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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by The Dude Many policeman and citizens have had to use self defense to protect themselves. Self-Defense when Will was shot in the back, something like 5 times? Sitting in the drivers seat might I add......

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Old 04-11-2016, 10:20 PM   #1
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Many policeman and citizens have had to use self defense to protect themselves.
Self-Defense when Will was shot in the back, something like 5 times? Sitting in the drivers seat might I add...
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Old 04-11-2016, 08:09 PM   #2
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I'm sick to my stomach.

I'm angry. I'm sad.

I'm worried for New Orleans where this type of crime is more common than not.

My favorite city on earth needs a savior.
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I held back tears all day, but to all my BnG pals I sobbing now. prayers for the family and bless them in this difficult time. 44th, WILL SMITH will forever be remembered in this org. and in my home.
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I wonder if the Saints will consider retiring Will's #

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Old 04-12-2016, 06:08 PM   #5
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What everyone is failing to realize, Smith hit Hayes Hummer and tried to flee. Hayes chases him down and then Will was killed, I don't see self defense... Police should have been called and Will Smith should have been arrested for hit and run, rather than shot multiple times...
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What everyone is failing to realize, Smith hit Hayes Hummer and tried to flee. Hayes chases him down and then Will was killed, I don't see self defense... Police should have been called and Will Smith should have been arrested for hit and run, rather than shot multiple times...
It's the threat that he was going to shoot Hayes and will smith having a loaded gun in his vehicle that will set this guy free. "Stand your ground law"
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It's the threat that he was going to shoot Hayes and will smith having a loaded gun in his vehicle that will set this guy free. "Stand your ground law"
Negative; You can't go looking for a fight and then shoot someone and claim stand your ground. That's like someone threatening you, but leaves the area. You go kill them and claim self defense, doesn't work that way...

Now if Will would have hit him and jumped out with a gun in his possession, then you have the right to "stand your ground"
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Negative; You can't go looking for a fight and then shoot someone and claim stand your ground. That's like someone threatening you, but leaves the area. You go kill them and claim self defense, doesn't work that way...

Now if Will would have hit him and jumped out with a gun in his possession, then you have the right to "stand your ground"
100% correct. In the scenario above is revenge not self defense.
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Originally Posted by nola_swammi View Post
It's the threat that he was going to shoot Hayes and will smith having a loaded gun in his vehicle that will set this guy free. "Stand your ground law"
Unless Will Smith was pointing a gun at him, I dont think that constitutes standing your ground. But if he was going to get a gun, sounds like Cardelle was thinking he was gonna shoot him before Will had a chance.
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I pulled this off the internet:

Not too long ago, standing your ground meant, in part, proving that you tried to retreat from a threat before using self-defense...but not anymore.

"A judge or jury cannot consider the fact that you did not retreat if you're being tried for killing somebody when the defense is justifiable homicide," says Desoto Parish District Attorney, Richard Johnson.

Johnson says Louisiana's law is similar to Florida's and he says the law does not give you the right to aggressively pursue anyone.

"You're allowed to use deadly force and that a homicide is justifiable if you are in imminent danger of losing your life or receiving great bodily harm."

A person must also be acting lawfully in order to claim "Stand Your Ground" as a defense.

"If you see an assailant pointing at you with a gun or taking aim at you, you don't have to turn and run away," says Johnson.



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Johnson says Louisiana's law is similar to Florida's and he says the law does not give you the right to aggressively pursue anyone.
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