lee909

I like him but a little woried about him being Small in a big mans division
also

ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS
Burly, stout, old-school linebacker build. Wants to hit and brings his pads with him when he delivers a blow. Delivers a jarring punch into oncoming offensive linemen on second level. Defends his area of turf and sees past blockers, keeping his eye trained on the play. Is able to disengage and shed blockers. Plays low and with leverage. Once he diagnoses, can trigger into gaps and disrupt. Expected to be productive special-teams player at the next level.

WEAKNESSES Not a twitchy athlete. Takes time to gear up after changing directions and can struggle to tackle jitterbug runners in space. Heavy-legged mover in space and struggles to make plays outside of his assigned area. Lacks coverage traits and is a liability in man coverage. . Short levers won't allow him to leverage blockers as a pass rusher. Slow to get off his spot and burst laterally, which causes him to miss some tackle opportunities.

SOURCES TELL US "He's physical and plays angry at the point of attack. He's the type of guy you like having on your team because he brings toughness to practice. He's going to lay the wood to ball carriers when he gets a chance but college teams were already finding ways to go after him in the passing game." -- AFC East regional scout

"I have a little higher grade on Perryman than I probably should, but we like thumpers and badasses inside and he's both." -- AFC director of scouting

NFL COMPARISON D'Qwell Jackson

BOTTOM LINE Early down linebacker who can make plays against the run but will struggle if isolated in coverage. Perryman is a lunch-pail worker who enjoys the physical part of the game. Can be a highly productive NFL player but ceiling looks to be limited.

Really not sure what to think here to be honest,like him and what he brings but are we looking at another Lofton

"Two receivers to the left, Garcon to the right. Manning in the shotgun, puts Collie in motion. Looks in his direction...it's picked off! It's picked off! It's Tracy Porter again! He's runnin' free! He's gonna go all the way!

lee909

There is something there isnt there
We are due to loose all three of our DE at the end of the season and if we are staying 3-4 we need rotation there at least. I have a feeling we go back to 4-3 though,not sure why. I can see Ryan going unless we are a top 5 defense and i can see Allen pushing a 4-3.

lee909

If Mariota is there between 8-10 i could really see us moving up for him.
Dont mind them picks for us though

lee909

Some interesting prospect around the back end of the first round.

Not really looked alot at some of these players due to them not being top 15 picks and probably gone by our second rounder.

Thoughts on any of these

DTARIK ARMSTEAD
OREGON PAC-12

COMBINE RESULTS
40 -5.10 SEC
Bench - 24 REPS
Vert - 34.0 INCH
Broad - 117.0 INCH
3 cone - 7.57 SEC
Shuttle - 4.53 SEC


6'7" HEIGHT
33" ARM LENGTH
292LBS. WEIGHT
10 1/2" HANDS

ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS
Improved by leaps and bounds from 2013 to 2014. Elite size with ability to add more bulk to his frame. Quick-twitch athlete. Explodes upfield into blockers with good pad level and hip snap, gaining instant leverage against the run and often jarring them into the backfield. Gets good arm extension to control offensive linemen and peppers them with powerful hands. Can unlock quickly from blocks. Has above-average tackle radius thanks to his length and quickness.

WEAKNESSES
Power-based pass rush with very little production to show for it over his time at Oregon. Plays tall as pass rusher and doesn't use his hands to gain consistent advantages. Has no reliable counter moves when rush stalls. Gets caught up in whipping man in front of him rather than making the ball carrier his focus. Will win against an offensive lineman, but doesn't put himself into position to finish.

SOURCES TELL US
"I see the power in his hands and all of his tools, but I don't see the production or the consistent push that I feel like I should see from him. He could end up being a monster, but you have to understand that what you get right now is just a big athlete with some upside." -- Pac-12 area scout

NFL COMPARISON Calais Campbell

BOTTOM LINE
Projection-based prospect with elite size and the traits to become a dominant run-stuffing defensive end in an odd front. Armstead has the explosiveness off the snap and in his jarring punch to gain early advantages and control offensive linemen. Armstead is a fast riser but is still very raw. He will need patience and coaching and must become a more effective pass rusher at some point.



Remember at the end of this coming season both Cam and Hicks are out of contract

"Two receivers to the left, Garcon to the right. Manning in the shotgun, puts Collie in motion. Looks in his direction...it's picked off! It's picked off! It's Tracy Porter again! He's runnin' free! He's gonna go all the way!

FinSaint

I'm not saying I wouldn't want him in the black & gold, but some of those things jump out at me. With the emphasis on calling the "hands to the face" penalties on both sides of the lines - I fear that someone as tall as him and raw would receive quite a few flags for that infringement. Also, I'm not sure if using a 1st rounder to get a 20 year old with a lot of "upside" is the way to go with the way the Saints' coaching staff has been unable to really develop any of the high "upside" players of the past, especially on the defensive side of the ball.

"I'm not bashing people, I'm bashing their opinions because in my opinion their opinion is wrong" - Danno

hagan714

he is a freak. a tease. a pick that could make you giggle and act like a little school boy for a short time then one day you wake up and regret for the rest of your life that you ever went there in there first place. memories we all have

that or it gets sweeter over time like a fine wine and we all know how rare that is

FinSaint

True, and I'm intrigued by him all right. I just believe that all 1st rounders should be ready to start right away - at least in theory - and I don't think anyone can say that about this kid.

lee909

NT JORDAN PHILLIPS
OKLAHOMA BIG 12

6'5" HEIGHT
34 3/4"ARM LENGTH
329LBS. WEIGHT
9 3/8" HANDS

40 5.17 SEC
bench 28 REPS
vert 30.0 INCH
broad 105.0 INCH
3 cone 7.88 SEC
shuttle 4.68 SEC

ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS
Massive frame with long arms. Athletic lower body for a man his size. Read-and-react two-gap nose with ability to eat space and free linebackers. Uses length effectively and was able to split double teams as season wore on. Swim move for quick wins and trips into backfield when Sooners let him penetrate. Athletic with nimble feet and pursuit speed of a man much lighter. Should be able to carry additional muscle and girth.

WEAKNESSES
Scouts consider him a flash player who can dominate a game but will disappear during stretches. Needs to play with better knee bend and lower pad level. Loses some leverage and becomes top-heavy wrestler at times. Not effective as pass rusher. Stalls out early and settles for looking to bat down passes. Doesn't crank up a consistent bull rush. Consistency of motor could be improved.

SOURCES TELL US "He has the body type and length to play in a 3-4 or 4-3 front, but there is no reason to move him from the nose. If he gets that motor going, he could be a dominant pro." -- AFC North scout

NFL COMPARISON Terrance Knighton

BOTTOM LINE Nose tackle with desired height, weight and speed. Flashes talent necessary to project a ceiling as a dominant run stuffer best suited for a 3-4 defense. Phillips' ability to eat up blocks should help him earn a high grade, but it's his potential as a big athlete with above-average range for the position that could turn him into a Pro Bowl nose.



We need to get a big man to anchor this defensive front.
Bunkley time must be running short and though Jenkins showed flashes he had a rep out of college as lazy(if i remember correct) and he is prone too putting on weight. We need a rotation to keep the big guys fresh either way

"Two receivers to the left, Garcon to the right. Manning in the shotgun, puts Collie in motion. Looks in his direction...it's picked off! It's picked off! It's Tracy Porter again! He's runnin' free! He's gonna go all the way!

lee909

OT ERECK FLOWERS
MIAMI ACC


40 5.31 SEC
bench 37 REPS


6'6" HEIGHT
34 1/2" ARM LENGTH
329LBS. WEIGHT
9 7/8" HANDS

OVERVIEW
As a junior in 2014, started all but one game at left tackle and was second-team All-ACC selection. Flowers suffered a knee injury in the middle of the season and reportedly underwent a surgical procedure to repair the injury but missed only one game because of it. Admonished for using an obscene gesture toward Nebraska fans after an on-field skirmish. In 2013, started all 13 games at left tackle. In 2012, started four games as a freshman at right tackle. Ranked as a four-star prospect by Scout and Rivals coming out of Miami Norland High School. Helped lead team to a 15-0 record and Class 5A state championship. Was the only player at the NFL Scouting Combine who decided not to hire an agent.

ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS
Big, athletic frame carrying more than 320 pounds with ease. Ascending mauler in the run game. Bender who is low man off snap and pops hips into block to leverage defender at the point. Combines hips, arm extension and upper-body power to consistently turn his man when base blocking. Once he gets upper hand in run game, he usually sustains and finishes. Secures combo block with a vengeance. Has feet to become solid zone blocker. Mean and highly competitive. Wants to dominate and gets surly when beaten on a snap. Special foot quickness in pass protection. Able to mirror and counter two-way rushers or B-gap blitzers. Uses quick feet and loose hips to turn, scramble and recover when beaten. Pass-set depth and technique improved as year progressed. Has played both tackle positions.

WEAKNESSES
Pass protection needs plenty of work. Footwork gets sloppy
and undisciplined, causing base to narrow. Ducks head into contact and is a leaner in pass pro, creating balance problems. Rarely flat-footed upon initial hand contact. Throws hands rather than firing authoritative punch. Hands ride too high and too wide. Content to become grabby around framework of defender. Flagged for six holding penalties over last two seasons. Slow to secure and climb on combo blocks and is often lacking balance on the way to target. Doesn't bring feet under him to sustain second-level blocks. Knocked off balance by smaller pass rushers due to poor balance. Hips looked tight and struggled to gain ground when asked to pass set in combine drills.

NFL COMPARISON Anthony Davis

BOTTOM LINE
While they have different body types, Flowers will have some of the same strengths and flaws 2014 first-round pick Greg Robinson had coming in. Flowers has the size, feet and talent to be a very good left tackle but he will be a work in progress unless he can eliminate some of the balance issues that could plague him.


We need to start looking for depth and a eventual replacement for Strief
This guy looks like he could be a monster in the run game and with a bit of mentoring a good allround ROT

Love the bit in the Florida game(around 1:35) he is straight in there when it looked like somebody was going to stay on his RB on the ground. Just ready to stop any cheap shots. The next play is nice too,looks like he takes a quick hit to his right and then straight upfield pushing one defender then onto another opening space

"Two receivers to the left, Garcon to the right. Manning in the shotgun, puts Collie in motion. Looks in his direction...it's picked off! It's picked off! It's Tracy Porter again! He's runnin' free! He's gonna go all the way!

lee909

ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS
Former tight end who moves easily and naturally. Good initial quickness to reach cross-face blocks. Finisher in zone game. Can sustain blocks with proper hip roll and balance through contact. Keeps base wide and uses choppy, controlled steps in pass sets. Mirrors well and has feet to shut down stunts inside. Well-timed and effortless transition from initial block to second-level assignment. Adjusts with good change of direction. Fights back with resolution after losing a rep to defender. Understands how to create leverage advantages with angles and footwork.

WEAKNESSES
One of the most penalized tackles in 2015 draft class over last two seasons, including six holding calls during 2014 season. Needs angles to get consistent push in run game. Lacks power. Allows outside hand to get wide in pass pro, opening himself up to bull rush. Catches pass rusher rather than punching. Not much pop in his hands. Inconsistent feet as a run blocker, slowing feet at contact against power. Missed part of 2014 with a leg injury. Needs weight-room work to add more bulk to his frame. Needs to improve his contact balance against power.

BOTTOM LINE
If you are a zone-based team looking for an athletic, well-schooled tackle who can come in and compete for a starting position right away, then Fisher is your guy. He has the feet to play the left side and is savvy enough in the run game to man the right side. He needs more weight on his frame, but guard is also an option for Fisher.


Sounds interesting
Some issues and good points in bold

"Two receivers to the left, Garcon to the right. Manning in the shotgun, puts Collie in motion. Looks in his direction...it's picked off! It's picked off! It's Tracy Porter again! He's runnin' free! He's gonna go all the way!