Fire Sean Payton

burningmetal · 10-03-2016, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

BEFORE injuries. We lost Lewis and 2 other starters before the season started. We looked pretty solid going in. We would have had what looks to be solid backups too unless ALL starters were injured which is exactly what happened

We HOPED the defense was better coming in. But you're talking about guys who were part of a horrible defense a year ago. You can't say affirmatively that we were looking better coming in. I had my hopes just like anybody else. But until this regime proves they can develop a defense, I'm not going to sit here and say we'd have a good defense without injuries. We'd be better at corner, for sure. But without a consistent pass rush, even better cornerbacks can't hold up.

Breaux and Ellerbe are impact guys. I haven't seen enough of P.J. Williams, and haven't seen any of Rankins. Kikaha flashed his quickness last year, but was a one trick pony who got easily fazed out too often. So it's really difficult to judge where we'd be. I look forward to getting at least some of them back to see what happens. In the mean time, the offense is going to have to suck it up. They've been very inconsistent so far.

Budsdrinker · 10-03-2016, 04:03 PM

Majority of our starters the past couple games were suppose to be back ups so in training camp we had depth. Injuries took that depth away. If you listened to Jen Hale before 2nd half started she said Payton told her they were trying to protect the young guys on D with zone but mental mistakes put them out of position so in the 2nd half they were switching to man to make it less complicated. Sounds like good coaching to me.

neugey · 10-03-2016, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Someone may want to look at other teams who have lests say less of a QB but can afford deep rosters of talent across the team. If you QB has a bad day - you lose. The other teams not so much.

Hell look at the teams who as of now ranked #1 in their divisions... all of them ranked #1 do not have a top teir QB. Even the Pats who have a 2nd and 3rd string starting ended up iwth a 3-1 record with out Brady.

So don't give me that personal attack about not knowing football - this is fact.

The Pats, Vikings, Broncos, perhaps the Eagles all have the blueprint for winning consistently in today's NFL - a talented, aggressive, well-stocked, well-coached defense. When you can stymie the likes of Aaron Rodgers like the Vikings did, you can afford to punt the ball and basically win by default.

If our Dome Patrol existed in today's game, we'd be a more dominant version of the Broncos.

skymike · 10-03-2016, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

The Pats, Vikings, Broncos, perhaps the Eagles all have the blueprint for winning consistently in today's NFL - a talented, aggressive, well-stocked, well-coached defense. When you can stymie the likes of Aaron Rodgers like the Vikings did, you can afford to punt the ball and basically win by default.

If our Dome Patrol existed in today's game, we'd be a more dominant version of the Broncos.

Im just going to like this post, because you invoked one of my favorite phrases and memories. Dome Patrol!

44Champs · 10-03-2016, 08:41 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

The Pats, Vikings, Broncos, perhaps the Eagles all have the blueprint for winning consistently in today's NFL - a talented, aggressive, well-stocked, well-coached defense. When you can stymie the likes of Aaron Rodgers like the Vikings did, you can afford to punt the ball and basically win by default.

If our Dome Patrol existed in today's game, we'd be a more dominant version of the Broncos.

The one thing all those teams do well is TACKLE! It's such a basic fundamental, yet our D doesnt do it well. It's like we'd rather get the big hit than make tackle. I'd be interested to see how many yards after touch we're giving up.

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K Major · 10-03-2016, 09:12 PM

Originally Posted by 44Champs

The one thing all those teams do well is TACKLE! It's such a basic fundamental, yet our D doesnt do it well. It's like we'd rather get the big hit than make tackle. I'd be interested to see how many yards after touch we're giving up.

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Here you go brother ...

Team Yards After Catch Allowed: 2016 NFL Season

OldMaid · 10-03-2016, 09:27 PM

Fire Sean Payton .

No.

After this season, maybe so and maybe he needs , will want to move on to refresh himself. New challenges.

Whoknows.

No, it cannot stay like this for another year after this year.

Right now, he, his staff, his team have to regroup during the bye week . Maybe yesterday was their turning point.
I am just hoping for a 9-7 season. 8-8 even.

SmashMouth · 10-03-2016, 09:37 PM

44Champs · 10-03-2016, 10:32 PM

Bill Johnson
Joe Vitt
Greg McMahon

Those are the coaches that nees to be fired!

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44Champs · 10-03-2016, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Here you go brother ...

Team Yards After Catch Allowed: 2016 NFL Season

Thank you K - ranked #25. I knew it was bad.

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10-03-2016, 04:00 PM	#51
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,903 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Fire Sean Payton Originally Posted by The Dude BEFORE injuries. We lost Lewis and 2 other starters before the season started. We looked pretty solid going in. We would have had what looks to be solid backups too unless ALL starters were injured which is exactly what happened We HOPED the defense was better coming in. But you're talking about guys who were part of a horrible defense a year ago. You can't say affirmatively that we were looking better coming in. I had my hopes just like anybody else. But until this regime proves they can develop a defense, I'm not going to sit here and say we'd have a good defense without injuries. We'd be better at corner, for sure. But without a consistent pass rush, even better cornerbacks can't hold up. Breaux and Ellerbe are impact guys. I haven't seen enough of P.J. Williams, and haven't seen any of Rankins. Kikaha flashed his quickness last year, but was a one trick pony who got easily fazed out too often. So it's really difficult to judge where we'd be. I look forward to getting at least some of them back to see what happens. In the mean time, the offense is going to have to suck it up. They've been very inconsistent so far. K Major likes this.
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10-03-2016, 04:03 PM	#52
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,772	Re: Fire Sean Payton Majority of our starters the past couple games were suppose to be back ups so in training camp we had depth. Injuries took that depth away. If you listened to Jen Hale before 2nd half started she said Payton told her they were trying to protect the young guys on D with zone but mental mistakes put them out of position so in the 2nd half they were switching to man to make it less complicated. Sounds like good coaching to me. skymike likes this.

10-03-2016, 05:25 PM	#53
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,895 Blog Entries: 7	Re: Fire Sean Payton Originally Posted by Euphoria Someone may want to look at other teams who have lests say less of a QB but can afford deep rosters of talent across the team. If you QB has a bad day - you lose. The other teams not so much. Hell look at the teams who as of now ranked #1 in their divisions... all of them ranked #1 do not have a top teir QB. Even the Pats who have a 2nd and 3rd string starting ended up iwth a 3-1 record with out Brady. So don't give me that personal attack about not knowing football - this is fact. The Pats, Vikings, Broncos, perhaps the Eagles all have the blueprint for winning consistently in today's NFL - a talented, aggressive, well-stocked, well-coached defense. When you can stymie the likes of Aaron Rodgers like the Vikings did, you can afford to punt the ball and basically win by default. If our Dome Patrol existed in today's game, we'd be a more dominant version of the Broncos. skymike and 44Champs like this.

10-03-2016, 07:23 PM	#54
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,083	Re: Fire Sean Payton Originally Posted by neugey The Pats, Vikings, Broncos, perhaps the Eagles all have the blueprint for winning consistently in today's NFL - a talented, aggressive, well-stocked, well-coached defense. When you can stymie the likes of Aaron Rodgers like the Vikings did, you can afford to punt the ball and basically win by default. If our Dome Patrol existed in today's game, we'd be a more dominant version of the Broncos. Im just going to like this post, because you invoked one of my favorite phrases and memories. Dome Patrol!

10-03-2016, 08:41 PM	#55
44Champs Site Donor Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,584	Re: Fire Sean Payton Originally Posted by neugey The Pats, Vikings, Broncos, perhaps the Eagles all have the blueprint for winning consistently in today's NFL - a talented, aggressive, well-stocked, well-coached defense. When you can stymie the likes of Aaron Rodgers like the Vikings did, you can afford to punt the ball and basically win by default. If our Dome Patrol existed in today's game, we'd be a more dominant version of the Broncos. The one thing all those teams do well is TACKLE! It's such a basic fundamental, yet our D doesnt do it well. It's like we'd rather get the big hit than make tackle. I'd be interested to see how many yards after touch we're giving up. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk K Major likes this.
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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 20,363 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Fire Sean Payton Originally Posted by 44Champs The one thing all those teams do well is TACKLE! It's such a basic fundamental, yet our D doesnt do it well. It's like we'd rather get the big hit than make tackle. I'd be interested to see how many yards after touch we're giving up. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk Here you go brother ... Team Yards After Catch Allowed: 2016 NFL Season 44Champs likes this.

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OldMaid Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,763 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Fire Sean Payton Fire Sean Payton . No. After this season, maybe so and maybe he needs , will want to move on to refresh himself. New challenges. Whoknows. No, it cannot stay like this for another year after this year. Right now, he, his staff, his team have to regroup during the bye week . Maybe yesterday was their turning point. I am just hoping for a 9-7 season. 8-8 even.

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44Champs Site Donor Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,584	Re: Fire Sean Payton Originally Posted by K Major Here you go brother ... Team Yards After Catch Allowed: 2016 NFL Season Thank you K - ranked #25. I knew it was bad. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk K Major likes this.
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