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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Euphoria We don't have debth because we don't have cap... thanks to Bree's That is not an honest assessment. we have like 35 million in dead money, I am going to go ahead and blame that. Drew ...
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Originally Posted by K Major
Benson needs to limit Loomis to cap management and stay away from player evaluation and acquisition. Oh, and stop multi tasking the Pelicans and Saints. Pick one and stay there! Then Benson needs to limit Payton's power tremendously. I realize Ireland has been good at evaluating defense but has been hog tied by scheme changes. We have already cleaned house in the scouting department. Give the existing plan time to develop.
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Agreed. You forgot to add poor drafting and poor FA signings. Anyone who blamed Brees for this has very little knowledge of the game much less the business of football. All players get the maximum they can for the production on the field. Brees is no different. It's just what QBs like Brees get paid. People also forget he was grossly underpaid for his production prior to the contract.
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10-03-2016, 04:21 PM | #54 |
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Someone may want to look at other teams who have lests say less of a QB but can afford deep rosters of talent across the team. If you QB has a bad day - you lose. The other teams not so much.
Hell look at the teams who as of now ranked #1 in their divisions... all of them ranked #1 do not have a top teir QB. Even the Pats who have a 2nd and 3rd string starting ended up iwth a 3-1 record with out Brady. So don't give me that personal attack about not knowing football - this is fact. |
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10-03-2016, 04:38 PM | #55 |
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BEFORE injuries. We lost Lewis and 2 other starters before the season started. We looked pretty solid going in. We would have had what looks to be solid backups too unless ALL starters were injured which is exactly what happened
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10-03-2016, 05:00 PM | #56 |
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We HOPED the defense was better coming in. But you're talking about guys who were part of a horrible defense a year ago. You can't say affirmatively that we were looking better coming in. I had my hopes just like anybody else. But until this regime proves they can develop a defense, I'm not going to sit here and say we'd have a good defense without injuries. We'd be better at corner, for sure. But without a consistent pass rush, even better cornerbacks can't hold up.
Breaux and Ellerbe are impact guys. I haven't seen enough of P.J. Williams, and haven't seen any of Rankins. Kikaha flashed his quickness last year, but was a one trick pony who got easily fazed out too often. So it's really difficult to judge where we'd be. I look forward to getting at least some of them back to see what happens. In the mean time, the offense is going to have to suck it up. They've been very inconsistent so far. |
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10-03-2016, 05:03 PM | #57 |
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Majority of our starters the past couple games were suppose to be back ups so in training camp we had depth. Injuries took that depth away. If you listened to Jen Hale before 2nd half started she said Payton told her they were trying to protect the young guys on D with zone but mental mistakes put them out of position so in the 2nd half they were switching to man to make it less complicated. Sounds like good coaching to me.
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10-03-2016, 06:25 PM | #58 |
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Originally Posted by Euphoria
The Pats, Vikings, Broncos, perhaps the Eagles all have the blueprint for winning consistently in today's NFL - a talented, aggressive, well-stocked, well-coached defense. When you can stymie the likes of Aaron Rodgers like the Vikings did, you can afford to punt the ball and basically win by default.
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Im just going to like this post, because you invoked one of my favorite phrases and memories. Dome Patrol!
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10-03-2016, 09:41 PM | #60 |
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Originally Posted by neugey
The one thing all those teams do well is TACKLE! It's such a basic fundamental, yet our D doesnt do it well. It's like we'd rather get the big hit than make tackle. I'd be interested to see how many yards after touch we're giving up.
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