Ex-Saints DE Will Smith killed; wife shot after traffic accident

04-12-2016, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

That's BS from what I understand they were both drafted by the Saints the same year and Smith was good friends with the man who shot and killed Hayes father in self defense. At the very least Hayes knew Smith. I think there was more to it than simply road rage

Nope, Hayes (28) was still a Louisiana high school prospect when Smith (34) was drafted in '04. This was just, "I got a gun"/"I'ma go get my gun" stuff that just escalates, #smh. IDK about the other stuff. The fact the shooter didn't leave the scene and willfully submitted to arrest tells me he probably felt threatened in some way by Smith, physically or verbally.

Never should of happened,

.

Everyone making judgements on guilt or innocence IMO are missing the point...tragedy for all parties involved regardless of legal outcome. — T-Bob Hebert (@TBob53) April 12, 2016

The Dude · 04-12-2016, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by SloMotion

Nope, Hayes (28) was still a Louisiana high school prospect when Smith (34) was drafted in '04. This was just, "I got a gun"/"I'ma go get my gun" stuff that just escalates, #smh. IDK about the other stuff. The fact the shooter didn't leave the scene and willfully submitted to arrest tells me he probably felt threatened in some way by Smith, physically or verbally.

Never should of happened, .

Everyone making judgements on guilt or innocence IMO are missing the point...tragedy for all parties involved regardless of legal outcome. — T-Bob Hebert (@TBob53) April 12, 2016

I agree 200%. I got the draft info from WWL. Just goes to show that even the media will jump to conclusions and get their facts mixed up. It's really doesn't matter anyway, a life was lost and two families will suffer.

RaginCajun83 · 04-12-2016, 06:04 PM

BREAKING: Police: Loaded gun found in Will Smith's vehicle; second loaded gun also in Cardell Hayes' vehicle

from wwl.com

44Champs · 04-12-2016, 06:47 PM

This might get really interesting

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|Mitch| · 04-12-2016, 06:58 PM

Danno · 04-12-2016, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by 44Champs

This might get really interesting

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Yep, perhaps Will threatened Hayes and went to his car to get his gun, and Hayes shot him before Will got his gun? That would explain why the shooter didn't flee the scene.

It is about to get interesting.

This dude may walk.

nola_swammi · 04-12-2016, 07:00 PM

Now enlighten with new evidence that a witness accounted what led to the brutal death to will smith I have a change of heart in the death penalty for the defendant. Witness at the scene of the accident say will smith was the aggressor ... His quote " I guess this guy (will smith) was like get out ***** I have a gun. And he (Hayes) goes ***** y'all I got one too and he (Hayes) grabs a gun and then he shoots him (will Smith) in the back, dead. Later police finds a will smith loaded gun.

I believe Louisiana is a stand your ground state, which in accounts will set Hayes free. I don't like it, I hate it but by the letter of the law this guy will be free if this is what truly happened

44Champs · 04-12-2016, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Yep, perhaps Will threatened Hayes and went to his car to get his gun, and Hayes shot him before Will got his gun? That would explain why the shooter didn't flee the scene.

It is about to get interesting.

This dude may walk.

Exactly what I'm thinking

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|Mitch| · 04-12-2016, 07:08 PM

What everyone is failing to realize, Smith hit Hayes Hummer and tried to flee. Hayes chases him down and then Will was killed, I don't see self defense... Police should have been called and Will Smith should have been arrested for hit and run, rather than shot multiple times...

nola_swammi · 04-12-2016, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

What everyone is failing to realize, Smith hit Hayes Hummer and tried to flee. Hayes chases him down and then Will was killed, I don't see self defense... Police should have been called and Will Smith should have been arrested for hit and run, rather than shot multiple times...

It's the threat that he was going to shoot Hayes and will smith having a loaded gun in his vehicle that will set this guy free. "Stand your ground law"

04-12-2016, 03:16 PM	#171
Threaded by SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by The Dude That's BS from what I understand they were both drafted by the Saints the same year and Smith was good friends with the man who shot and killed Hayes father in self defense. At the very least Hayes knew Smith. I think there was more to it than simply road rage Nope, Hayes (28) was still a Louisiana high school prospect when Smith (34) was drafted in '04. This was just, "I got a gun"/"I'ma go get my gun" stuff that just escalates, #smh. IDK about the other stuff. The fact the shooter didn't leave the scene and willfully submitted to arrest tells me he probably felt threatened in some way by Smith, physically or verbally. Never should of happened, . Everyone making judgements on guilt or innocence IMO are missing the point...tragedy for all parties involved regardless of legal outcome. — T-Bob Hebert (@TBob53) April 12, 2016 The Dude likes this.
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04-12-2016, 04:37 PM	#172
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,050	Re: Ex-Saints DE Will Smith killed; wife shot after traffic accident Originally Posted by SloMotion Nope, Hayes (28) was still a Louisiana high school prospect when Smith (34) was drafted in '04. This was just, "I got a gun"/"I'ma go get my gun" stuff that just escalates, #smh. IDK about the other stuff. The fact the shooter didn't leave the scene and willfully submitted to arrest tells me he probably felt threatened in some way by Smith, physically or verbally. Never should of happened, . Everyone making judgements on guilt or innocence IMO are missing the point...tragedy for all parties involved regardless of legal outcome. — T-Bob Hebert (@TBob53) April 12, 2016 I agree 200%. I got the draft info from WWL. Just goes to show that even the media will jump to conclusions and get their facts mixed up. It's really doesn't matter anyway, a life was lost and two families will suffer. SloMotion likes this.
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04-12-2016, 06:04 PM	#173
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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,725	Re: Ex-Saints DE Will Smith killed; wife shot after traffic accident Originally Posted by 44Champs This might get really interesting Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk Yep, perhaps Will threatened Hayes and went to his car to get his gun, and Hayes shot him before Will got his gun? That would explain why the shooter didn't flee the scene. It is about to get interesting. This dude may walk.

04-12-2016, 07:00 PM	#177
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Ex-Saints DE Will Smith killed; wife shot after traffic accident Now enlighten with new evidence that a witness accounted what led to the brutal death to will smith I have a change of heart in the death penalty for the defendant. Witness at the scene of the accident say will smith was the aggressor ... His quote " I guess this guy (will smith) was like get out *** I have a gun. And he (Hayes) goes *** y'all I got one too and he (Hayes) grabs a gun and then he shoots him (will Smith) in the back, dead. Later police finds a will smith loaded gun. I believe Louisiana is a stand your ground state, which in accounts will set Hayes free. I don't like it, I hate it but by the letter of the law this guy will be free if this is what truly happened

04-12-2016, 07:01 PM	#178
44Champs Site Donor Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,589	Re: Ex-Saints DE Will Smith killed; wife shot after traffic accident Originally Posted by Danno Yep, perhaps Will threatened Hayes and went to his car to get his gun, and Hayes shot him before Will got his gun? That would explain why the shooter didn't flee the scene. It is about to get interesting. This dude may walk. Exactly what I'm thinking Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk
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04-12-2016, 07:08 PM	#179
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Ex-Saints DE Will Smith killed; wife shot after traffic accident What everyone is failing to realize, Smith hit Hayes Hummer and tried to flee. Hayes chases him down and then Will was killed, I don't see self defense... Police should have been called and Will Smith should have been arrested for hit and run, rather than shot multiple times...

04-12-2016, 07:11 PM	#180
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Ex-Saints DE Will Smith killed; wife shot after traffic accident Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| What everyone is failing to realize, Smith hit Hayes Hummer and tried to flee. Hayes chases him down and then Will was killed, I don't see self defense... Police should have been called and Will Smith should have been arrested for hit and run, rather than shot multiple times... It's the threat that he was going to shoot Hayes and will smith having a loaded gun in his vehicle that will set this guy free. "Stand your ground law"

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