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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2017 Free Agency, Second Week :bng:

OFFENSE

QB (2) 9 - Drew Brees, 7 - Luke McCown, 18 - Garrett Grayson

FB (1) 29 - John Kuhn

RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 36 - Daniel Lasco, 38 - Travaris Cadet, 23 - Marcus Murphy

WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 11 - Corey Fuller, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 19 - Ted Ginn, 00 - Rashad Lawrence

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, LG 73 - John Fullington, 78 - Landon Turner

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 66 - Jack Allen

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 65 - Senio Kelemete

RT (2) 64 - Zach Strief

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 85 - Jake Stoneburner, 45 - Garrett Griffin

SR (2) 83 - Willie Snead, 87 - Tommylee Lewis, 81 - Jordan Williams

DEFENSE

DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 77 - D.J. Pettway, 76 - Mitchell Loewen

DT (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata, 92 - Justin Zimmer

NT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Ashaad Mabry

DE (2) 57 - Alex Okafor, 58 - Obum Gwacham, 61 - Royce LeFrance

SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha, 42 - Travis Feeney

MLB (2) 58 - A.J. Klein, 52 - Craig Robertson, 00 - Adam Bighill

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 54 - Nate Stupar

LCB (2) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 46 - Ken Crawley, 39 - Taveze Calhoun, 43 - Jimmy Pruitt

FS (3) 48 - Vonn Bell, 30 - Erik Harris, 49 - Shiloh Keo, 35 - Robenson Therezie

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 37 - Chris Banjo, 00 - Forrest Hightower

RCB (3) 25 - P.J. Williams, 27 - Damian Swann, 21 - De’Vante Harris, 00 - Anthony Gaitor

KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 47 - Justin Drescher, 00 - Jesse Schmitt


Key:

Projected Starter

Free Agent Addition or Extension

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

Still a lot of questions marks and health concerns at the position.

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We've got five picks in the top 103, three of those top fifty to address it in one of the best, deepest defensive drafts in memory...

And consider the odds of all those Saints defenders getting injured in the same year all at once like they did; I like the odds of Karma that they stay healthy next season...

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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2017 Free Agency, Third Week :bng:

OFFENSE

QB (2) 9 - Drew Brees, 7 - Luke McCown, 18 - Garrett Grayson

FB (1) 29 - John Kuhn

RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 36 - Daniel Lasco, 38 - Travaris Cadet, 23 - Marcus Murphy

WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 11 - Corey Fuller, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 19 - Ted Ginn, 00 - Rashad Lawrence

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, LG 73 - John Fullington, 78 - Landon Turner

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 66 - Jack Allen

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 65 - Senio Kelemete

RT (2) 64 - Zach Strief

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 85 - Jake Stoneburner, 45 - Garrett Griffin

SR (2) 83 - Willie Snead, 87 - Tommylee Lewis, 81 - Jordan Williams

DEFENSE

DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 77 - D.J. Pettway, 76 - Mitchell Loewen

DT (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata, 92 - Justin Zimmer

NT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Ashaad Mabry

DE (2) 57 - Alex Okafor, 58 - Obum Gwacham, 61 - Royce LeFrance

SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 54 - Nate Stupar, 42 - Travis Feeney

MLB (2) 58 - A.J. Klein, 00 - Manti Te'o, 00 - Adam Bighill

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 52 - Craig Robertson, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

LCB (2) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 46 - Ken Crawley, 43 - Jimmy Pruitt, 39 - Taveze Calhoun

FS (3) 48 - Vonn Bell, 30 - Erik Harris, 49 - Shiloh Keo, 35 - Robenson Therezie

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 37 - Chris Banjo, 00 - Forrest Hightower

RCB (3) 25 - P.J. Williams, 24 - Sterling Moore, 21 - De’Vante Harris, 27 - Damian Swann, 00 - Anthony Gaitor

KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 47 - Justin Drescher, 00 - Jesse Schmitt


Key:

Projected Starter

Free Agent Addition or Extension

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Look for Kikaha to be used on the weak side against left tackles as an edge rusher...

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We look good on paper.

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Better, at the very least...

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We look good on paper every year.

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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2017 Free Agency, Third Week :bng:

OFFENSE

QB (2) 9 - Drew Brees, 7 - Luke McCown, 18 - Garrett Grayson

FB (1) 29 - John Kuhn

RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 36 - Daniel Lasco, 38 - Travaris Cadet, 23 - Marcus Murphy

WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 11 - Corey Fuller, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 19 - Ted Ginn, 00 - Rashad Lawrence

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, LG 73 - John Fullington, 78 - Landon Turner

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 66 - Jack Allen

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 65 - Senio Kelemete

RT (2) 64 - Zach Strief

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 85 - Jake Stoneburner, 45 - Garrett Griffin

SR (2) 83 - Willie Snead, 87 - Tommylee Lewis, 81 - Jordan Williams

DEFENSE

DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 77 - D.J. Pettway, 76 - Mitchell Loewen

DT (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata, 92 - Justin Zimmer

NT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Ashaad Mabry

DE (2) 57 - Alex Okafor, 58 - Obum Gwacham, 61 - Royce LeFrance

SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 54 - Nate Stupar, 42 - Travis Feeney

MLB (2) 58 - A.J. Klein, 00 - Manti Te'o, 00 - Adam Bighill

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 52 - Craig Robertson, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

LCB (2) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 46 - Ken Crawley, 43 - Jimmy Pruitt, 39 - Taveze Calhoun

FS (3) 48 - Vonn Bell, 30 - Erik Harris, 49 - Shiloh Keo, 35 - Robenson Therezie

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 37 - Chris Banjo, 00 - Forrest Hightower

RCB (3) 25 - P.J. Williams, 24 - Sterling Moore, 21 - De’Vante Harris, 27 - Damian Swann, 00 - Anthony Gaitor

KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 00 - Jesse Schmitt


Key:

Projected Starter

Free Agent Addition or Extension

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Well, at least Fleener has something to hang his mullet; got to minimize those drive-killin' drops!

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This shows us what the best QB in Saints history can produce on a routine basis with whatever he is given. Please let him not choose to retire for another ten years. Seriously, Brees is still, and will be for the foreseeable future, an elite QB in the NFL.

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Now look at our secondary...

LCB (2) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 46 - Ken Crawley, 43 - Jimmy Pruitt, 39 - Taveze Calhoun

FS (3) 48 - Vonn Bell, 30 - Erik Harris, 49 - Shiloh Keo, 35 - Robenson Therezie

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 37 - Chris Banjo, 00 - Forrest Hightower

RCB (3) 25 - P.J. Williams, 24 - Sterling Moore, 21 - De’Vante Harris, 27 - Damian Swann, 00 - Anthony Gaitor

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And our linebackers don't look to bad either...

SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 54 - Nate Stupar, 42 - Travis Feeney

MLB (2) 58 - A.J. Klein, 00 - Manti Te'o, 00 - Adam Bighill

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 52 - Craig Robertson, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

Kikaha is a linebacker, not a defensive end; he may line up on the edge, but he's not going to anchor against the offensive line, contain the flow of a play, and force the action to the inside.

He'll be a good rush backer on sub packages, but long term, he'll have a tough time getting more playing time in this scheme which really requires four big men up front to anchor and control plays...

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My X factor going into camp will be Erik Harris. He was showing good promise prior to injury.

Side note - Vonn B will be better in year 2. He has ball hawk ability.

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Adam Bighill... it will be interesting to see how his game translates at the NFL level.

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Edit: Accidental double post.

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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2017 Free Agency :bng:

OFFENSE

QB (2) 9 - Drew Brees, 7 - Luke McCown, 18 - Garrett Grayson

FB (1) 29 - John Kuhn

RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 36 - Daniel Lasco, 38 - Travaris Cadet, 23 - Marcus Murphy

WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 11 - Corey Fuller, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 19 - Ted Ginn, 00 - Rashad Lawrence

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, LG 73 - John Fullington, 78 - Landon Turner

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 66 - Jack Allen

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 65 - Senio Kelemete

RT (2) 64 - Zach Strief

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 85 - Jake Stoneburner, 45 - Garrett Griffin

SR (2) 83 - Willie Snead, 87 - Tommylee Lewis, 81 - Jordan Williams

DEFENSE

DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 77 - D.J. Pettway, 76 - Mitchell Loewen

DT (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata, 92 - Justin Zimmer

NT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Ashaad Mabry

DE (2) 57 - Alex Okafor, 55 - Darryl Tapp , 58 - Obum Gwacham, 61 - Royce LeFrance

SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 54 - Nate Stupar, 42 - Travis Feeney

MLB (2) 58 - A.J. Klein, 00 - Manti Te'o, 00 - Adam Bighill

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 52 - Craig Robertson, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

LCB (2) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 20 - Ken Crawley, 43 - Jimmy Pruitt, 39 - Taveze Calhoun

FS (3) 48 - Vonn Bell, 30 - Erik Harris, 49 - Shiloh Keo, 35 - Robenson Therezie

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 37 - Chris Banjo, 00 - Forrest Hightower

RCB (3) 25 - P.J. Williams, 24 - Sterling Moore, 21 - De’Vante Harris, 27 - Damian Swann, 00 - Anthony Gaitor

KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 00 - Jesse Schmitt


Key:

Projected Starter

Free Agent Addition or Extension

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When I played all DBs had to have Nos. in the 40s; fullbacks could wear a no. in 40s as well...

RBs were all 30s, Wide Receivers were either in 80s, Flankers, or SlotBacks wore 20s; LBs and Centers wore 50s; though some Centers and Nose Tackles could wear "00", Offensive/Defensive Tackles wore 70s, Other DL wore 90s. Offensive Guards wore 60s. QBs wore 7-19, Kickers and Punters wore 1-6.

Game has changed some...

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Thank you Roger Godhell!:brood:

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WLB (2) 52 - Craig Robertson, 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

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Shoring up the holes on the roster...

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All things being equal...

We'll keep six (6) maybe seven (7) linebackers and each LBer will have to show at least ability at two LB positions and ST play...

I would say Ellerbe, Klein, Robertson, Stupar, Anthony are safe for now...

Kikaha has to show he's healthy...

Feeney will need to have added bulk and some skills...

Te'o has to first show he's healthy and totally outplay Klein...

Bighill would have to out play Klein, Robertson, and Te'o and be a beast on ST...

If Ellerbe comes in achy/injured and with his cap hit, then he could be in trouble...

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SLB (2) Draft

MLB (2) 58 - A.J. Klein,

WLB (2) 52 - Craig Robertson,

Dancing on the roster bubble

50 - Stephone Anthony,
59 - Dannell Ellerbe,
44 - Hau'oli Kikaha
42 - Travis Feeney
54 - Nate Stupar,
00 - Manti Te'o,
00 - Adam Bighill

I fear the saints will go all out for Tyus Bowser Just like they did for Peat, Anthony, Bell and Thomas

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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2017 Free Agency :bng:

OFFENSE

QB (2) 9 - Drew Brees, 7 - Luke McCown, 18 - Garrett Grayson

FB (1) 29 - John Kuhn

RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 36 - Daniel Lasco, 38 - Travaris Cadet, 23 - Marcus Murphy

WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 11 - Corey Fuller, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 19 - Ted Ginn, 00 - Rashad Lawrence

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, LG 73 - John Fullington, 78 - Landon Turner

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 66 - Jack Allen

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 65 - Senio Kelemete

RT (2) 64 - Zach Strief

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 85 - Jake Stoneburner, 45 - Garrett Griffin

SR (2) 83 - Willie Snead, 87 - Tommylee Lewis, 81 - Jordan Williams

DEFENSE

DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 55 - Darryl Tapp , 76 - Mitchell Loewen

DT (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata, 92 - Justin Zimmer

NT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Ashaad Mabry

DE (2) 57 - Alex Okafor, 58 - Obum Gwacham, 77 - D.J. Pettway, 61 - Royce LeFrance

SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 54 - Nate Stupar, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

MLB (2) 58 - A.J. Klein, 00 - Manti Te'o, 00 - Adam Bighill

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 52 - Craig Robertson, 42 - Travis Feeney

LCB (2) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 20 - Ken Crawley, 43 - Jimmy Pruitt, 39 - Taveze Calhoun

FS (3) 48 - Vonn Bell, 30 - Erik Harris, 49 - Shiloh Keo, 35 - Robenson Therezie

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 37 - Chris Banjo, 00 - Forrest Hightower

RCB (3) 25 - P.J. Williams, 24 - Sterling Moore, 21 - De’Vante Harris, 27 - Damian Swann, 00 - Anthony Gaitor

KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 00 - Jesse Schmitt


Key:

Projected Starter

Free Agent Addition or Extension

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Raymond is FOS, Saints don't restructure without a move...

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Or its for Snead long term deal

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Snead isn't going to cost that much...

Snead, and Vaccaro (if Saints are planning to keep him) are two guys that'll need to get extended this year...

If Vaccaro is thinking he's top ten money, then the Saints will take a Safety early and plan for life without him...

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Snead will be getting over 8ml maybe close to 10ml. The WR market has bern screwed by teams like the Rams giving silly money to WR2 and 3s.

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Snead will not be getting anywhere near 10mil/annum; Loomis would truly have lost it then...

Top No. 2 WR money is at 7mil/annum which I think he could be in that range, maybe topping out at 8mil towards the end of his contract...

His average per annum will be around 7.5 million...

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RT (2) 64 - Zach Strief and who?

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Well you've asked the question to the question...

And there's the same issue on the other side as Armstead has never played a full season...

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See all this love for defense and impact offense yet no solutions to this glaring issue?

will the saints load up on UDFA in 2017 to address the issue like they did in 2016 with OG? There are some solid UDFA OT but they are UDFA. Peat can bounce outside but LOG becomes an issue or does it? never know till they play the game.

Imagine if the saints drafted Ryan Ramczyk at 11. saints nation would go nuts. He is the best swing OT in the draft. Next one would be Garret Bolles at 32. After that I am not seeing a plug and not get killed OT in the draft.

Ryan Ramczyk is a one year wonder with a ton of hype that I still believe is better off at RT than LT in the NFL.
Garret Bolles is a bit less hype but I do love his upside. Is 32 really to high to address RT in a draft so poor in OT options.

Given the corner the saints have painted themselves into I have to say chasing a player like Garret Bolles is not so crazy.

If needed Bolles with TE/RB over sight is a safe bet to hold his own.