Some New Orleans Saints fans should be ashamed of themselves -- Gerry V podcast

Seer1 · 06-19-2014, 12:05 PM

Again, who is Gerry V and more importantly, why should I give a rat's ass?

Seer1 · 06-20-2014, 08:38 AM

Please, let this thread die!!!

Marlboro Man · 06-20-2014, 01:28 PM

The thing that's really hurting Graham is his disappearing act in the playoffs and during important games during the season. You play wort 7MIL. you get paid 7 Mil. It is what it is.

Marlboro Man · 06-20-2014, 01:35 PM

The question that Jimmy needs to ask himself is, do I just want to make a boatload of money, or make a great deal of money and win a championship and leave a legacy.

AsylumGuido · 06-20-2014, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by Marlboro Man

The question that Jimmy needs to ask himself is, do I just want to make a boatload of money, or make a great deal of money and win a championship and leave a legacy.

Don't even go there. That is the most lame argument ever. You ask every single player in the league and to a person they will answer it "make a boatload of money", as they very well should. The vast majority of NFL players never even have the opportunity to get the big contract. Of the few that do, the vast majority of those will only have a single shot at one. You would have to be an absolute moron to pick legacy over financial future. Especially as a young player. I might be able see it it for a veteran who has already gotten multiple big deals and only has a year or two left. And probably not even then.

Danno · 06-20-2014, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Don't even go there. That is the most lame argument ever. You ask every single player in the league and to a person they will answer it "make a boatload of money", as they very well should. The vast majority of NFL players never even have the opportunity to get the big contract. Of the few that do, the vast majority of those will only have a single shot at one. You would have to be an absolute moron to pick legacy over financial future. Especially as a young player. I might be able see it it for a veteran who has already gotten multiple big deals and only has a year or two left. And probably not even then.

Perhaps, if the difference is great. But if the difference isn't all that substantial (10 million/season versus 11 miilion/season) than I'd certainly consider that a valid consideration.

Carl Nicks left for about a 10% increase over what we were offering. For 10% I'd definitely consider the circumstances over raw dollars every time.

Now if it was a 20% to 40% difference... see ya!

AsylumGuido · 06-20-2014, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Perhaps, if the difference is great. But if the difference isn't all that substantial (10 million/season versus 11 miilion/season) than I'd certainly consider that a valid consideration.

Carl Nicks left for about a 10% increase over what we were offering. For 10% I'd definitely consider the circumstances over raw dollars every time.

Now if it was a 20% to 40% difference... see ya!

Yup. Nicks made the very decision that every player will make and it is impossible for me to blame him.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 06-20-2014, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Perhaps, if the difference is great. But if the difference isn't all that substantial (10 million/season versus 11 miilion/season) than I'd certainly consider that a valid consideration.

Carl Nicks left for about a 10% increase over what we were offering. For 10% I'd definitely consider the circumstances over raw dollars every time.

Now if it was a 20% to 40% difference... see ya!

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Yup. Nicks made the very decision that every player will make and it is impossible for me to blame him.

Not every player. I do believe that I read that Tom Brady in fact took a substantial paycut to stay with the Patriots.

Of course that's a singular example of a player whose legacy is cemented and has nothing else to prove. And of course even with a paycut, it's still a ton of money.

SFIAH

AliJee · 06-21-2014, 12:00 AM

Originally Posted by Marlboro Man

The question that Jimmy needs to ask himself is, do I just want to make a boatload of money, or make a great deal of money and win a championship and leave a legacy.

boatload of money when you're in your prime and have a chance to get a max contract.
When you've made your money and your career is about to end that's when you try and chase rings and try to be a contender.

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44Champs · 06-20-2014, 09:17 PM

Did he call us "so-called loyal fan base?"

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Marlboro Man 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,469	Re: Some New Orleans Saints fans should be ashamed of themselves -- Gerry V podcast The thing that's really hurting Graham is his disappearing act in the playoffs and during important games during the season. You play wort 7MIL. you get paid 7 Mil. It is what it is.

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Marlboro Man 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,469	Re: Some New Orleans Saints fans should be ashamed of themselves -- Gerry V podcast The question that Jimmy needs to ask himself is, do I just want to make a boatload of money, or make a great deal of money and win a championship and leave a legacy.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,492	Re: Some New Orleans Saints fans should be ashamed of themselves -- Gerry V podcast Originally Posted by Marlboro Man The question that Jimmy needs to ask himself is, do I just want to make a boatload of money, or make a great deal of money and win a championship and leave a legacy. Don't even go there. That is the most lame argument ever. You ask every single player in the league and to a person they will answer it "make a boatload of money", as they very well should. The vast majority of NFL players never even have the opportunity to get the big contract. Of the few that do, the vast majority of those will only have a single shot at one. You would have to be an absolute moron to pick legacy over financial future. Especially as a young player. I might be able see it it for a veteran who has already gotten multiple big deals and only has a year or two left. And probably not even then. AliJee likes this.
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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,748	Re: Some New Orleans Saints fans should be ashamed of themselves -- Gerry V podcast Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Don't even go there. That is the most lame argument ever. You ask every single player in the league and to a person they will answer it "make a boatload of money", as they very well should. The vast majority of NFL players never even have the opportunity to get the big contract. Of the few that do, the vast majority of those will only have a single shot at one. You would have to be an absolute moron to pick legacy over financial future. Especially as a young player. I might be able see it it for a veteran who has already gotten multiple big deals and only has a year or two left. And probably not even then. Perhaps, if the difference is great. But if the difference isn't all that substantial (10 million/season versus 11 miilion/season) than I'd certainly consider that a valid consideration. Carl Nicks left for about a 10% increase over what we were offering. For 10% I'd definitely consider the circumstances over raw dollars every time. Now if it was a 20% to 40% difference... see ya!

06-20-2014, 03:24 PM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,492	Re: Some New Orleans Saints fans should be ashamed of themselves -- Gerry V podcast Originally Posted by Danno Perhaps, if the difference is great. But if the difference isn't all that substantial (10 million/season versus 11 miilion/season) than I'd certainly consider that a valid consideration. Carl Nicks left for about a 10% increase over what we were offering. For 10% I'd definitely consider the circumstances over raw dollars every time. Now if it was a 20% to 40% difference... see ya! Yup. Nicks made the very decision that every player will make and it is impossible for me to blame him.

06-20-2014, 03:27 PM	#8
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,781	Re: Some New Orleans Saints fans should be ashamed of themselves -- Gerry V podcast Originally Posted by Danno Perhaps, if the difference is great. But if the difference isn't all that substantial (10 million/season versus 11 miilion/season) than I'd certainly consider that a valid consideration. Carl Nicks left for about a 10% increase over what we were offering. For 10% I'd definitely consider the circumstances over raw dollars every time. Now if it was a 20% to 40% difference... see ya! Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Yup. Nicks made the very decision that every player will make and it is impossible for me to blame him. Not every player. I do believe that I read that Tom Brady in fact took a substantial paycut to stay with the Patriots. Of course that's a singular example of a player whose legacy is cemented and has nothing else to prove. And of course even with a paycut, it's still a ton of money. SFIAH

06-21-2014, 12:00 AM	#9
AliJee 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Southern California Posts: 267	Re: Some New Orleans Saints fans should be ashamed of themselves -- Gerry V podcast Originally Posted by Marlboro Man The question that Jimmy needs to ask himself is, do I just want to make a boatload of money, or make a great deal of money and win a championship and leave a legacy. boatload of money when you're in your prime and have a chance to get a max contract. When you've made your money and your career is about to end that's when you try and chase rings and try to be a contender. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using Tapatalk

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