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Well, he's not up against the Scout team any longer...
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What our offense "skill" positions could look like, possible post-trade of Cooks... :rolleyes:
SAINTS DEPTH CHART OFFENSE QB (2) 9 - Drew Brees, 7 - Luke McCown, 18 - Garrett Grayson FB (1) 29 - John Kuhn RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 36 - Daniel Lasco, 23 - Marcus Murphy WR (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 11 - Corey Fuller, 00 - Rashad Lawrence TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 85 - Jake Stoneburner, 45 - Garrett Griffin SR (3) 83 - Willie Snead, IV, 87 - Tommylee Lewis, WR 81 - Jordan Williams |
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Eve of 2017 NFL Free Agency
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2017 Free Agency OFFENSE QB (2) 9 - Drew Brees, 7 - Luke McCown, 18 - Garrett Grayson FB (1) 29 - John Kuhn RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 36 - Daniel Lasco, 23 - Marcus Murphy WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 11 - Corey Fuller, 00 - Rashad Lawrence LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, LG 73 - John Fullington C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 66 - Jack Allen RG (2) 65 - Senio Kelemete, 78 - Landon Turner RT (2) 64 - Zach Strief TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 85 - Jake Stoneburner, 45 - Garrett Griffin SR (2) 10 - Brandin Cooks, 87 - Tommylee Lewis, WR 81 - Jordan Williams DEFENSE DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 77 - D.J. Pettway, 76 - Mitchell Loewen DT (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins , 93 - David Onyemata NT (2) 95 - Tyeler Davison , 92 - Justin Zimmer, 96 - Ashaad Mabry DE (2) 58 - Obum Gwacham, 61 - Royce LeFrance SLB (2) 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha, 42 - Travis Feeney MLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 52 - Craig Robertson, 00 - Adam Bighill WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 54 - Nate Stupar LCB (2) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 46 - Ken Crawley, 39 - Taveze Calhoun, 43 - Jimmy Pruitt FS (3) 48 - Vonn Bell, 30 - Erik Harris, 35 - Robenson Therezie SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 00 - Forrest Hightower RCB (3) 25 - P.J. Williams, 27 - Damian Swann, 21 - De’Vante Harris, 00 - Anthony Gaitor KICKING K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead LS (1) 47 - Justin Drescher, 00 - Jesse Schmitt 2017 FREE AGENTS RB 34 - Tim Hightower (UFA) RB 38 - Travaris Cadet (UFA) WR 83 - Willie Snead (RFA) WR 16 - Brandon Coleman (ERFA) WR 19 - Jake Lampmann (ERFA) LG 68 - Tim Lelito (UFA) RG 73- Jahri Evans (UFA) RT 76 - Tony Hills (UFA) TE 86 - John Phillips (UFA) DE 55 - Darryl Tapp (UFA) DT 90 - Nick Fairley (UFA) DE 99 - Paul Kruger (UFA) DE 91 - Kasim Edebali (RFA) LB 97 - Sam Barrington (UFA) LB 57 - Jason Trusnik (UFA) LB 56 - Mike Mauti (UFA) CB 28 - B.W. Webb (UFA) CB 24 - Sterling Moore (UFA) CB 37 - Chris Banjo (UFA) CB 24 - Kyle Wilson (UFA) SS 41 - Roman Harper (UFA) FS 49 - Shiloh Keo (UFA) FS 33 - Jamarca Sanford (UFA) Key: Projected Starter Free Agent (UFA) – Unrestricted Free Agent; (RFA) – Restricted Free Agent; (ERFA) – Exclusive Rights Free Agent |
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Willie Snead, Kasim Edebali...
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2017 NFL Free Agency - Legal Tampering Period
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2017 Free Agency OFFENSE QB (2) 9 - Drew Brees, 7 - Luke McCown, 18 - Garrett Grayson FB (1) 29 - John Kuhn RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 36 - Daniel Lasco, 23 - Marcus Murphy WR (3) 10 - Brandin Cooks, 13 - Michael Thomas, 11 - Corey Fuller, 16 - Brandon Coleman LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, LG 73 - John Fullington C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 66 - Jack Allen RG (2) 65 - Senio Kelemete, 78 - Landon Turner RT (2) 64 - Zach Strief TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 85 - Jake Stoneburner, 45 - Garrett Griffin SR (2) 83 - Willie Snead, 87 - Tommylee Lewis, WR 81 - Jordan Williams, 00 - Rashad Lawrence DEFENSE DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 77 - D.J. Pettway, 76 - Mitchell Loewen DT (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins , 93 - David Onyemata NT (2) 95 - Tyeler Davison , 92 - Justin Zimmer, 96 - Ashaad Mabry DE (2) 58 - Obum Gwacham, 61 - Royce LeFrance SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha, 42 - Travis Feeney MLB (2) 52 - Craig Robertson, 00 - Adam Bighill WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 54 - Nate Stupar LCB (2) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 46 - Ken Crawley, 39 - Taveze Calhoun, 43 - Jimmy Pruitt FS (3) 48 - Vonn Bell, 30 - Erik Harris, 49 - Shiloh Keo, 35 - Robenson Therezie SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 37 - Chris Banjo, 00 - Forrest Hightower RCB (3) 25 - P.J. Williams, 27 - Damian Swann, 21 - De’Vante Harris, 00 - Anthony Gaitor KICKING K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead LS (1) 47 - Justin Drescher, 00 - Jesse Schmitt 2017 FREE AGENTS RB 34 - Tim Hightower (UFA) RB 38 - Travaris Cadet (UFA) WR 19 - Jake Lampmann (ERFA) LG 68 - Tim Lelito (UFA) RG 73- Jahri Evans (UFA) RT 76 - Tony Hills (UFA) TE 86 - John Phillips (UFA) DE 55 - Darryl Tapp (UFA) DT 90 - Nick Fairley (UFA) DE 99 - Paul Kruger (UFA) DE 91 - Kasim Edebali (RFA) LB 97 - Sam Barrington (UFA) LB 57 - Jason Trusnik (UFA) LB 56 - Mike Mauti (UFA) CB 28 - B.W. Webb (UFA) CB 24 - Sterling Moore (UFA) CB 24 - Kyle Wilson (UFA) SS 41 - Roman Harper (UFA) FS 33 - Jamarca Sanford (UFA) Key: Projected Starter Free Agent (UFA) – Unrestricted Free Agent; (RFA) – Restricted Free Agent; (ERFA) – Exclusive Rights Free Agent |
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2017 NFL Free Agency - Opening Day
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2017 Free Agency OFFENSE QB (2) 9 - Drew Brees, 7 - Luke McCown, 18 - Garrett Grayson FB (1) 29 - John Kuhn RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 36 - Daniel Lasco, 23 - Marcus Murphy WR (3) 10 - Brandin Cooks, 13 - Michael Thomas, 11 - Corey Fuller, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 19 - Ted Ginn LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, LG 73 - John Fullington C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 66 - Jack Allen RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 65 - Senio Kelemete, 78 - Landon Turner RT (2) 64 - Zach Strief TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 85 - Jake Stoneburner, 45 - Garrett Griffin SR (2) 83 - Willie Snead, 87 - Tommylee Lewis, 81 - Jordan Williams, 00 - Rashad Lawrence DEFENSE DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 77 - D.J. Pettway, 76 - Mitchell Loewen DT (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata, 92 - Justin Zimmer NT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Ashaad Mabry DE (2) 58 - Obum Gwacham, 61 - Royce LeFrance SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha, 42 - Travis Feeney MLB (2) 58 - A.J. Klein, 52 - Craig Robertson, 00 - Adam Bighill WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 54 - Nate Stupar LCB (2) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 46 - Ken Crawley, 39 - Taveze Calhoun, 43 - Jimmy Pruitt FS (3) 48 - Vonn Bell, 30 - Erik Harris, 49 - Shiloh Keo, 35 - Robenson Therezie SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 37 - Chris Banjo, 00 - Forrest Hightower RCB (3) 25 - P.J. Williams, 27 - Damian Swann, 21 - De’Vante Harris, 00 - Anthony Gaitor KICKING K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead LS (1) 47 - Justin Drescher, 00 - Jesse Schmitt Key: Projected Starter Free Agent Addition or Extension |
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Captain Obvious' List of Top Roster Needs After First Day of Free Agency:
1) Defensive End - Need a starter and at least one rotational end. 2) Offensive Line - Need Depth, Peat is invaluable as he can move out; Senio can back up interior line and Jack Allen is a marginal reserve center only. 3). Running Back - Ingram and Lasco, that's really it. 4). Tight End - Are we really going to trust Fleener as our starting TE, again? 5). Wide Receiver - Cooks hasn't left the building, yet; but it could get thin real fast. |
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2017 NFL Free Agency - Post Trade
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2017 Free Agency OFFENSE QB (2) 9 - Drew Brees, 7 - Luke McCown, 18 - Garrett Grayson FB (1) 29 - John Kuhn RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 36 - Daniel Lasco, 23 - Marcus Murphy WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 11 - Corey Fuller, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 19 - Ted Ginn, 00 - Rashad Lawrence LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, LG 73 - John Fullington, 78 - Landon Turner C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 66 - Jack Allen RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 65 - Senio Kelemete RT (2) 64 - Zach Strief TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 85 - Jake Stoneburner, 45 - Garrett Griffin SR (2) 83 - Willie Snead, 87 - Tommylee Lewis, 81 - Jordan Williams DEFENSE DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 77 - D.J. Pettway, 76 - Mitchell Loewen DT (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata, 92 - Justin Zimmer NT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Ashaad Mabry DE (2) 58 - Obum Gwacham, 61 - Royce LeFrance SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha, 42 - Travis Feeney MLB (2) 58 - A.J. Klein, 52 - Craig Robertson, 00 - Adam Bighill WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 54 - Nate Stupar LCB (2) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 46 - Ken Crawley, 39 - Taveze Calhoun, 43 - Jimmy Pruitt FS (3) 48 - Vonn Bell, 30 - Erik Harris, 49 - Shiloh Keo, 35 - Robenson Therezie SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 37 - Chris Banjo, 00 - Forrest Hightower RCB (3) 25 - P.J. Williams, 27 - Damian Swann, 21 - De’Vante Harris, 00 - Anthony Gaitor KICKING K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead LS (1) 47 - Justin Drescher, 00 - Jesse Schmitt Key: Projected Starter Free Agent Addition or Extension |
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DE baby. Let's go.
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You still giving up on Kikaha at DE, JP, even on a rotational basis? I still think he has the talent to have more of an impact than being slotted as a backup Sam.
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You're definitely right that he can be a rush backer on 3rd downs, but defense will know what's coming if that's all he does... Can see him rotating with Anthony, which will give him different looks to opposing offenses, thereby giving opponents pause as to what he'll do pre-snap... Just don't believe he has the base, legs in a 4-3 to set the edge as a DE... And honestly, I think he'll be limited this season coming back from his third knee operation... |
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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2017 Free Agency, Second Week :bng:
OFFENSE QB (2) 9 - Drew Brees, 7 - Luke McCown, 18 - Garrett Grayson FB (1) 29 - John Kuhn RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 36 - Daniel Lasco, 23 - Marcus Murphy WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 11 - Corey Fuller, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 19 - Ted Ginn, 00 - Rashad Lawrence LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, LG 73 - John Fullington, 78 - Landon Turner C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 66 - Jack Allen RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 65 - Senio Kelemete RT (2) 64 - Zach Strief TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 85 - Jake Stoneburner, 45 - Garrett Griffin SR (2) 83 - Willie Snead, 87 - Tommylee Lewis, 81 - Jordan Williams DEFENSE DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 77 - D.J. Pettway, 76 - Mitchell Loewen DT (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata, 92 - Justin Zimmer NT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Ashaad Mabry DE (2) 57 - Alex Okafor, 58 - Obum Gwacham, 61 - Royce LeFrance SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha, 42 - Travis Feeney MLB (2) 58 - A.J. Klein, 52 - Craig Robertson, 00 - Adam Bighill WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 54 - Nate Stupar LCB (2) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 46 - Ken Crawley, 39 - Taveze Calhoun, 43 - Jimmy Pruitt FS (3) 48 - Vonn Bell, 30 - Erik Harris, 49 - Shiloh Keo, 35 - Robenson Therezie SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 37 - Chris Banjo, 00 - Forrest Hightower RCB (3) 25 - P.J. Williams, 27 - Damian Swann, 21 - De’Vante Harris, 00 - Anthony Gaitor KICKING K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead LS (1) 47 - Justin Drescher, 00 - Jesse Schmitt Key: Projected Starter Free Agent Addition or Extension |
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If they could nab Butler for a 3rd(anymore is too much imo as he is a FA next year,they are not paying him). Th front office would be going into the draft in a really good place. Still holes but not having to reach
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Got to be worried about this; Patriots went out and got Gilmore, a guy they see twice a year, and left a guy who literally won them a Superbowl his rookie year and was their shutdown CB on this last Superbowl run... Plus, why are the Saints suddenly enamored with him? Thought they wanted a taller CB for matchups? He's just barely 5' 10"! And if we're gonna commit that much coin, why not go after Gilmore and make cap room to accommodate the signing? |
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They wont make a offer on Thursday imo
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Lets saw we get Butler with a deal we keep #11. Wow, that opens up a lot of choices for us.
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Ill be pissed if we give up 32 or even the 2nd
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Or Ellerbe is cut to free up 3.2ml
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Tyus Bowser, OLB, Houston 6021 240 4.67 #81 Sr late rounders and UDFA Langi Harvey ILB/SLB/FB BYU 6015 252 4.77 #21 rSr Jordan Evans ILB/OLB/SS Oklahoma 6021 232 4.51 #26 Sr Matt Milano DB/LB Boston College 6002 218 4.59 #28 |
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We've got some talent on this team...
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I was on PFT and saw and article about Tim Hightower visiting the 49ers, which means he's probably moving on. I'm completely fine with that, but it mentioned how we brought back Cadet. Why? What do they see in Cadet? I'd take a Reggie Bush reunion over keeping Cadet any day of the week. Mickey Loomis. Sean Payton. If you're reading this it's too late.
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I'd even consider making him a conditional trade where his trade value would be commensurate with his success with his new team... But he should be moved, he can't play DE in our 4-3; he doesn't have the legs, knees to hold and set the edge... |
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I really wouldn't want a 2017 Reggie back
Plenty of talent at RB in this draft. I,hoping Cadet is purely an insurance policy |
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