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Claiborne is a top talent however he is injury prone and can't stay on the field. Durability issues galore. We already got a bunch of corners who are injury riddled.

I'd continue to look elsewhere.

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Eh looking at the list Lee posted maybe there isn't much out there still after all. Bring back Moore and take Tre'Davious White at #32.

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I hope White falls to 32.

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Some names that fit in big contract category: Hightower, Poe, Lang, Hankins.

Or maybe trade for a corner or pass rusher.

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Wont be coming to NO after the Klein deal

Makes no sense
The man averages 3 missed games a season too and with the salary he wants missing nearly 20% of the season in the tub is not worthwhile

Good player when healthy

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yep, and another like 7.8 mil after june 1rst

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Willie Snead will eat a chunk of that though my guess is he wont sign the tender till the FA are all signed and the team knows how to structure the deal


Im still clinging onto seeing Richardson opposite Cam at DE

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Do something else Loomis!!! I need my signing fix lol.

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Is there a great DE still out there? If we can find that guy, it could really make Hagan's dream come true.

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Dont think anyone great is still there

Connor Barwin if the money is right

Could see what someone like Mario Williams wants
While nowhere near his best anymore still plays the run well

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Those left

Connor Barwin, DE/OLB, Eagles. Age: 30.
Connor Barwin collected 14.5 sacks in 2014, and he tallied seven sacks the year after. His production fell off a cliff this past season, however, as he was miscast as a 4-3 defensive end. That, and the near-$8 million cap savings are the two reasons Barwin was released. Barwin can still play though, and he would be wise to sign with a 3-4 team.

Datone Jones, DE, Packers. Age: 27.
Datone Jones was drafted to be a five-technique, but was moved to outside linebacker. He did well there in 2015, but regressed a bit in 2016. He still has a ton of talent as a former first-round pick, however, and perhaps he'll improve once his role becomes fully defined.


DeMarcus Ware, DE/OLB, Broncos. Age: 35.
DeMarcus Ware will be in the Hall of Fame one day, but he struggled this past season. An ailing back forced him to miss six games, and he accumulated just four sacks. Perhaps he'll rebound a bit in 2017, but he turns 35 in July, so it's not looking very good.


Trent Cole, DE/OLB, Colts. Age: 34.
Trent Cole dealt with a bothersome back injury this past season, limiting him to seven games. He wasn't bad when on the field, but he clearly wasn't the same player as he once was. Turning 35 in October, Cole doesn't have much time remaining in the league.

Paul Kruger, DE/OLB, Saints. Age: 31.
Paul Kruger has steadily declined over the past couple of years. He logged 11 sacks in 2014, but hasn't really been the same since, thanks in part to a back injury he suffered this past season.

Devin Taylor, DE, Lions. Age: 27.
I'm not sure what happened to Devin Taylor. He's had some quality seasons - he recorded seven sacks in 2015, for instance - but he was awful this past year.

Chris Long, DE, Patriots. Age: 32.
Chris Long was still an effective player for the Patriots this past season, but he's clearly not the dominant defender he used to be. Long turns 32 in March, and he probably has one more year as a somewhat decent starter remaining.

Dwight Freeney, DE, Falcons. Age: 37.
Dwight Freeney played about half of Atlanta's defensive snaps in 2016, serving as a situational pass-rusher. He did a good job in his reduced role, collecting three sacks. Freeney told the media that he's not considering retirement quite yet.

Mario Williams, DE, Dolphins. Age: 32.
Mario Williams was terrible in 2015, and he wasn't any better this past season. He notchd just 1.5 sacks, and he was ultimately a healthy scratch at the end of the year. Williams has lost all of his pass-rushing ability, but still happens to be decent versus the run. If he can stomach signing a deal for the minimum and being a two-down run specialist, that might be the only way he can continue his career.


Rob Ninkovich, DE, Patriots. Age: 33.
Margus Hunt, DE, Bengals. Age: 30.
Ethan Westbrooks (RFA), DE, Rams. Age: 26.
Alex Okafor, DE/OLB, Cardinals. Age: 26.
Wes Horton, DE, Panthers. Age: 27.
Armonty Bryant, DE, Lions. Age: 27.
Tourek Williams, DE/OLB, Chargers. Age: 26.
Sam Acho, DE/OLB, Bears. Age: 28.

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Paul Kruger makes the most sense to sign as:

• he's now had a year in D.A.'s scheme
  
• he improved after being signed late, in Week 1
  
• he a mature veteran who can help transition a younger player
  
• he can provide excellent depth for a position that needs rotation
  
• he's now had a full offseason to recover from his back injury

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Daryl Tapp too

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DeMarcus Ware

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Saintfan still not signed...


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I actually think that's a good idea. Either him or Barwin. 1 year deal that's affordable and fair.

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Barwin was cut because he's much better as a 3-4 pass rusher than he is as a 4-3 DE. Kruger played okay, but if we want somebody who can really get to the QB it's DeMarcus Ware on a 1 year deal as a rotational pass rusher.

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Datone Jones, DE, Packers. Age: 27.
Datone Jones was drafted to be a five-technique, but was moved to outside linebacker. He did well there in 2015, but regressed a bit in 2016. He still has a ton of talent as a former first-round pick, however, and perhaps he'll improve once his role becomes fully defined.

Let him bulk back up and move him back to his natural 43 DE position and call the 34 OLB experiment a failure. He also has a proven track record on special teams.

Devin Taylor, DE, Lions. Age: 27.
I'm not sure what happened to Devin Taylor. He's had some quality seasons - he recorded seven sacks in 2015, for instance - but he was awful this past year.

might be some what of a steal after a down year

Roll the dice on young bucks at lower cap hits and load up camp. Not like we have a ton of quality DE as it is. Old dogs dragging themselves on the field just aint cutting it

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How many guys actually are able to come back from a torn bicep injury?

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It depends on how bad it actually is. He played the whole season with it as I understand it..?

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Not too many. I think Parys Haralson had a similar injury + being an older player didn't help his healing process.

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Well Suggs and Favre have both had bicep tears and ruptures and both come back fine

Favres injury was at the start of the 09 season too
Didnt exactly play badly either. Well until Tracy Porter intercepted him anyway

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Okafor isn't a sure thing but the talent is there.

Low risk/high reward. Worked with Nick Fairley.

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Okafor may not be anything incredible but as a replacement for Kasim Edebali there's potential for it to be an upgrade. Definitely hoping we bring him in.

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Chase Daniel may be back on the market?

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Thought Kasim played real well for us...

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Ugh, you beat me to it!!!! At 30 he could be a valuable backup and a stop gap in case Brees leaves or retires next year.

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Young kid at a cheap price. Win/win imo

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But is he any better than Cool Hand Luke?

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Probably not. But I seriously doubt Brees will step down for another three or more years ... unless it is with a second Super Bowl MVP.

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Thinks he's worth more than they're offering. Any bets on whether he gets it?

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Doubtful but he is 6 years younger

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Good points but ...
I'm probably in the minority here but I don't think Paul will be part of the plans in NO for 2017. Simply didn't have enough of an impact on a bad defense.

We need an upgrade.