Jimmy Graham Contract

TheOak · 01-20-2014, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

Do you think Jimmy will give a home team discount? He's said he doesn't want to play with any other QB besides Drew. I wonder how far that will go?

I would say its time for the Jedi to lead by example. Drew restructures to show the Padiwan how to take one for the team.

jeanpierre · 01-20-2014, 01:01 PM

I still don't get how Brees, Falco commanded the contracts they did when neither have a League MVP between them...

Utah_Saint · 01-20-2014, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

I still don't get how Brees, Falco commanded the contracts they did when neither have a League MVP between them...

Supply and demand. You have to have a good quarterback to win nowadays and there aren't 32 good quarterbacks in the league. If you don't pay top dollar, someone else will.

jeanpierre · 01-20-2014, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

Supply and demand. You have to have a good quarterback to win nowadays and there aren't 32 good quarterbacks in the league. If you don't pay top dollar, someone else will.

More than Manning, Brady or Rogers?!?

Utah_Saint · 01-20-2014, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

More than Manning, Brady or Rogers?!?

Yeah, that is odd.

I think most people think of Drew in that elite group and they're still in the ballpark, 18.5 -19.2 million vs. 20 million. Maybe they didn't want to come off as greedy as Drew did.

But Flacco and Ryan's contracts show that teams don't want to be one position short of a shot at the Super Bowl. Even if they're not getting "elite", good is better than nothing.

TheOak · 01-20-2014, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

More than Manning, Brady or Rogers?!?

Rogers signed for more than Brees, so did Flacco, and Ryan.

Manning is only 800k less/year and there was a neck issue also.

jeanpierre · 01-20-2014, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Rogers signed for more than Brees, so did Flacco, and Ryan.

Manning is only 800k less/year and there was a neck issue also.

Manning, Brady and Rogers should be the three highest paid quarterbacks in the league and in that order...

then Brees; amazes me Ryan and Flacco were paid that amount of money...

TheOak · 01-20-2014, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Manning, Brady and Rogers should be the three highest paid quarterbacks in the league and in that order...

then Brees; amazes me Ryan and Flacco were paid that amount of money...

Based on what criteria?

jeanpierre · 01-20-2014, 07:59 PM

Criteria I'd start from...

1) League MVP

2) Quarterback Rating (more than one season, sorry Russell)

3) Portfolio (Wins, Losses, Championships, PostSeason)

hagan714 · 01-20-2014, 08:10 PM

ok fess up. jimmy is good but he has yet reached the elite statues among players.

elite rise up in the big games and do not disappear. the kid needs to reach that finally level.

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01-20-2014, 12:10 PM	#91
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract Originally Posted by Utah_Saint Do you think Jimmy will give a home team discount? He's said he doesn't want to play with any other QB besides Drew. I wonder how far that will go? I would say its time for the Jedi to lead by example. Drew restructures to show the Padiwan how to take one for the team.

01-20-2014, 01:01 PM	#92
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract I still don't get how Brees, Falco commanded the contracts they did when neither have a League MVP between them...

01-20-2014, 01:19 PM	#93
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract Originally Posted by jeanpierre I still don't get how Brees, Falco commanded the contracts they did when neither have a League MVP between them... Supply and demand. You have to have a good quarterback to win nowadays and there aren't 32 good quarterbacks in the league. If you don't pay top dollar, someone else will.

01-20-2014, 01:22 PM	#94
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract Originally Posted by Utah_Saint Supply and demand. You have to have a good quarterback to win nowadays and there aren't 32 good quarterbacks in the league. If you don't pay top dollar, someone else will. More than Manning, Brady or Rogers?!?

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01-20-2014, 03:17 PM	#95
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract Originally Posted by jeanpierre More than Manning, Brady or Rogers?!? Yeah, that is odd. I think most people think of Drew in that elite group and they're still in the ballpark, 18.5 -19.2 million vs. 20 million. Maybe they didn't want to come off as greedy as Drew did. But Flacco and Ryan's contracts show that teams don't want to be one position short of a shot at the Super Bowl. Even if they're not getting "elite", good is better than nothing.

01-20-2014, 03:57 PM	#96
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract Originally Posted by jeanpierre More than Manning, Brady or Rogers?!? Rogers signed for more than Brees, so did Flacco, and Ryan. Manning is only 800k less/year and there was a neck issue also.

01-20-2014, 07:48 PM	#97
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract Originally Posted by TheOak Rogers signed for more than Brees, so did Flacco, and Ryan. Manning is only 800k less/year and there was a neck issue also. Manning, Brady and Rogers should be the three highest paid quarterbacks in the league and in that order... then Brees; amazes me Ryan and Flacco were paid that amount of money...

01-20-2014, 07:49 PM	#98
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract Originally Posted by jeanpierre Manning, Brady and Rogers should be the three highest paid quarterbacks in the league and in that order... then Brees; amazes me Ryan and Flacco were paid that amount of money... Based on what criteria?

01-20-2014, 07:59 PM	#99
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract Criteria I'd start from... 1) League MVP 2) Quarterback Rating (more than one season, sorry Russell) 3) Portfolio (Wins, Losses, Championships, PostSeason)

01-20-2014, 08:10 PM	#100
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract ok fess up. jimmy is good but he has yet reached the elite statues among players. elite rise up in the big games and do not disappear. the kid needs to reach that finally level.

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