secondary

halloween 65 · 09-22-2014, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

I've never been impressed with Bush. He's an OK starter, but certainly nothing special. He's often way out of the picture when a WR catches the ball.

We could do worse, and have, but he's just average in my opinion.

He is O.K., I want him to hit more, I like his pop.It has took a long time for me to warm up to him I hope he stays solid. Average can be good.

Danno · 09-22-2014, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

He is O.K., I want him to hit more, I like his pop.It has took a long time for me to warm up to him I hope he stays solid. Average can be good.

Just saw PFF grades, Bush graded our worst DB and 2nd worst defender just ahead of Humber.

Corey White graded out our best CB, Vaccaro our best DB.

Byrd with another negative grade.

hagan714 · 09-22-2014, 08:44 AM

lets be honest here. our secondary reminds me of the cowgirls secondary the years Rob was there. that worries me big time. so much has been made of his scheme being too difficult to master and it might be as simple as it suxs?

Mardigras9 · 09-22-2014, 08:48 AM

The defense did keep them out of the endzone, but I'm not sure they do if the Vikings had a more efficient red zone offense. Was it our defense doing it or the their offense not getting it done? I lean toward the latter.

ScottF · 09-22-2014, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

I hate to sound like a downer after a win, but #28 is not looking very much like the player he was last year. #32 is missing way too many tackles and dumb penalties. #31 doesn't look at all like the impact player he was on his old team. #24 and #25 are probably playing the best out of all the DB's at the moment.

I wonder if we haven't messed up the secondary by signing #31. I'm not saying he sucks or anything, but with #27 back there last year we had some man-to-man coverage ability in a safety. #31, it seems, can only play back in zone. I would obviously love to be proven wrong on this.

The main thing right now is #28. He really needs to get it together, because today he was reminded me of #21 and that's definitely not a good thing.

I thought Lewis looked better Sunday, and White stepped up. KV with too many whiffs again, and Byrd with a pedestrian performance.
I thought Bush played well at times; he is a consistent tackler, unlike KV and Prob

The Dude · 09-22-2014, 09:22 AM

We fix problems up front and these DBs will look amazing. I don't get how our line isn't getting pressure. They did it pretty well last season. We really have not lost anyone besides Harper.

The Dude · 09-22-2014, 10:04 AM

I miss Harper. Never hated him the way most people did.

halloween 65 · 09-22-2014, 10:54 AM

I think they should play tighter also, Byrd playing that far off makes me wonder if his back is up to 100% or not.When totally healthy thats one bad guy a turnover machine.

jnormand · 09-22-2014, 12:13 PM

I just keep waiting for all these "turnovers" to happen. 1 game against a decent QB with a shaky online and 2 games against below average QBs and we have 1 fumble recovery and 0 pics. Wtf?

Audiotom · 09-22-2014, 12:36 PM

I was at the game yesterday and there were way too many open guys and the Minnesota drives ended on miscue throws not our defenders contesting the ball

it almost seems like they stop the receiver once he catches the ball, not before

09-22-2014, 11:35 AM	#1
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: secondary Originally Posted by Danno I've never been impressed with Bush. He's an OK starter, but certainly nothing special. He's often way out of the picture when a WR catches the ball. We could do worse, and have, but he's just average in my opinion. He is O.K., I want him to hit more, I like his pop.It has took a long time for me to warm up to him I hope he stays solid. Average can be good. Danno likes this.

09-22-2014, 08:48 AM	#4
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: secondary The defense did keep them out of the endzone, but I'm not sure they do if the Vikings had a more efficient red zone offense. Was it our defense doing it or the their offense not getting it done? I lean toward the latter.

09-22-2014, 09:13 AM	#5
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: secondary Originally Posted by Jack Vegas I hate to sound like a downer after a win, but #28 is not looking very much like the player he was last year. #32 is missing way too many tackles and dumb penalties. #31 doesn't look at all like the impact player he was on his old team. #24 and #25 are probably playing the best out of all the DB's at the moment. I wonder if we haven't messed up the secondary by signing #31. I'm not saying he sucks or anything, but with #27 back there last year we had some man-to-man coverage ability in a safety. #31, it seems, can only play back in zone. I would obviously love to be proven wrong on this. The main thing right now is #28. He really needs to get it together, because today he was reminded me of #21 and that's definitely not a good thing. I thought Lewis looked better Sunday, and White stepped up. KV with too many whiffs again, and Byrd with a pedestrian performance. I thought Bush played well at times; he is a consistent tackler, unlike KV and Prob

09-22-2014, 09:22 AM	#6
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: secondary We fix problems up front and these DBs will look amazing. I don't get how our line isn't getting pressure. They did it pretty well last season. We really have not lost anyone besides Harper.
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09-22-2014, 10:04 AM	#7
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: secondary I miss Harper. Never hated him the way most people did.
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09-22-2014, 04:16 PM	#2
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,748	Re: secondary Originally Posted by halloween 65 He is O.K., I want him to hit more, I like his pop.It has took a long time for me to warm up to him I hope he stays solid. Average can be good. Just saw PFF grades, Bush graded our worst DB and 2nd worst defender just ahead of Humber. Corey White graded out our best CB, Vaccaro our best DB. Byrd with another negative grade.

09-22-2014, 08:44 AM	#3
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: secondary lets be honest here. our secondary reminds me of the cowgirls secondary the years Rob was there. that worries me big time. so much has been made of his scheme being too difficult to master and it might be as simple as it suxs?

09-22-2014, 10:54 AM	#8
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: secondary I think they should play tighter also, Byrd playing that far off makes me wonder if his back is up to 100% or not.When totally healthy thats one bad guy a turnover machine.

09-22-2014, 12:13 PM	#9
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,737	Re: secondary I just keep waiting for all these "turnovers" to happen. 1 game against a decent QB with a shaky online and 2 games against below average QBs and we have 1 fumble recovery and 0 pics. Wtf?

09-22-2014, 12:36 PM	#10
Audiotom 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 1,094 Blog Entries: 1	Re: secondary I was at the game yesterday and there were way too many open guys and the Minnesota drives ended on miscue throws not our defenders contesting the ball it almost seems like they stop the receiver once he catches the ball, not before hagan714 and WHODATINCA like this.

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