not out there telling you what and how they will draft. No one is saying peep about who they are looking to get or give up for FA. All you can do is speculate or find another job. Neaux, I'm with you as to why it happens, couldn't agree more - the problem, just as it is in television et al media is at the editorial level... Editors once had some integrity and conscience - now we have this slash and burn tabloid mentality; damn victims and truthfulness as long as they have the story first...

02-24-2014, 01:25 PM	#197
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract Originally Posted by jeanpierre Neaux, I'm with you as to why it happens, couldn't agree more - the problem, just as it is in television et al media is at the editorial level... Editors once had some integrity and conscience - now we have this slash and burn tabloid mentality; damn victims and truthfulness as long as they have the story first... There used to be a beat writer or two for each team and they kicked the stories and info up the chain. Now: 32-64 beat writers 9,678,678,543,577 fans with blogs 6,456,875,567 sports news websites each having a person for each team. 678,764 NFL Network 'experts' All putting words in Jimmy or his agents mouth so they can keep their job full instead of part time. Then there is Costas still talking about Katrina Danno likes this.

02-24-2014, 08:34 PM	#198
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract Andrew Brandt: Jimmy Graham debate tough to predict - ESPN

02-25-2014, 09:47 PM	#199
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract Report: Saints, Graham still several millions dollars per year apart \| ProFootballTalk

02-26-2014, 06:39 AM	#200
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