Jimmy Graham demanding 12 million per season?

lee909 · 03-01-2014, 12:57 PM

If it was easy to do what Jimmy does for the WR then why does nobody line them up to play like Jimmy does.IMO we are witnessing the TE position transitioning from the Blocker-Catcher to the Catcher-Blocker.Five years down the road and you will see more Graham size/build TE than the traditional big blockers

rezburna · 03-01-2014, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

If it was easy to do what Jimmy does for the WR then why does nobody line them up to play like Jimmy does.IMO we are witnessing the TE position transitioning from the Blocker-Catcher to the Catcher-Blocker.Five years down the road and you will see more Graham size/build TE than the traditional big blockers

Jimmy Graham isn't breaking the mold. We've seen him before. Shannon Sharpe. Tony Gonzalez. Vernon Davis. Etc.

AlaskaSaints · 03-01-2014, 01:01 PM

Just like a high-maintenance woman you can't afford; you love her for a while and you LET HER GO.

Alaska

lee909 · 03-01-2014, 01:02 PM

Surely that depends on who she is.
Id dig myself into the national debt of the UK for a few weeks with Kate Upton

lee909 · 03-01-2014, 02:16 PM

Jimmy Grahams worst statistic season is on par with Davis best and pretty much the same as Sharpes best.

TheOak · 03-01-2014, 02:22 PM

Someone somewhere is tired of her crap no matter how beautiful you think she is.

Jimmy is not a WR, he is a TE. Therefore he must be graded as performing a TEs tasks and you know where that is going...... He can't block.

Anyone been to New Iberia in the 80's and 90's? Doesn't matter what tags you saw on those Mustangs, they were not Saleens.

No matter what tag falls on Jimmy he is not a WR.

If you think his stats make him a WR, then Pierre Thomas had 77 receptions and 513 yards. That's Reggie Wayne money 5.83m/year. PT had more yards and TDs.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/pl...false/count/81

Utah_Saint · 03-01-2014, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Someone somewhere is tired of her crap no matter how beautiful you think she is.

Jimmy is not a WR, he is a TE. Therefore he must be graded as performing a TEs tasks and you know where that is going...... He can't block.

Anyone been to New Iberia in the 80's and 90's? Doesn't matter what tags you saw on those Mustangs, they were not Saleens.

No matter what tag falls on Jimmy he is not a WR.

If you think his stats make him a WR, then Pierre Thomas had 77 receptions and 513 yards. That's Reggie Wayne money 5.83m/year. PT had more yards and TDs.
2013 NFL Player Receiving Stats - National Football League - ESPN

If Pierre lines up at wide receiver twice as often as he lines up in the backfield then yes, he has a legit claim at the designation. Espcially if it means an extra $5 million a year.

TheOak · 03-01-2014, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

If Pierre lines up at wide receiver twice as often as he lines up in the backfield then yes, he has a legit claim at the designation. Espcially if it means an extra $5 million a year.

Then you should probably refer to JG as WR from now on. I hope Jimmy Graham gets WR pay and what you think he is worth somewhere else. His name will be removed from all Tight End records, including the Saints record books. You no longer have the best TE in the game, you have got your self a bonafied top 20 WR.

But it doesn't work that way, if it did Luke McCown would have H by his name.

"Lining up" means nothing.

rezburna · 03-01-2014, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Then you should probably refer to JG as WR from now on. I hope Jimmy Graham gets WR pay and what you think he is worth somewhere else. His name will be removed from all Tight End records, including the Saints record books. You no longer have the best TE in the game, you have got your self a bonafied top 20 WR.

But it doesn't work that way, if it did Luke McCown would have H by his name.

"Lining up" means nothing.

You've been on my good side for the last couple of months Oak. Keep this up and I'm motioning you get your own holiday on these forums.

Utah_Saint · 03-02-2014, 03:29 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Then you should probably refer to JG as WR from now on. I hope Jimmy Graham gets WR pay and what you think he is worth somewhere else. His name will be removed from all Tight End records, including the Saints record books. You no longer have the best TE in the game, you have got your self a bonafied top 20 WR.

But it doesn't work that way, if it did Luke McCown would have H by his name.

"Lining up" means nothing.

I hope Jimmy Graham stays with the Saints what ever designation he gets. It doesn't look like the Saints will be able to afford it though because of their cap situation and the money he's likely to be offered based on his production. I'm hoping that his desire to stay with Drew and the Saints out weighs his greed. Unfortunately, that doesn't happen much, so I'm not going to hold my breath.

Article 10, Section 9 says the position a player is tagged at is determined by"...the position above at which he participated in the most plays during the prior league year."

So it sounds like "Lining up" means just about everything.

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,099	Re: Jimmy Graham demanding 12 million per season? Originally Posted by lee909 If it was easy to do what Jimmy does for the WR then why does nobody line them up to play like Jimmy does.IMO we are witnessing the TE position transitioning from the Blocker-Catcher to the Catcher-Blocker.Five years down the road and you will see more Graham size/build TE than the traditional big blockers Jimmy Graham isn't breaking the mold. We've seen him before. Shannon Sharpe. Tony Gonzalez. Vernon Davis. Etc.

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Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Jimmy Graham demanding 12 million per season? Originally Posted by TheOak Someone somewhere is tired of her crap no matter how beautiful you think she is. Jimmy is not a WR, he is a TE. Therefore he must be graded as performing a TEs tasks and you know where that is going...... He can't block. Anyone been to New Iberia in the 80's and 90's? Doesn't matter what tags you saw on those Mustangs, they were not Saleens. No matter what tag falls on Jimmy he is not a WR. If you think his stats make him a WR, then Pierre Thomas had 77 receptions and 513 yards. That's Reggie Wayne money 5.83m/year. PT had more yards and TDs. 2013 NFL Player Receiving Stats - National Football League - ESPN If Pierre lines up at wide receiver twice as often as he lines up in the backfield then yes, he has a legit claim at the designation. Espcially if it means an extra $5 million a year.

03-01-2014, 03:01 PM	#8
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Jimmy Graham demanding 12 million per season? Originally Posted by Utah_Saint If Pierre lines up at wide receiver twice as often as he lines up in the backfield then yes, he has a legit claim at the designation. Espcially if it means an extra $5 million a year. Then you should probably refer to JG as WR from now on. I hope Jimmy Graham gets WR pay and what you think he is worth somewhere else. His name will be removed from all Tight End records, including the Saints record books. You no longer have the best TE in the game, you have got your self a bonafied top 20 WR. But it doesn't work that way, if it did Luke McCown would have H by his name. "Lining up" means nothing.

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,099	Re: Jimmy Graham demanding 12 million per season? Originally Posted by TheOak Then you should probably refer to JG as WR from now on. I hope Jimmy Graham gets WR pay and what you think he is worth somewhere else. His name will be removed from all Tight End records, including the Saints record books. You no longer have the best TE in the game, you have got your self a bonafied top 20 WR. But it doesn't work that way, if it did Luke McCown would have H by his name. "Lining up" means nothing. You've been on my good side for the last couple of months Oak. Keep this up and I'm motioning you get your own holiday on these forums.

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Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Jimmy Graham demanding 12 million per season? Originally Posted by TheOak Then you should probably refer to JG as WR from now on. I hope Jimmy Graham gets WR pay and what you think he is worth somewhere else. His name will be removed from all Tight End records, including the Saints record books. You no longer have the best TE in the game, you have got your self a bonafied top 20 WR. But it doesn't work that way, if it did Luke McCown would have H by his name. "Lining up" means nothing. I hope Jimmy Graham stays with the Saints what ever designation he gets. It doesn't look like the Saints will be able to afford it though because of their cap situation and the money he's likely to be offered based on his production. I'm hoping that his desire to stay with Drew and the Saints out weighs his greed. Unfortunately, that doesn't happen much, so I'm not going to hold my breath. Article 10, Section 9 says the position a player is tagged at is determined by"...the position above at which he participated in the most plays during the prior league year." So it sounds like "Lining up" means just about everything.

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