2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

jeanpierre · 03-16-2017, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I think Kikiha will play DE and DE only. He's an EDGE through and through. He wouldn't make a good LB. He's slow and he isn't good in coverage. When he was coming out of the draft all the analysts said he was most comfortable with his hand in the ground, though his best fit would be as a 3-4 EDGE. If he can't contribute as a DE on this roster then I think it's best we cut him now and find somebody who can.

You're dead on that he's a 3-4 OLB only. If we can get a fourth or fifth for him and ship him to Pittsburgh, Denver, or another 3-4 scheme team, we should...

I'd even consider making him a conditional trade where his trade value would be commensurate with his success with his new team...

But he should be moved, he can't play DE in our 4-3; he doesn't have the legs, knees to hold and set the edge...

lee909 · 03-14-2017, 10:45 AM

If they could nab Butler for a 3rd(anymore is too much imo as he is a FA next year,they are not paying him). Th front office would be going into the draft in a really good place. Still holes but not having to reach

jeanpierre · 03-14-2017, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

If they could nab Butler for a 3rd(anymore is too much imo as he is a FA next year,they are not paying him). Th front office would be going into the draft in a really good place. Still holes but not having to reach

Believe he's got a first round tender on him...

Got to be worried about this; Patriots went out and got Gilmore, a guy they see twice a year, and left a guy who literally won them a Superbowl his rookie year and was their shutdown CB on this last Superbowl run...

Plus, why are the Saints suddenly enamored with him? Thought they wanted a taller CB for matchups? He's just barely 5' 10"! And if we're gonna commit that much coin, why not go after Gilmore and make cap room to accommodate the signing?

lee909 · 03-14-2017, 11:25 AM

They wont make a offer on Thursday imo
They will talk and discuss a future deal before talking to the pats about a trade.

Euphoria · 03-14-2017, 11:33 AM

Lets saw we get Butler with a deal we keep #11. Wow, that opens up a lot of choices for us.

lee909 · 03-14-2017, 11:35 AM

Ill be pissed if we give up 32 or even the 2nd
He will be a FA in a year and needs to be paid now

jeanpierre · 03-14-2017, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

Ill be pissed if we give up 32 or even the 2nd
He will be a FA in a year and needs to be paid now

Problem with the defense is in the front seven, has been, still is...

Need a big legitimate threat opposite Cam...

Need LB depth all over the field...

If we need anything, it's safeties...

Seer1 · 03-16-2017, 07:23 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Problem with the defense is in the front seven, has been, still is...

Need a big legitimate threat opposite Cam...

Need LB depth all over the field...

If we need anything, it's damn near everything...

FIFY JP

jeanpierre · 03-16-2017, 06:23 AM

lee909 · 03-16-2017, 07:49 AM

Or Ellerbe is cut to free up 3.2ml

03-14-2017, 10:45 AM	#2
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,877 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook If they could nab Butler for a 3rd(anymore is too much imo as he is a FA next year,they are not paying him). Th front office would be going into the draft in a really good place. Still holes but not having to reach

03-14-2017, 11:16 AM	#3
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by lee909 If they could nab Butler for a 3rd(anymore is too much imo as he is a FA next year,they are not paying him). Th front office would be going into the draft in a really good place. Still holes but not having to reach Believe he's got a first round tender on him... Got to be worried about this; Patriots went out and got Gilmore, a guy they see twice a year, and left a guy who literally won them a Superbowl his rookie year and was their shutdown CB on this last Superbowl run... Plus, why are the Saints suddenly enamored with him? Thought they wanted a taller CB for matchups? He's just barely 5' 10"! And if we're gonna commit that much coin, why not go after Gilmore and make cap room to accommodate the signing?

03-14-2017, 11:25 AM	#4
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,877 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook They wont make a offer on Thursday imo They will talk and discuss a future deal before talking to the pats about a trade.

03-14-2017, 11:33 AM	#5
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Lets saw we get Butler with a deal we keep #11. Wow, that opens up a lot of choices for us.

03-14-2017, 11:35 AM	#6
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,877 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Ill be pissed if we give up 32 or even the 2nd He will be a FA in a year and needs to be paid now

03-16-2017, 10:58 AM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by rezburna I think Kikiha will play DE and DE only. He's an EDGE through and through. He wouldn't make a good LB. He's slow and he isn't good in coverage. When he was coming out of the draft all the analysts said he was most comfortable with his hand in the ground, though his best fit would be as a 3-4 EDGE. If he can't contribute as a DE on this roster then I think it's best we cut him now and find somebody who can. You're dead on that he's a 3-4 OLB only. If we can get a fourth or fifth for him and ship him to Pittsburgh, Denver, or another 3-4 scheme team, we should... I'd even consider making him a conditional trade where his trade value would be commensurate with his success with his new team... But he should be moved, he can't play DE in our 4-3; he doesn't have the legs, knees to hold and set the edge...

03-14-2017, 11:43 AM	#7
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by lee909 Ill be pissed if we give up 32 or even the 2nd He will be a FA in a year and needs to be paid now Problem with the defense is in the front seven, has been, still is... Need a big legitimate threat opposite Cam... Need LB depth all over the field... If we need anything, it's safeties...

03-16-2017, 07:23 AM	#8
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by jeanpierre Problem with the defense is in the front seven, has been, still is... Need a big legitimate threat opposite Cam... Need LB depth all over the field... If we need anything, it's damn near everything... FIFY JP

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