I think everyone has lost site of what the Saints were like 40 years ago. I'm just glad we have a DT or 2.

This kind of comment is so old and tired. Exactly how long would you like for people to look 40 years into the past? Isn't getting better, and elevating expectations kind of the point?

Say whatever you want about this draft, or this team, or that guy... Whatever. But please, stop using the past as a reason to excuse mediocrity.

Won't lose site of where we came from because the future depends on it. For the players, the coaches and the front office.

It impacts who we are, how we think, what we believe, how we interact with others, what we think is possible for ourselves, whether we view the world as good or bad, what we strive for. Our history—our upbringing—impacts everything we think and believe and do.

It's is impossible to know where to go without reflecting on your past. Understanding our heritage and our roots are a very important part of carving out our future.

Melissa Joy • Never Forget Where You Came From.

This excerpt is from Melissa Joy and a damn good one!

You can forget the past if you want to but I for one will never forget it and will remember it to motivate everyone in the future.

Won't lose site of where we came from because the future depends on it. For the players, the coaches and the front office.

It impacts who we are, how we think, what we believe, how we interact with others, what we think is possible for ourselves, whether we view the world as good or bad, what we strive for. Our history—our upbringing—impacts everything we think and believe and do.

It's is impossible to know where to go without reflecting on your past. Understanding our heritage and our roots are a very important part of carving out our future.

Melissa Joy • Never Forget Where You Came From.

This excerpt is from Melissa Joy and a damn good one!

You can forget the past if you want to but I for one will never forget it and will remember it to motivate everyone in the future.

You do realize this is a discussion about football, right? Comparing one's heritage to a football organization which has players who are not in any way related to the players who stunk up the joint in the past, is kind of far fetched, in my opinion.

But more than that, here's where you're really missing my point. I didn't say "forget" the past. Unless you have amnesia, you can't forget that, nor can you "choose" to forget. I asked how long you want us to look 40 years into the past. Meaning, how long before we can stop judging this team based on those teams, in your opinion?

It's fine to remember the past, but you have to move on from it. You're right in one sense... When you say it should be used as motivation. Absolutely. That means not settling for mediocrity, simply because "well, we've had worse". That's the overwhelming sentiment I get from people who constantly use that tired old line, as I described it earlier.

THIS is not THEN. That's the point I'm trying to get across.

Its waaaay too early for assumptions. Some posters are irate because the players "they" wanted weren't selected. Last year Ireland and staff picked prospects who were very productive in college and this years draft was no different. We are building from a solid 2015 draft. Give it time ...

Who knows, Von Bell could be the next Earl Thomas, Rankins the next LeRoi Glover , yada yada. It will be a few years before we know the answer on how well of a job the scouts did.

Meanwhile ...RELAX.

questioning the decisions of leadership that has made poor personnel decisions and poor draft choices is justified. Not everyone is making an assumption that things will turn out negatively, but we also know the recent history of poor drafts and we aren't going to run around pretending it is all sunshine and rainbows.

the reason for the board is exactly for these type of discussions. No one is pretending, at least i dont think they are, that we know more than guys that have tpsent their entire lives in the sport. Not at all, but since decisions like this have been made in other drafts and they have proven unsuccessful people can question them.

At the end of the day we are all fans and we all hope it is the best draft clas ever

That's where you are wrong. There are a few around here who absolutely believe they know more than the people in the front office. The vast majority of us look forward to coming in here to follow the actual draft and to hopefully learn about the players we picked up. Bad weather knocked out my satellite service Friday night and this forum was my only way to follow the Saints picks. I was met by posters constantly gripping and moaning about who the Saints had taken and who they should have taken instead. In case you didn't notice, it was irritating the crap out me.