Saints 23, Tampa 20

blackangold · 04-21-2015, 03:28 PM

When you play for nothing, and winning is detrimental to the future of the team you sit your players.

We are the real losers of the Tampa game. Tampa worked us until the 4th qtr, proved to themselves they could win if they wanted it then pulled their players and just ran it up the gut 3 downs and punted.

Everyone would be pissed if Brees got injured playing in a meaningless game yet no one cares winning that game might have cost us Beasley or Shelton. Instead we are hoping someone drops, shortsighted thinking at it's finest.

AsylumGuido · 04-21-2015, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

When you play for nothing, and winning is detrimental to the future of the team you sit your players.

We are the real losers of the Tampa game. Tampa worked us until the 4th qtr, proved to themselves they could win if they wanted it then pulled their players and just ran it up the gut 3 downs and punted.

Everyone would be pissed if Brees got injured playing in a meaningless game yet no one cares winning that game might have cost us Beasley or Shelton. Instead we are hoping someone drops, shortsighted thinking at it's finest.

Only losers do that. We'll get whomever we get and we will continue to try to win every single game. I repeat, only losers think about the draft.

blackangold · 04-21-2015, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Only losers do that. We'll get whomever we get and we will continue to try to win every single game. I repeat, only losers think about the draft.

We were losers, I don't recall the saints having a winning record last year. We should have been thinking about the draft and we are even bigger losers because we weren't. I understand the opposing point of view but it's a lack of foresight because of pride.

If Brees went down and never recovered, yet we won, would you care? I doubt it, and everyone would be calling for Payton's head.

Danno · 04-21-2015, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

We were losers, I don't recall the saints having a winning record last year. We should have been thinking about the draft and we are even bigger losers because we weren't. I understand the opposing point of view but it's a lack of foresight because of pride.

If Brees went down and never recovered, yet we won, would you care? I doubt it, and everyone would be calling for Payton's head.

Who is we?

blackangold · 04-21-2015, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Who is we?

The same WE you have in this post:

Originally Posted by Danno

We could get a #1 player at 13, then perhaps the #1 MLB at 31, and the #1 TE at 44.

What's your point?

AsylumGuido · 04-21-2015, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

We were losers, I don't recall the saints having a winning record last year. We should have been thinking about the draft and we are even bigger losers because we weren't. I understand the opposing point of view but it's a lack of foresight because of pride.

If Brees went down and never recovered, yet we won, would you care? I doubt it, and everyone would be calling for Payton's head.

Losing is an attitude, not the players on the field. Once a franchise goes into the lose to get a better pick mode they have given up. Screw that. Any player can go down any game. That means nothing. I want to win.

blackangold · 04-21-2015, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Losing is an attitude, not the players on the field. Once a franchise goes into the lose to get a better pick mode they have given up. Screw that. Any player can go down any game. That means nothing. I want to win.

I understand the mentality I just don't agree with how strategic it is.

The Dude · 04-26-2015, 12:04 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

When you play for nothing, and winning is detrimental to the future of the team you sit your players.

We are the real losers of the Tampa game. Tampa worked us until the 4th qtr, proved to themselves they could win if they wanted it then pulled their players and just ran it up the gut 3 downs and punted.

Everyone would be pissed if Brees got injured playing in a meaningless game yet no one cares winning that game might have cost us Beasley or Shelton. Instead we are hoping someone drops, shortsighted thinking at it's finest.

Now that Brees is older I sure hope Payton will start pulling him out once the game is out of hand. When we are up 3 scores with 3 minutes left and a decent running game there is no reason for him to be out there. Same thing when we have already lost. No reason to save face by putting the face of the franchise at risk.

04-21-2015, 04:10 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,491	Re: Saints 23, Tampa 20 Originally Posted by blackangold When you play for nothing, and winning is detrimental to the future of the team you sit your players. We are the real losers of the Tampa game. Tampa worked us until the 4th qtr, proved to themselves they could win if they wanted it then pulled their players and just ran it up the gut 3 downs and punted. Everyone would be pissed if Brees got injured playing in a meaningless game yet no one cares winning that game might have cost us Beasley or Shelton. Instead we are hoping someone drops, shortsighted thinking at it's finest. Only losers do that. We'll get whomever we get and we will continue to try to win every single game. I repeat, only losers think about the draft. jnormand likes this.

04-21-2015, 04:14 PM	#3
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Saints 23, Tampa 20 Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Only losers do that. We'll get whomever we get and we will continue to try to win every single game. I repeat, only losers think about the draft. We were losers, I don't recall the saints having a winning record last year. We should have been thinking about the draft and we are even bigger losers because we weren't. I understand the opposing point of view but it's a lack of foresight because of pride. If Brees went down and never recovered, yet we won, would you care? I doubt it, and everyone would be calling for Payton's head.

04-21-2015, 04:22 PM	#4
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,748	Re: Saints 23, Tampa 20 Originally Posted by blackangold We were losers, I don't recall the saints having a winning record last year. We should have been thinking about the draft and we are even bigger losers because we weren't. I understand the opposing point of view but it's a lack of foresight because of pride. If Brees went down and never recovered, yet we won, would you care? I doubt it, and everyone would be calling for Payton's head. Who is we? Tobias-Reiper likes this.

04-21-2015, 04:43 PM	#5
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Saints 23, Tampa 20 Originally Posted by Danno Who is we? The same WE you have in this post: Originally Posted by Danno We could get a #1 player at 13, then perhaps the #1 MLB at 31, and the #1 TE at 44. What's your point? SloMotion likes this.

04-21-2015, 04:34 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,491	Re: Saints 23, Tampa 20 Originally Posted by blackangold We were losers, I don't recall the saints having a winning record last year. We should have been thinking about the draft and we are even bigger losers because we weren't. I understand the opposing point of view but it's a lack of foresight because of pride. If Brees went down and never recovered, yet we won, would you care? I doubt it, and everyone would be calling for Payton's head. Losing is an attitude, not the players on the field. Once a franchise goes into the lose to get a better pick mode they have given up. Screw that. Any player can go down any game. That means nothing. I want to win. jnormand likes this.

04-21-2015, 03:28 PM	#1
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Saints 23, Tampa 20 When you play for nothing, and winning is detrimental to the future of the team you sit your players. We are the real losers of the Tampa game. Tampa worked us until the 4th qtr, proved to themselves they could win if they wanted it then pulled their players and just ran it up the gut 3 downs and punted. Everyone would be pissed if Brees got injured playing in a meaningless game yet no one cares winning that game might have cost us Beasley or Shelton. Instead we are hoping someone drops, shortsighted thinking at it's finest.

04-21-2015, 04:44 PM	#7
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Saints 23, Tampa 20 Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Losing is an attitude, not the players on the field. Once a franchise goes into the lose to get a better pick mode they have given up. Screw that. Any player can go down any game. That means nothing. I want to win. I understand the mentality I just don't agree with how strategic it is.

04-26-2015, 12:04 AM	#8
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: Saints 23, Tampa 20 Originally Posted by blackangold When you play for nothing, and winning is detrimental to the future of the team you sit your players. We are the real losers of the Tampa game. Tampa worked us until the 4th qtr, proved to themselves they could win if they wanted it then pulled their players and just ran it up the gut 3 downs and punted. Everyone would be pissed if Brees got injured playing in a meaningless game yet no one cares winning that game might have cost us Beasley or Shelton. Instead we are hoping someone drops, shortsighted thinking at it's finest. Now that Brees is older I sure hope Payton will start pulling him out once the game is out of hand. When we are up 3 scores with 3 minutes left and a decent running game there is no reason for him to be out there. Same thing when we have already lost. No reason to save face by putting the face of the franchise at risk. Jankman8 likes this.
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