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lee909 03-15-2017 03:36 PM

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Hopefully not much and more depth
I really think we need a true 3rd down back

CheramieIII 03-15-2017 03:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 740920)
Travaris Cadet staying with Saints after considering Jets, Bills, according to a source

— Aaron Wilson (@AaronWilson_NFL) March 15, 2017

Best move of his career and he's knows it very well!

voodooido 03-15-2017 11:55 PM

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Washington Redskins release veteran defensive end Ricky Jean Francois

Another depth/rotational guy? 30 yrs old and should come fairly cheap. Also went to LSU so might get a discount.

lee909 03-16-2017 04:05 AM

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Mike Triplett‏Verified account @MikeTriplett 6h6 hours ago
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#Saints free agent RB Tim Hightower is scheduled to visit the #49ers on Thursday, per source. Hightower, 30, has... Saints free agent RB Tim Hightower is scheduled to visit the 49ers on Thursday, per source. Hightower, 30, has been an ideal backup for the Saints the past two years after making a remarkable recovery from a torn ACL and ensuing infection that kept h

jeanpierre 03-16-2017 10:18 AM

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Thought some of you would enjoy this precious nugget, especially the last part...


rezburna 03-16-2017 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 741007)
Washington Redskins release veteran defensive end Ricky Jean Francois

Another depth/rotational guy? 30 yrs old and should come fairly cheap. Also went to LSU so might get a discount.

I suppose he'd be a pretty good rotational DT, but we don't really need anymore depth there at the moment. He's a 3-4 DE, but not a 4-3 DE. I think he's like 300+ pounds.

voodooido 03-16-2017 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 741075)
I suppose he'd be a pretty good rotational DT, but we don't really need anymore depth there at the moment. He's a 3-4 DE, but not a 4-3 DE. I think he's like 300+ pounds.



He is over 3 bills. ESPN has him at 313. Almost all the same measurements at Davidson but RJF is bigger.

ChrisXVI 03-16-2017 12:44 PM

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Dontari Poe signs with the Failclowns. That's a nice signing... Bastards.

jeanpierre 03-16-2017 01:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 741109)
Dontari Poe signs with the Failclowns. That's a nice signing... Bastards.


I'd sure have felt better now if Loomis had gone a hair more and signed Kevin Zeitler...

frydaddy 03-16-2017 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 741114)
https://twitter.com/MikeTriplett/sta...18614888198145

I'd sure have felt better now if Loomis had gone a hair more and signed Kevin Zeitler...

I hear you, but Warford has a better supporting cast here than he did in Detroit. I think he'll bounce back and be a huge upgrade. Provided he's healthy of course.

hagan714 03-16-2017 01:27 PM

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glad we addressed OG

saintsfan1976 03-16-2017 03:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 741109)
Dontari Poe signs with the Failclowns. That's a nice signing... Bastards.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 741120)
glad we addressed OG

Warford is 6'3" and 330lbs. Atlanta had no choice but to sign Poe. Whether or not his back holds up is another question...

jeanpierre 03-16-2017 09:55 PM

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saintsfan1976 03-17-2017 07:36 AM

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We don't need him. We already have the beef to force RBs outside. What we don't have is the OLB with range to make plays.

Reuben Foster is that man.

brees84 03-17-2017 11:13 AM

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lee909 03-17-2017 11:52 AM

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JPP rubished the report

If it is true though them numbers are mental

K Major 03-17-2017 02:13 PM

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Bears sign defensive tackle John Jenkins | ProFootballTalk

Back up material at best. Swing and a miss draft selection by the Saints.

Euphoria 03-17-2017 02:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 741254)
We don't need him. We already have the beef to force RBs outside. What we don't have is the OLB with range to make plays.

Reuben Foster is that man.

Yes I agree and/or Riddick.

hagan714 03-17-2017 02:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 741227)

With JP resigned and the money running out in New York maybe reality has set in and a reasonable price can be reached with Hankins. This would give the saints probable on of there top DT rotations in the NFL. Hankins would be our best run stopper.

Sign him to the same type of deal as Fairley with the idea of cutting Fairley lose after 2 years and cash in on the cap savings. Fairley will be 31 and have a cap savings of 5 million in 2019 and 7 million in 2020. Haskin will be 26 and the saints will have the same out if it is needed in 2019

IMO Haskins is a better complement to Rankins

Fairley Contract
Year Cap Hit Dead Cap
2017 $3,000,000 $1,000,000
2018 $7,000,000 $6,000,000
2019 $9,000,000 $4,000,000
2020 $9,000,000 $2,000,000

I would love to see if a 3 man rush on third long with the package of Rankins Haskins Fairly

WhoDat!656 03-19-2017 04:09 PM

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Saints Unrestricted Free Agents Drawing Little Interest Across the League

http://www.canalstreetchronicles.com...-across-league

jeanpierre 03-19-2017 05:05 PM

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lee909 03-19-2017 05:48 PM

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Meh

jeanpierre 03-19-2017 10:23 PM

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jeanpierre 03-20-2017 04:29 AM

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Interesting factoid that this isn't the first time the Saints and an Athletes First client wasn't able to close a deal...

Last year it was CB Josh Norman (CCA Ryan Williams) who chose the Redskins over the Saints...

This year it was RG Kevin Zeitler, (CCA Joe Panos) who was advised the Browns over the Saints...

Something to file away and monitor...



Crusader 03-20-2017 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 741597)
Interesting factoid that this isn't the first time the Saints and an Athletes First client wasn't able to close a deal...

Last year it was CB Josh Norman (CCA Ryan Williams) who chose the Redskins over the Saints...

This year it was RG Kevin Zeitler, (CCA Joe Panos) who was advised the Browns over the Saints...

Something to file away and monitor...


https://twitter.com/alexmarvez/statu...98881454780416

Well if he gets two good offers but choses a poor team for more money then I'm happy we didn't get him. If we would have lowballed him that would be a different story.

lee909 03-20-2017 06:14 AM

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One thing that cant be helping getting players through the door has to be crime.

Ive not been to New Orleans and im not slinging any mud but there has been two high profile murders of NFL players in the last year or so. Crime is still pretty high in the state isnt it?

jeanpierre 03-20-2017 07:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 741606)
One thing that cant be helping getting players through the door has to be crime.

Ive not been to New Orleans and im not slinging any mud but there has been two high profile murders of NFL players in the last year or so. Crime is still pretty high in the state isnt it?

New Orleans and Baton Rouge (many displaced from Katrina ended up in BR or Houston)...

lee909 03-20-2017 07:08 AM

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Yeah i watched a show on the gang issues being spread to Houston after Katrina. Just something that come to mind,players will be worried bringing a family to an area with them sort of headlines. Being in any major city at the wrong time can be a disaster but the headline may hurt

Anyway obviously Zietler is a man who lets his agent whore him around for the biggest money not following the the path that could lead to success. Obviously the Saints have not been great for a couple of years but not bad like others and the chance to move forward is clear.

jeanpierre 03-20-2017 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 741625)
Yeah i watched a show on the gang issues being spread to Houston after Katrina. Just something that come to mind,players will be worried bringing a family to an area with them sort of headlines. Being in any major city at the wrong time can be a disaster but the headline may hurt

Anyway obviously Zietler is a man who lets his agent whore him around for the biggest money not following the the path that could lead to success. Obviously the Saints have not been great for a couple of years but not bad like others and the chance to move forward is clear.

Tried to find it on Twitter, but when fans were posting to his page, one from Cleveland said that at least you won't need flood insurance...

As long as Landrieu and the cronies are in charge, NOLA will still have its problems...

lee909 03-20-2017 07:49 AM

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No surprise about the Cleveland fans.
Youll always get that from other teams fans

Im a Liverpool fan and had to live for years with other fans sick chants abouts the Hillsbourgh disater(96 fans dead in a crush) and the police,press and government lies about it being th fault of drunk fans crushing their own. Even with that all being made public and the fault being now known to be the police failures we still get the chants and rubbish.

dizzle88 03-20-2017 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 741632)
No surprise about the Cleveland fans.
Youll always get that from other teams fans

Im a Liverpool fan and had to live for years with other fans sick chants abouts the Hillsbourgh disater(96 fans dead in a crush) and the police,press and government lies about it being th fault of drunk fans crushing their own. Even with that all being made public and the fault being now known to be the police failures we still get the chants and rubbish.

I've always been in two minds about Hillsborough Lee. Whilst you're absolutely right that the disaster was covered up by corrupt police/government, in my opinion both sides share blame. How morals go straight out the window because fans wanted to see a football game that much they pushed and pushed until people died is beyond me, of course it's completely out of line that people chant about it and how it was covered up.

lee909 03-20-2017 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 741633)
I've always been in two minds about Hillsborough Lee. Whilst you're absolutely right that the disaster was covered up by corrupt police/government, in my opinion both sides share blame. How morals go straight out the window because fans wanted to see a football game that much they pushed and pushed until people died is beyond me, of course it's completely out of line that people chant about it and how it was covered up.

Not sure how much you know on what actually happened

In them days the stands behind the goal were not fully opened but penned.
So you went into seperate pens. see pic

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._side_1989.png

Because the game was going to be started soon the Police decided to open up the overflow gate to all fans and just herded them into a couple of pens behind the goals. This led to only a couple of pens being fully occupied and others bing terribly overcrowed. Even when the police infront of the pens and on the pitch saw this instead of opening the pens and allowing the fans onto the pitch and delaying the game they left them in there and those at the front had nowhere to go ad those at the back knew nothing of the crush at the front

You had fans trying the climb over into the other pens and other being dragged out. Liverpool nearly scored after a few minutes which led to more swaying of fans trying to see again unaware of the issue(fans were always herded like cattle in th 70/80s) The same incident nearly ahppend a few years earlier but because of no deaths was ignored.It should also be noted that the ground had no safety certificate and should not have been hosting sporting events

44 Ambulances arrived on site and the Police stopped them entering the stadium. The Police also declared everyone dead within 15 mins which turned out to be another lie as some police admitted fans had shown signs of life 45 minutes after. How many people could have been rvived and saved.

The policed refused the request to start the game late
They refused entrance for 44 ambulances
Lied in statements after the game/rewrote there notebooks and statements
Then told the press that the Liverpool fans attacked them and stopped them attending the injured,picked pockets of those dying
Blamed the fans for being drunk
Even in last years new case they still pushed these claims and tried to have the case dropped

The whole thing could have been avoided had the game been delayed or they opened the gates. Even had the crush happened had they just allowed the ambulances entry the number of dfeaths would have been reduced but the worst part was all the lies afterwards. They took hold over here and the families have had to fight tooth and nail for the truth and yet even now the story is so well ingrained it has become the truth for many.

Of yeah and the police CCTV tapes went missing post match and the only people with access South Yorkshire Police


Im not one for pushing blame on the Police in all cases its a difficult job but they lost control of the situation and made mistake after mistake andspent 20 years blaming the victims


No doubt that crows trouble for 20 years in Europe had set the disaster in motion,but mistakes were made and nobody on the Police has ever paid the price of 96 deaths.

Sorry but this is obviously very close for me and i remember my Mum and Dad at the old public phone box all day trying to get through to the emergency lines and family back home as my uncle was in the crowd(luckily he was uninjured)

dizzle88 03-20-2017 08:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 741637)
Not sure how much you know on what actually happened

In them days the stands behind the goal were not fully opened but penned.
So you went into seperate pens. see pic

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._side_1989.png

Because the game was going to be started soon the Police decided to open up the overflow gate to all fans and just herded them into a couple of pens behind the goals. This led to only a couple of pens being fully occupied and others bing terribly overcrowed. Even when the police infront of the pens and on the pitch saw this instead of opening the pens and allowing the fans onto the pitch and delaying the game they left them in there and those at the front had nowhere to go ad those at the back knew nothing of the crush at the front

You had fans trying the climb over into the other pens and other being dragged out. Liverpool nearly scored after a few minutes which led to more swaying of fans trying to see again unaware of the issue(fans were always herded like cattle in th 70/80s) The same incident nearly ahppend a few years earlier but because of no deaths was ignored.It should also be noted that the ground had no safety certificate and should not have been hosting sporting events

44 Ambulances arrived on site and the Police stopped them entering the stadium. The Police also declared everyone dead within 15 mins which turned out to be another lie as some police admitted fans had shown signs of life 45 minutes after. How many people could have been rvived and saved.

The policed refused the request to start the game late
They refused entrance for 44 ambulances
Lied in statements after the game/rewrote there notebooks and statements
Then told the press that the Liverpool fans attacked them and stopped them attending the injured,picked pockets of those dying
Blamed the fans for being drunk
Even in last years new case they still pushed these claims and tried to have the case dropped

The whole thing could have been avoided had the game been delayed or they opened the gates. Even had the crush happened had they just allowed the ambulances entry the number of dfeaths would have been reduced but the worst part was all the lies afterwards. They took hold over here and the families have had to fight tooth and nail for the truth and yet even now the story is so well ingrained it has become the truth for many.

Of yeah and the police CCTV tapes went missing post match and the only people with access South Yorkshire Police


Im not one for pushing blame on the Police in all cases its a difficult job but they lost control of the situation and made mistake after mistake andspent 20 years blaming the victims


No doubt that crows trouble for 20 years in Europe had set the disaster in motion,but mistakes were made and nobody on the Police has ever paid the price of 96 deaths.

Sorry but this is obviously very close for me and i remember my Mum and Dad at the old public phone box all day trying to get through to the emergency lines and family back home as my uncle was in the crowd(luckily he was uninjured)

Don't get me wrong mate, I'm not saying the police are without blame. I know rough details such as Ambulances denied access and the police declaring people dead etc. and I'm glad your uncle escaped unhurt, I wouldn't wish that disaster on anyone.

CheramieIII 03-20-2017 12:28 PM

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Manti Te'o - Unsigned Free Agent - 2017 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com

I BET WE DON'T DRAFT ANY LINEBACKERS!

K Major 03-20-2017 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 741670)

That would be disappointing if we don't. I thought the Saints were trying to get "faster" on defense? I get he may understand Nolan's system but is this guy (Teo) even healthy :confused:?

dizzle88 03-20-2017 12:59 PM

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This is the bit that gets me;

Te'o has drawn zero interest in free agency, with New Orleans his only reported visit. Recovering from a torn Achilles' tendon, Te'o won't be gifted a starting job if he lands with the Saints. He'll have to earn it. Mar 20 - 1:08 PM
Source: Dan Graziano on Twitter

I get trying to make the D better, but go after guys that a) aren't always injured and b) are actually good players.

Speaks volumes that no teams except us called him.

lee909 03-20-2017 01:06 PM

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Has he signed,it was a while back i heard he was coming in.
Honestly i have no issue with this,as a back up to AJ he allows Robertson and Anthony to kick outside and he wont cost much

saintfan 03-20-2017 01:08 PM

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There's nothing wrong with taking a look. We sucked hard last year. I'd be digging under every rock.

lee909 03-20-2017 01:14 PM

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Saints, LB Manti Te'o near agreement on contract
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Former Chargers inside linebacker Manti Te'o is close to a deal with the New Orleans Saints, a source told ESPN's Dan Graziano.

A contract could be signed by Tuesday, the source said.

The Saints have already signed one inside linebacker this year, giving A.J. Klein a three-year, $15 million deal. But they are apparently seeking more depth and upgrades throughout their defense, which coach Sean Payton and general manager Mickey Loomis labeled as a top priority this offseason.

The Saints' embattled defense showed signs of improvement last year in Dennis Allen's first full year as defensive coordinator. But they still finished 27th in yards allowed and 31st in points allowed. Last year's starting middle linebacker, Craig Robertson, played well, but he could be moved outside.

The Chargers traded up in the 2013 draft to select Te'o in the second round out of Notre Dame. He has made 34 starts in 38 games, recording 221 tackles, 2 interceptions and 1 1/2 sacks.

In 2016, Te'o suffered a torn Achilles tendon in Week 3 against the Colts and was done for the year.

Te'o, who turned 26 in January, has missed a combined 26 games in his four previous NFL seasons



He wont be on much and likely an amount that can be absorbed if cut. He is worth a look. He was decent 2 years back and still only 26

hagan714 03-20-2017 01:25 PM

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yawn camp body


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