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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2017 And the Injured Reserve List Is Officially Started :bng:

OFFENSE

QB (2) 9 - Drew Brees, 10 - Chase Daniel, 18 - Garrett Grayson, 2 - Ryan Nassib

FB (1) 29 - John Kuhn, 39 - John Robinson (UDFA)

RB (4) 22 - Mark Ingram, 28 - Adrian Peterson, 41 - Alvin Kamara (R3, P67), 36 - Daniel Lasco,

38 - Travaris Cadet, 23 - Marcus Murphy, 35 - Trey Edmunds (UDFA)

WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 19 - Ted Ginn,

16 - Brandon Coleman, 15 - Jake Lampmann, 11 - Corey Fuller, 14 - Travin Dural (UDFA), 17 - Rashad Lawrence

LT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk (R1, P32), 79 - Bryce Harris, 72 - Terron Armstead

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 77 - John Fullington, 78 - Landon Turner

C (2) 61 - Josh LeRibeus, 62 - Chris Watt, 63 - Cameron Tom (UDFA), 66 - Jack Allen, 60 - Max Unger

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 65 - Senio Kelemete

RT (2) 64 - Zach Strief, 69 - Khalif Barnes

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 86 - John Phillips, 80 - Clay Harbor

SR (2) 83 - Willie Snead (ERFA),

81 - Jordan Williams, 87 - Tommylee Lewis, 88 - Justin Thomas (UDFA)

DEFENSE

DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 55 - Darryl Tapp, 70 - Mitchell Loewen, 74 - Alex Jenkins (PS-E)

DT (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 92 - Justin Zimmer, 68 - Devaroe Lawrence (UDFA)

NT (2) 93 - David Onyemata, 76 - Tony McDaniel, 96 - Ashaad Mabry, 95 - Tyeler Davison

DE (2) 57 - Alex Okafor, 91 -Trey Hendrickson (R3, P103), 97 - Al-Quadin Muhammad (R6, P196), 58 - Obum Gwacham

SLB (2) 53 - A.J. Klein, 54 - Nate Stupar, 45 - Sae Tautu (UDFA)

MLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 52 - Craig Robertson, 99 - Adam Bighill, 51 - Manti Te'o

WLB (3) 47 - Alex Anzalone (R3, P76), 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

RCB (3) 26 - P.J. Williams, 34 - Marshon Lattimore (R1, P11), 21 - De’Vante Harris, 24 - Sterling Moore, 27 - Damian Swann

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 30 - Erik Harris, 31 - Chris Banjo

FS (3) 48 - Vonn Bell, 43 - Marcus Williams (R2, P42), 25 - Rafael Bush, 35 - Robenson Therezie

LCB (2) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 20 - Ken Crawley, 37 - Arthur Maulet (UDFA), 39 - Taveze Calhoun


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 47 - Thomas Gafford, 49 - Chase Dominguez (UDFA), 45 - Garrett Griffin


INJURED RESERVE

DT 90 - Nick Fairley (NFI)


Roster Count - Total: 90; Offense: 43; Defense: 41; Kicking: 5


Key:

Projected Starter

Free Agent Addition/Extension

Rookie

Injured

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I totally agree. Lack of depth killed us last year. That was addressed.

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Guido, you're not kidding, look at what we might look like on Defense, if the season was this week...

DEFENSE

DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 93 - David Onyemata

DT (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 92 - Justin Zimmer

NT (2) 95 - Tyeler Davison, 76 - Tony McDaniel

DE (2) 57 - Alex Okafor, 91 -Trey Hendrickson (R3, P103)

SLB (2) 53 - A.J. Klein, 54 - Nate Stupar

MLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 52 - Craig Robertson

WLB (3) 47 - Alex Anzalone (R3, P76), 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

RCB (3) 26 - P.J. Williams, 34 - Marshon Lattimore (R1, P11), 21 - De’Vante Harris/24 - Sterling Moore

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 30 - Erik Harris

FS (3) 48 - Vonn Bell, 43 - Marcus Williams (R2, P42), 25 - Rafael Bush

LCB (2) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 20 - Ken Crawley

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When you have that many starter quality players as backups you are in great shape. I don't see anywhere where I would have concerns.

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Not to mention those young players will continue to grow as the season progresses.

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^^^ Million dollar question here is which one of these players can we count on to remain the healthiest in 2017 ?

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I would toss out Anzalone's broken arm last year as a factor. Then it would go back several years to when he had the shoulder issues. My money would be on Alex.

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Ellerbe got some bionics this last winter. He's gonna surprise us all!

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Better, Stronger, Faster.

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The media is beginning to note the depth on the defensive roster. This is what differs as compared to recent defensive rosters.

Which Surprise Starter Could Emerge for Each NFL Team in 2017?

New Orleans Saints

LB Alex Anzalone

The Saints depth chart is crowded at linebacker, but there are no standouts and no guaranteed starters. It's going to be a full-on competition when training camp rolls around.

Rookie Alex Anzalone could surprise. Per Mike Mayock of the NFL Network, Anzalone has the physical tools to start early in his career. "He's got great size and athletic ability," Mayock said. "He's a starting linebacker traits-wise."

Anzalone's biggest issue at Florida was staying on the field. If he's healthy, he's probably the most athletically gifted linebacker on the New Orleans roster.

His quickness, speed and coverage ability is valuable in today's pass-wacky NFL.

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Good size and speed. I hope he proves the critics wrong (can't stay on the field a full season).

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Remember Curtis Martin? When he was first drafted that was the knock on him. He experienced injuries throughout his college career. Once he made it to the NFL he had a tremendous career which was virtually injury free. That is only one example.

You never know.

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I think Alex could end up becoming the better LB than his former team mate Jarrad Davis (he went in the 1st to Detroit).

Training camp awaits.

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The latest I can find ...

Saints' Justin Zimmer acclimating to defensive scheme, seeks to make impact

He appears to be ready to compete for a job.

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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2017 July, Offseason :bng:

OFFENSE

QB (2) 9 - Drew Brees, 10 - Chase Daniel, 18 - Garrett Grayson, 2 - Ryan Nassib

FB (1) 29 - John Kuhn, 39 - John Robinson (UDFA)

RB (4) 22 - Mark Ingram, 28 - Adrian Peterson, 41 - Alvin Kamara (R3, P67), 36 - Daniel Lasco,

38 - Travaris Cadet, 23 - Marcus Murphy, 35 - Trey Edmunds (UDFA)

WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 19 - Ted Ginn,

16 - Brandon Coleman, 15 - Jake Lampmann, 11 - Corey Fuller, 14 - Travin Dural (UDFA), 17 - Rashad Lawrence

LT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk (R1, P32), 79 - Bryce Harris, 72 - Terron Armstead

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 77 - John Fullington, 78 - Landon Turner

C (2) 61 - Josh LeRibeus, 62 - Chris Watt, 63 - Cameron Tom (UDFA), 66 - Jack Allen, 60 - Max Unger

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 65 - Senio Kelemete

RT (2) 64 - Zach Strief, 69 - Khalif Barnes

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 86 - John Phillips, 80 - Clay Harbor

SR (2) 83 - Willie Snead (ERFA),

81 - Jordan Williams, 87 - Tommylee Lewis, 88 - Justin Thomas (UDFA)

DEFENSE

DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 55 - Darryl Tapp, 70 - Mitchell Loewen, 74 - Alex Jenkins (PS-E)

DT (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 92 - Justin Zimmer, 68 - Devaroe Lawrence (UDFA)

NT (2) 93 - David Onyemata, 76 - Tony McDaniel, 96 - Ashaad Mabry, 95 - Tyeler Davison

DE (2) 57 - Alex Okafor, 91 -Trey Hendrickson (R3, P103), 97 - Al-Quadin Muhammad (R6, P196), 58 - Obum Gwacham

SLB (2) 53 - A.J. Klein, 54 - Nate Stupar, 45 - Sae Tautu (UDFA)

MLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 52 - Craig Robertson, 99 - Adam Bighill, 51 - Manti Te'o

WLB (3) 47 - Alex Anzalone (R3, P76), 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

RCB (3) 26 - P.J. Williams, 34 - Marshon Lattimore (R1, P11), 21 - De’Vante Harris, 24 - Sterling Moore, 27 - Damian Swann

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 30 - Erik Harris, 31 - Chris Banjo

FS (3) 48 - Vonn Bell, 43 - Marcus Williams (R2, P42), 25 - Rafael Bush, 35 - Robenson Therezie

LCB (2) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 20 - Ken Crawley, 37 - Arthur Maulet (UDFA), 39 - Taveze Calhoun


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 47 - Thomas Gafford, 49 - Chase Dominguez (UDFA), 45 - Garrett Griffin


INJURED RESERVE

DT 90 - Nick Fairley (NFI)


Roster Count - Total: 90; Offense: 43; Defense: 41; Kicking: 5


Key:

Projected Starter

Free Agent Addition/Extension

Rookie

Injured

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How does a previous disappointment as a draft pick signed as a free agent earn this high of a ranking on our roster?

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Here's to hoping Adam makes the most of his opportunity. He's not only my dark horse to make the team, but contribute on special teams.
Good luck:bng: .

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So NFL Network is showing the Panthers-Raiders game from last season and all I can think is we're in trouble if AJ Klein is our starting Mike. It's just one game but it's a brutal performance. Definitely hoping he's put at Sam.

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So Manti Teo' still has a chance at MIKE :wink:?

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I admit I'm being a little unfair to Klein because after all it was only his second game starting at Mike after Kuechly's concussion. He could do very well at Mike for us after preparing for it all offseason with Mike Nolan.

I need to go watch some Chargers games because I haven't paid one bit of attention to Manti Teo's pro career. You think he could really do some good things for us huh?

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I was only joking as it relates to Teo' however I'm with you Chris 100% on Klein ... meh. Honestly I have no idea how the MLB spot is going to shake out but I do know that we actually have talent, depth ad a proven LB coach. That's something we haven't been able to say in quite a while. Whoever starts will do so because the coaching staff feels they are best suited to help us win. I don't expect Nolan to sugar coat anything. Give him a couple of months more to study film and watch the linebackers as a group.

FWIW, I hope Stephone gets his job back in year #3. I refuse to give up on him.

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I go back and look at footage from Stephone Anthony's rookie season and I don't care what ProFootballFocus says... That guy looked so damn good. His ability to knife through the traffic and stop a RB dead in his tracks is truly special. Considering the insurmountable evidence that Rob Ryan has no idea how to call a defense I almost can't believe we didn't show more faith in Anthony after that season.

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Awfully high for a guy that has failed to meet expectations - both his draft status and his own...

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I don't know. He was playing as well, if not better, than anyone else on the defense last season when he was forced to take that suspension. He finished 4th on the team in both solo and combined tackles and only played 11 games. He had two picks and two forced fumbles which tied the team lead in both categories. He led the team in total turnovers. You must remember that players are often limited by the play around them. We lost SIX CB's last year to injury. That has to affect the entire secondary.

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Kenny V is solid but not the impact player we need.

Saints FO have drafted two safeties in the second round 2 years in a row makes me wonder.

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If used to his strengths and with a supporting cast he may be that impact player. As for the two safeties drafted the last two years ... both are very talented and hard to pass up at that point especially with the more and more commonly utilized three safety sets.

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See I've always been under the impression that Vaccaro's role as nickel CB/moneybacker was born out of us not having good CB depth or LB's who can cover. If our CB's stay healthy and we can actually put a legitimate nickel CB on the field, and our revamped LB corp can help in pass defense... Will Vaccaro thrive as a more traditional safety or will his weaknesses be exposed?

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Vaccaro is good. Our defense has largely been a product of underwhelming pass rush and running out of depth at certain positions.

You may see him miss a play and not realize that the reason he's out of position is because he's feeling the pressure of trying to do not only his job but everyone else's.

With the talent we're acquiring now, and hopefully the improved pass rush, you could see a much better version of KV this year.

Just my two.

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Exposed. I'll take another Harper anyday!!

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I should clarify what I mean when I question if his weaknesses will be exposed. He's made a pretty good impact playing in the box, but the talk out of minicamp was that we're going to disguise coverages a lot more now that we have a good, versatile group of safeties. Vaccaro will be asked to play in a deeper zone more often because it's unexpected. That's never been his strong suit. I'm not saying he can't do it... Maybe he'll thrive. We won't know until it happens.

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Kenny as a true safety?
he has not developed into that roll yet and probably never will live up to first round pick value.

Kenny as a chess piece to move around and play a LB/S roll?
This is his specialty and he is one of the better ones in the NFL.

Just do not over pay the toy in 2018.

But Rob Roy had his dream and Pro Bowl SS Malcolm Jenkins was not part of that dream. So two first round picks spent on one position. Bit costly for a S/LB

Rob Ryan was the biggest mistake of the Sean Payton Era