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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Euphoria We don't have debth because we don't have cap... thanks to Bree's That is not an honest assessment. we have like 35 million in dead money, I am going to go ahead and blame that. Drew ...

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Old 10-03-2016, 01:44 PM   #1
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Originally Posted by Euphoria View Post
We don't have debth because we don't have cap... thanks to Bree's
That is not an honest assessment. we have like 35 million in dead money, I am going to go ahead and blame that. Drew is earning what every qb earns
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Old 10-03-2016, 03:06 PM   #2
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That is not an honest assessment. we have like 35 million in dead money, I am going to go ahead and blame that. Drew is earning what every qb earns
Agreed. You forgot to add poor drafting and poor FA signings. Anyone who blamed Brees for this has very little knowledge of the game much less the business of football. All players get the maximum they can for the production on the field. Brees is no different. It's just what QBs like Brees get paid. People also forget he was grossly underpaid for his production prior to the contract.
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Agreed. You forgot to add poor drafting and poor FA signings. Anyone who blamed Brees for this has very little knowledge of the game much less the business of football. All players get the maximum they can for the production on the field. Brees is no different. It's just what QBs like Brees get paid. People also forget he was grossly underpaid for his production prior to the contract.
Someone may want to look at other teams who have lests say less of a QB but can afford deep rosters of talent across the team. If you QB has a bad day - you lose. The other teams not so much.

Hell look at the teams who as of now ranked #1 in their divisions... all of them ranked #1 do not have a top teir QB. Even the Pats who have a 2nd and 3rd string starting ended up iwth a 3-1 record with out Brady.

So don't give me that personal attack about not knowing football - this is fact.

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Old 10-03-2016, 05:25 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by Euphoria View Post
Someone may want to look at other teams who have lests say less of a QB but can afford deep rosters of talent across the team. If you QB has a bad day - you lose. The other teams not so much.

Hell look at the teams who as of now ranked #1 in their divisions... all of them ranked #1 do not have a top teir QB. Even the Pats who have a 2nd and 3rd string starting ended up iwth a 3-1 record with out Brady.

So don't give me that personal attack about not knowing football - this is fact.
The Pats, Vikings, Broncos, perhaps the Eagles all have the blueprint for winning consistently in today's NFL - a talented, aggressive, well-stocked, well-coached defense. When you can stymie the likes of Aaron Rodgers like the Vikings did, you can afford to punt the ball and basically win by default.

If our Dome Patrol existed in today's game, we'd be a more dominant version of the Broncos.
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Old 10-03-2016, 12:36 PM   #5
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Of all the possible games in the universe, to put Sean Payton's neck in the guillotine and say "win today, or die!" while wanting him to fail, this was simply NOT the right game to do it for! If you were into counting the Saints' chickens before they hatched, and a lot of us were, or if you wanted to turn off the TV and say "Same ole Saints," well then yesterday was simply NOT the right day to do it.

This was the "Drew is awesome" game. Look, it was a crazy, sloppy, up-and-down game, and the football gods basically smiled down on us and GAVE it to Drew at the very end. And that was mainly because he asked them nicely for it. End of story.

Did I think we were gonna win? Of course not. Those four plays on defense at the very end, we all know that if any ONE of those had gone differently, it would have been a different game and we would be singing a very different tune today. But they didn't, they actually happened.... incredible things DO happen sometimes....even to crummy football teams....

And in this case, that's probably because in the big cosmic scheme of things, yesterday had very little do with firing Payton, it was Drew's day in the sunshine, his day of personal redemption, plain and simple. The grouchy referendum on Payton and Loomis and stewing over the whole slew of coaches can wait until another time, another day. This wasn't the right game for that. When the universe is smiling down and sending you a message, you should just accept it.

On Saturday, Drew went to the exact spot on the field where he was injured in 2005 and prayed, and no doubt reflected on the journey that life has taken him on so far. THAT is the story line of yesterday, even in the final crazy minutes, while Drew was wandering around the sideline grinning like a schoolboy, after those crazy fumbles and defensive plays that had absolutely nothing to do with him, but gave him exactly what he had wanted and wished for.
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Of all the possible games in the universe, to put Sean Payton's neck in the guillotine and say "win today, or die!" while wanting him to fail, this was simply NOT the right game to do it for! If you were into counting the Saints' chickens before they hatched, and a lot of us were, or if you wanted to turn off the TV and say "Same ole Saints," well then yesterday was simply NOT the right day to do it.

This was the "Drew is awesome" game. Look, it was a crazy, sloppy, up-and-down game, and the football gods basically smiled down on us and GAVE it to Drew at the very end. And that was mainly because he asked them nicely for it. End of story.

Did I think we were gonna win? Of course not. Those four plays on defense at the very end, we all know that if any ONE of those had gone differently, it would have been a different game and we would be singing a very different tune today. But they didn't, they actually happened.... incredible things DO happen sometimes....even to crummy football teams....

And in this case, that's probably because in the big cosmic scheme of things, yesterday had very little do with firing Payton, it was Drew's day in the sunshine, his day of personal redemption, plain and simple. The grouchy referendum on Payton and Loomis and stewing over the whole slew of coaches can wait until another time, another day. This wasn't the right game for that. When the universe is smiling down and sending you a message, you should just accept it.

On Saturday, Drew went to the exact spot on the field where he was injured in 2005 and prayed, and no doubt reflected on the journey that life has taken him on so far. THAT is the story line of yesterday, even in the final crazy minutes, while Drew was wandering around the sideline grinning like a schoolboy, after those crazy fumbles and defensive plays that had absolutely nothing to do with him, but gave him exactly what he had wanted and wished for.
We won a game, and the Chargers kinda chocked. It's that simple.

Drew Brees wasn't the only person on that field who ever faced adversity. I believe that God blesses people, and Drew has certainly been blessed. But you're suggesting that God intervened on the outcome of the game. Maybe back up the hyperbole just a tad.
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Old 10-03-2016, 04:03 PM   #7
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Majority of our starters the past couple games were suppose to be back ups so in training camp we had depth. Injuries took that depth away. If you listened to Jen Hale before 2nd half started she said Payton told her they were trying to protect the young guys on D with zone but mental mistakes put them out of position so in the 2nd half they were switching to man to make it less complicated. Sounds like good coaching to me.
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Old 10-03-2016, 09:27 PM   #8
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Fire Sean Payton .

No.

After this season, maybe so and maybe he needs , will want to move on to refresh himself. New challenges.

Whoknows.

No, it cannot stay like this for another year after this year.

Right now, he, his staff, his team have to regroup during the bye week . Maybe yesterday was their turning point.
I am just hoping for a 9-7 season. 8-8 even.

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Old 10-03-2016, 10:32 PM   #10
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Bill Johnson
Joe Vitt
Greg McMahon

Those are the coaches that nees to be fired!

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