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Exactly
Moving up 12 spots and taking on a 12-16ml contract is a terrible deal.

Typical New England deal

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hope so boss, it would be nice.

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Sheard to Colts

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Well that's that... Going DE early and often in the draft.

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I am all for trading Cooks but trading him for Ealy and Butler is bad business. I prefer them to move away from a New England trade. They don't have a draft pick position worth the trade unless they give up a 1st rd pick and 4th rd pick. If anything they need to talk to Cleveland for that 12th rd pick which they're not even ready to trade until it's confirm that the qb they're targeting is off the board. Most likely have to trade Cooks for a 2018 1st rd pick and 4th rd pick this year hopefully 49ers might bite

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I agree. I don't want the FO to get into a frenzy trying to get rid of Cooks. Sometimes these things can get out of hand and it turns into just getting the trade done instead of making sure that it's fair.

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Or we can stay put and BC remains on the Saints roster for 2017.

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Starting to look more and more like that'll be the case. God what a waste of time all the speculation would end up being.

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Details in on G Larry Warford's new contract with Saints: 4 years, $34 million total (an average of $8.5 million per year). The deal includes $17 million in total guarantees, $8.4 million signing bonus and a salary-cap figure of $3.8 million in 2017. Expensive -- but not bad value for the Saints, who were also in the mix for guard Kevin Zeitler, who reportedly got $12 million per year from the Browns.

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We didn't get Zeitler he signed with the Browns. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ith-cleveland/

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As I have already said , enlighten me. Name just one.

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Nick Fairley's deal with the Saints is worth $28 million over four years ($7 million per year) plus another $500,000 per year in not-likely-to-be-earned sack incentives. He got an $8 million signing bonus and a total of $14 million in guarantees. His 2017 cap hit is $3 million. This is pretty much the exact deal I would have written up for Fairley if I was an independent arbitrator. He finally earned a lucrative long-term extension after a career-best season, but the Saints didn't have to overpay to keep him.

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Plus with only $14 million guaranteed we can cut him after the 2nd year if things aren't going well for whatever reason.

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Wayyyyy off. 2017 cap hit for Warford is 3.8 and Fairley is 3 million. Thats 6.8 in just those 2. Add in Ginn and Klein and I imagine yoy are close to 11 million.

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Yeah Nick Underhill guessed we're around $13.2 million in cap space.

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DE/OLB Datone Jones, DE, Packers (27) (26) / 6'4' / 285 / Rd. 1 (26) / GB

Datone Jones was drafted to be a five-technique, but was moved to outside linebacker. He did well there in 2015, but regressed a bit in 2016. He still has a ton of talent as a former first-round pick, however, and perhaps he'll improve once his role becomes fully defined.
Read more at WalterFootball.com: 2017 NFL Free Agents - Defensive Ends

Datone Jones*|*UCLA,*DE*:*2013 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile

http://www.acmepackingcompany.com/20...ide-linebacker

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2016/8/3...hange-breakout

Move him back to his old college position at DE from OLB which worked out so so. At the very least he would be an active part of a rotation and improve the depth at a thin DE position for the saints. should not break the bank to bad.

Still out there and probably had on a prove it contract
Jarvis Jones DE/OLB Pittsburgh 26 / 6'3' / 248 / 4.90 / 2013 / Rd. 1 (17) / PIT

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I wonder why we didn't a least talk to J Peppers? Definite upgrade and gives us exactly what we needed. The guy is ageless...

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Too light to play DE and not good against the run.

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I was thinking the same thing when Dwight Freeney was out there last year

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he dropped 30 pounds to move to LB. right now i have to think he would be an upgrade to to the rotation at the very least.

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Ingram let slip that we have a meeting with Dont'a Hightower. Then he said it was cancelled, but I'm hoping Payton told him to say that lol.

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I thiught i read the Pats were resigning him.

Id be suprised after signing Klien

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Jabal Sheard. Go away.

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The Tedd Ginn contract is pretty good imo

3 years,11ml with only 3ml guaranteed

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Like that a lot... we can cut him after this season if he stinks it up.

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So with no restructuring we have roughly 15 million in cap room. Subtract7.5 million for the draft picks that leaves us 7.5 million to spend. Looks like mid-level players from he on out. We need a safety, CB and a de for sure before the draft. So who is still out there?

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Now go get this man and we look good

http://dunk360.com/wp-content/upload...richardson.jpg

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Can't afford much. Which is why Hightower canceled the visit

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From what ive read they can if the want.
He needs a new deal anyway and is only getting 8ml this year. With an extension that can be lowered

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We made Jairus Byrd the highest paid safety in the league when we had like $2 million in cap space... I think Loomis could get anyone if we really wanted them.

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I take that back. Was just reading Tripplette's column on contract details.

If my math is right we still have roughly $13M before the draft?
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Damn. I like Marcus Cooper. He's a pretty good corner.

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Rez, you're the CB man... Who do you really like that's left out there. Still quite a few CB's available.

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Still available CB

Morris Claiborne, CB, Cowboys. Age: 27.
It's almost crazy to recall that Morris Claiborne was considered a colossal bust prior to this past season. Claiborne had done nothing but suck since being chosen sixth overall in the 2012 NFL Draft, but he performed like a shutdown corner this past season before getting hurt. Was that because he was in his contract year, though? Will he stink again if he signs a big deal? Teams thinking about giving Claiborne a ton of money need to be concerned about this.


Brandon Flowers, CB, Chargers. Age: 31.
Brandon Flowers was released because of his $9 million salary, but he can still play very well when healthy. His durability is a big concern, however. He played just six games in 2016 and has a history of concussions. Still, he could provide great value on a 1-year "prove it" deal.

Marcus Williams (RFA), CB, Jets. Age: 26.
The Jets' secondary has mostly struggled this year, but Marcus Williams has been an exception. Williams has performed well in the slot, though he did miss some action with an ankle injury. Still, he's only 26 in March, so he could continue to improve.

Sam Shields, CB, Packers. Age: 29.
Sam Shields is difficult to rate. He was considered the Packers' top cornerback heading into 2016, and while that's not saying much, he's worth a four-star rating at least under normal circumstances. Shields, however, missed all but one game last year with a concussion. As of this writing (Feb. 8), he still hasn't been cleared. Shields may never play again, and even if he's cleared, another concussion could knock him out of the league forever. However, his upside makes him worth signing to a 1-year "prove it" deal.

Darius Butler, CB, Colts. Age: 31.
With Vontae Davis banged up, Darius Butler was Indianapolis' top cornerback in 2016. Butler has been pretty inconsistent over his career, so he could regress next year. The fact that he turns 31 in March also needs to be considered.

Leon Hall, CB/S, Giants. Age: 32.
There's so much cornerbackng talent on the Giants that Leon Hall didn't get to play very much at the position. Hall should still be a decent corner, though he'll turn 33 in December. He can also play safety.

Darrelle Revis, CB, Jets. Age: 32.
Darrelle Revis signed a big contract two years ago. He struggled a bit in 2015 and then regressed into one of the worst cornerbacks in the NFL. Revis played like a one-star free agent in 2016, but he's just 32 (in July) and could rebound. He was once the best cornerback in the NFL, so I find it hard to believe that he's completely done. Perhaps Revis can move to safety.



Brandon Carr, CB, Cowboys. Age: 31.
Brandon Carr was once a very skilled cornerback, but his play has declined the past couple of seasons. He had a bit of a bounce-back year in 2016, but he turns 31 in May, so his best days are obviously behind him.

Patrick Robinson, CB, Colts. Age: 29.
Patrick Robinson has gone through a roller-coaster career thus far. He was a first-round pick in 2010 and played well at times, but he also struggled enough to get benched in New Orleans. Robinson performed well for the Chargers in 2015, but struggled in Indianapolis last season because of multiple injuries.

Terence Newman, CB, Vikings. Age: 38.
Terence Newman has been a great cornerback for a very long time, which is why it was surprising when he staged a mutiny against Mike Zimmer in Week 16. Newman turns 39 in September, and has told the media that he has contemplated retirement.

Brice McCain, CB, Titans. Age: 30.
Brice McCain struggled in Miami prior to this past season, but he performed well for the Titans. McCain will be 31 at some point during the season, however, and I don't trust him to keep up his high level of play.



Darryl Morris, CB, Colts. Age: 26.
Darryl Morris used to just be a backup and special-teams player, but he has shown some improvement and was actually a solid contributor down the stretch in 2016. Just 26, Morris could continue to improve.


Alterraun Verner, CB, Buccaneers. Age: 28.
Alterraun Verner signed a $25.5 million contract three years ago, but has struggled mightily the past two seasons. He's talented enough to rebound, but it's difficult to ignore how bad he's been for the Buccaneers.

Justin Gilbert, CB, Steelers. Age: 25.
Justin Gilbert has been absolutely terrible in the NFL thus far, but I'm rating him above the 1.5-star players because he was the eighth-overall pick in the 2014 NFL Draft, so he obviously has some great potential. Gilbert, however, has put zero effort into his career thus far. Perhaps being waived by the Steelers will serve as a wake-up call for him to turn his career around before he's out of the league for good.


Nickell Robey-Coleman, CB, Bills. Age: 25.
Nickel Robey-Coleman was great as a rookie in 2013, but regressed every year afterward and was ultimately benched in 2016. Perhaps he can return back to form, but he hasn't played well in a while.

Shareece Wright, CB, Ravens. Age: 30.
Shareece Wright has missed nine games in the past two seasons and was just average (or maybe slightly worse) when on the field. Wright turns 30 in April, so his best days are behind him.



Davon House, CB, Jaguars. Age: 28.
Jerraud Powers, CB, Ravens. Age: 30.
Antwon Blake, CB, Titans. Age: 27.
Tramon Williams, CB/S, Browns. Age: 34.
Leodis McKelvin, CB, Eagles. Age: 32.
Trevin Wade, CB, Giants. Age: 28.
B.W. Webb, CB, Saints. Age: 27.
Kyle Wilson, CB, Saints. Age: 29.
Marcus Burley (RFA), CB, Browns. Age: 27.
Corey White, CB/S, Bills. Age: 27.
Kayvon Webster, CB, Broncos. Age: 26.
Keenan Lewis, CB, Saints. Age: 31.
Greg Toler, CB, Redskins. Age: 32.
Coty Sensabaugh, CB, Giants. Age: 28.
Demontre Hurst (RFA), CB, Bears. Age: 26.
Troy Hill, CB, Rams. Age: 26.
Teddy Williams, CB, Panthers. Age: 29.
Dwayne Gratz, CB, Eagles. Age: 27.
Leon McFadden, CB, Cowboys. Age: 26.
Chris Lewis-Harris (RFA), CB, Ravens. Age: 28.
Steve Williams, CB, Rams. Age: 26.

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I like Sam Shields if he's healthy. I'd take a flier on Mo Claiborne too since we like to run a lot of man. Claiborne is good in man coverage. Both of them are actually. Good size as well. Shields is really fast. Other then that...looking forward to the draft.