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jeanpierre 04-17-2017 06:34 AM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2017 Ten Days To The Draft :bng:

OFFENSE

QB (2) 9 - Drew Brees, 10 - Chase Daniel, 18 - Garrett Grayson

FB (1) 29 - John Kuhn

RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 36 - Daniel Lasco, 38 - Travaris Cadet, 23 - Marcus Murphy

WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 11 - Corey Fuller, 16 - Brandon Coleman, WR 19 - Jake Lampmann, 00 - Rashad Lawrence

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 73 - John Fullington

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 78 - Landon Turner

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 66 - Jack Allen

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 65 - Senio Kelemete

RT (2) 64 - Zach Strief

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 86 - John Phillips, 85 - Jake Stoneburner, 45 - Garrett Griffin

SR (2) 83 - Willie Snead (ERFA), 00 - Ted Ginn, 87 - Tommylee Lewis, 81 - Jordan Williams

DEFENSE

DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 55 - Darryl Tapp , 76 - Mitchell Loewen

DT (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata, 92 - Justin Zimmer

NT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Ashaad Mabry

DE (2) 57 - Alex Okafor, 58 - Obum Gwacham, 77 - D.J. Pettway, 61 - Royce LeFrance

SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 54 - Nate Stupar, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

MLB (2) 58 - A.J. Klein, 00 - Manti Te'o, 00 - Adam Bighill

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 52 - Craig Robertson, 42 - Travis Feeney

LCB (2) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 20 - Ken Crawley, 43 - Jimmy Pruitt, 39 - Taveze Calhoun

FS (3) 48 - Vonn Bell, 31 - Rafael Bush, 49 - Shiloh Keo, 35 - Robenson Therezie

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 30 - Erik Harris, 37 - Chris Banjo, 00 - Forrest Hightower

RCB (3) 25 - P.J. Williams, 24 - Sterling Moore, 21 - De’Vante Harris, 27 - Damian Swann, 00 - Anthony Gaitor

KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 00 - Jesse Schmitt


Key:

Projected Starter

Free Agent Addition or Extension

Offense - 33; Defense - 39; Kicking - 3

jeanpierre 04-17-2017 06:38 AM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART :bng:

DEFENSE

DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 55 - Darryl Tapp , 76 - Mitchell Loewen

If we started the season with Tapp backing a healthy Jordan, we're good...

DT (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata, 92 - Justin Zimmer

This is the year we should see what we got with a first rounder and new D-line Coach Ryan Nielsen was hired to make sure of it; Ony can back up all along the defensive line; really like to see the Zimmer kid make the team and have an impact, it'd allow Ony to kick outside to Defensive End, lessening that priority...

NT (2) 95 - Tyeler Davison, 90 - Nick Fairley, 96 - Ashaad Mabry

Davison will likely be the true starter as the run stuffer on early downs with Fairley rotating in on passing downs; surprised we paid that much for Fairley as a rotation guy despite his productivity; this should work, for now; Mabry has a tough up-hill road...

DE (2) 57 - Alex Okafor, 58 - Obum Gwacham, 77 - D.J. Pettway, 61 - Royce LeFrance

Okafor's health and no one backing him up make this a high draft priority; Saints should look for guys with length and athleticism like Malik McDowell, Taco Charlton, Jordan Willis, Tarell Basham, Trey Hendrickson, Tanoh Kpassagnon, even T.J. Watt...

SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 54 - Nate Stupar, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

Stupar stabilizes this position, but can new LBer Mike Nolan get Anthony back on track is the bigger question; Nolan has coached All-American and HOF linebackers over his long, proven results career - a real coup hiring him; Kikaha, if able to return from a third knee injury, is a linebacker, he doesn't have the physical frame to 'put his hand in the dirt' in the NFL; in DA's 4-3, he'll strictly be a third down sub-package pass rushing specialist.

MLB (2) 58 - A.J. Klein, 00 - Manti Te'o, 00 - Adam Bighill

Robertson could still end up winning this job, short of drafting Foster; but I'm with Hagan, Klein played like a Top 5 4-3 MLBer last season who just happened to be on the same team with Luke Kuechly; he'll also be what DA and Payton envisioned Laurinaitis was to be, but Klein will physically be available; Adam Bighill tops the unofficial Underdog List, hope he makes a great run cause I'll be pulling for him...

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 52 - Craig Robertson, 42 - Travis Feeney

Ellerbe has been the human bruise, does he finally get his poor health behind him? Utility man Robertson can cover if Ellerbe falters; Camp Watch - Travis Feeney; if Foster falls to us at No. 11, he'd likely be drafted as an WLB not as a MLB...

LCB (2) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 20 - Ken Crawley, 43 - Jimmy Pruitt, 39 - Taveze Calhoun

A healthy Del Breaux will mean a rare Pro-Bowler (maybe All-Pro) CB for the Saints; Crawley continues to develop into a fine NFL DB who can already spell in a pinch; Pruitt can also play safety...

FS (3) 48 - Vonn Bell, 31 - Rafael Bush, 49 - Shiloh Keo, 35 - Robenson Therezie

Boy that Rafael Bush really makes you feel better about the FS position; Can Bell justify his two-pick investment? Great depth and a quality special teamer in the 3rd slot with Keo...

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 30 - Erik Harris, 37 - Chris Banjo, 00 - Forrest Hightower

Contract year for Kenny V, does he finally play like the high first rounder we expected? Harris also was an early victim of the IR bug, if not, Banjo could capably back up and will be another special teams standout...

RCB (3) 25 - P.J. Williams, 24 - Sterling Moore, 21 - De’Vante Harris, 27 - Damian Swann, 00 - Anthony Gaitor

PJ has had the worst luck. Williams changes that this season and his play will warrant Pro-Bowl consideration; Sterling Moore should be the nickel slot and has a great track record against nemesis Julio Jones; De'Vante Harris with a year under his belt should push Swann out; Swann was once considered a safety prospect; either way, with the talent in this draft at CB, we still take one to improve the group...

Key:

Projected Starter

Free Agent Addition or Extension

jeanpierre 04-17-2017 10:02 AM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Got to respect a player who understands the work that has to be put in and yet understands he doesn't have to give away his leverage in contract negotiations...


jeanpierre 04-17-2017 10:21 AM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Josh Hill, Soldier...


ChrisXVI 04-17-2017 11:27 AM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
PJ Williams is a full go thank goodness!

hagan714 04-17-2017 05:41 PM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Alex Okafor i see as player that DA will use like the cards did. they lined him up all over the place. DE/OLB/ILB/DT he might be a toy for DA to use all over place. I like him when he was shooting the A gap. He was always very disruptive.

jeanpierre 04-18-2017 03:41 AM

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jeanpierre 04-18-2017 03:51 AM

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jeanpierre 04-18-2017 03:52 AM

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AsylumGuido 04-18-2017 07:52 AM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 744985)

PJ being full go doesn't surprise me at all. He was most likely full go before the season was over, but because of all the other injuries he was forced onto the IR prematurely. This is why I hope the NFL institutes an IR system somewhat like that of baseball where any player can be returned. Pat Kirwin of NFL Radio has been lobbying for that for some time now. The only reason it is the way it is now is because the NFL was worried about teams stashing away players with fake injuries. That can be easily addressed with an independent medical examiner that can give approval for players going on and coming off IR.

jeanpierre 04-18-2017 11:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 744994)
PJ being full go doesn't surprise me at all. He was most likely full go before the season was over, but because of all the other injuries he was forced onto the IR prematurely. This is why I hope the NFL institutes an IR system somewhat like that of baseball where any player can be returned. Pat Kirwin of NFL Radio has been lobbying for that for some time now. The only reason it is the way it is now is because the NFL was worried about teams stashing away players with fake injuries. That can be easily addressed with an independent medical examiner that can give approval for players going on and coming off IR.

The NFL's apprehensiveness of further litigation regarding chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE) also has to factor into post-concussion protocols...

Look, most everyone is ready to throw the towel in on PJ. Why?!? But take a second and look at that play - a horse could have kicked him with the same result...

Sean Payton in interview as quoted by Nola.com, "It's a concussion, but yet it's one significant enough that you wouldn't really see on a normal basis...He'll be able to make a full recovery. He'll be able to return to football in the offseason, and yet I would say probably one of the more severe concussions that I've seen. It's not measured by just on the field, the series of tests they do that they're able to determine how much trauma in the event, and this is one where the rest and recovery is going to be necessary. And all the experts really take a peek at all the different slides and scans, and so that made the decision then to put him on IR obviously an easy one -- and yet challenging."

I don't expect them to make an IR exemption for concussions as they could be made culpable in further litigation...

And look, P.J. has showed he's a gamer. A soldier. He'd want to get right back out there; but who's gonna assume the liability if he's out there in four to six weeks?

IR-No Return is the best answer with those concussion injuries...

I'll be really pulling for him to come back with an outstanding season like he had in the Raiders game and show that he was a steal in the third round...

jeanpierre 04-23-2017 11:34 AM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2017 NFL Draft :bng:

OFFENSE

QB (2) 9 - Drew Brees, 10 - Chase Daniel, 18 - Garrett Grayson

FB (1) 29 - John Kuhn

RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 36 - Daniel Lasco, 38 - Travaris Cadet, 23 - Marcus Murphy

WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 11 - Corey Fuller, 16 - Brandon Coleman, WR 19 - Jake Lampmann, 00 - Rashad Lawrence

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 73 - John Fullington

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 78 - Landon Turner

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 66 - Jack Allen

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 65 - Senio Kelemete

RT (2) 64 - Zach Strief

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 86 - John Phillips, 85 - Jake Stoneburner, 45 - Garrett Griffin

SR (2) 83 - Willie Snead (ERFA), 00 - Ted Ginn, 87 - Tommylee Lewis, 81 - Jordan Williams

DEFENSE

DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 55 - Darryl Tapp , 76 - Mitchell Loewen

DT (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata, 92 - Justin Zimmer

NT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Ashaad Mabry

DE (2) 57 - Alex Okafor, 58 - Obum Gwacham, 77 - D.J. Pettway, 61 - Royce LeFrance

SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 54 - Nate Stupar, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

MLB (2) 58 - A.J. Klein, 00 - Manti Te'o, 00 - Adam Bighill

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 52 - Craig Robertson, 42 - Travis Feeney

LCB (2) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 20 - Ken Crawley, 43 - Jimmy Pruitt, 39 - Taveze Calhoun

FS (3) 48 - Vonn Bell, 31 - Rafael Bush, 49 - Shiloh Keo, 35 - Robenson Therezie

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 30 - Erik Harris, 37 - Chris Banjo, 00 - Forrest Hightower

RCB (3) 25 - P.J. Williams, 24 - Sterling Moore, 21 - De’Vante Harris, 27 - Damian Swann, 00 - Anthony Gaitor

KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 00 - Jesse Schmitt


Key:

Projected Starter

Free Agent Addition or Extension

Offense - 32; Defense - 39; Kicking - 3

jeanpierre 04-25-2017 07:00 AM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Yeah, it may only be two days since update, but it's AP and thought everyone would appreciate seeing Adrian Peterson on our depth chart...


SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2017 NFL Draft :bng:

OFFENSE

QB (2) 9 - Drew Brees, 10 - Chase Daniel, 18 - Garrett Grayson

FB (1) 29 - John Kuhn

RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 28 - Adrian Peterson, 36 - Daniel Lasco, 38 - Travaris Cadet, 23 - Marcus Murphy

WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 11 - Corey Fuller, 16 - Brandon Coleman, WR 19 - Jake Lampmann, 00 - Rashad Lawrence

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 73 - John Fullington

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 78 - Landon Turner

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 66 - Jack Allen

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 65 - Senio Kelemete

RT (2) 64 - Zach Strief

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 86 - John Phillips, 85 - Jake Stoneburner, 45 - Garrett Griffin

SR (2) 83 - Willie Snead (ERFA), 00 - Ted Ginn, 87 - Tommylee Lewis, 81 - Jordan Williams

DEFENSE

DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 55 - Darryl Tapp , 76 - Mitchell Loewen

DT (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata, 92 - Justin Zimmer

NT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Ashaad Mabry

DE (2) 57 - Alex Okafor, 58 - Obum Gwacham, 77 - D.J. Pettway, 61 - Royce LeFrance

SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 54 - Nate Stupar, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

MLB (2) 58 - A.J. Klein, 00 - Manti Te'o, 00 - Adam Bighill

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 52 - Craig Robertson, 42 - Travis Feeney

LCB (2) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 20 - Ken Crawley, 43 - Jimmy Pruitt, 39 - Taveze Calhoun

FS (3) 48 - Vonn Bell, 31 - Rafael Bush, 49 - Shiloh Keo, 35 - Robenson Therezie

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 30 - Erik Harris, 37 - Chris Banjo, 00 - Forrest Hightower

RCB (3) 25 - P.J. Williams, 24 - Sterling Moore, 21 - De’Vante Harris, 27 - Damian Swann, 00 - Anthony Gaitor

KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 00 - Jesse Schmitt


Key:

Projected Starter

Free Agent Addition or Extension

Offense - 32; Defense - 39; Kicking - 3

jeanpierre 04-27-2017 10:51 PM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Draft Day - Day One, Day Two...

SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2017 NFL Draft :bng:

OFFENSE

QB (2) 9 - Drew Brees, 10 - Chase Daniel, 18 - Garrett Grayson

FB (1) 29 - John Kuhn

RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 28 - Adrian Peterson, 00 - Alvin Kamara (R3, P67), 36 - Daniel Lasco, 38 - Travaris Cadet, 23 - Marcus Murphy

WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 11 - Corey Fuller, 16 - Brandon Coleman, WR 19 - Jake Lampmann, 00 - Rashad Lawrence

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 73 - John Fullington, 78 - Landon Turner

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 66 - Jack Allen

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 65 - Senio Kelemete

RT (2) 64 - Zach Strief, 65 - Ryan Ramcyzk (R1, P32)

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 86 - John Phillips, 85 - Jake Stoneburner, 45 - Garrett Griffin

SR (2) 83 - Willie Snead (ERFA), 00 - Ted Ginn, 87 - Tommylee Lewis, 81 - Jordan Williams

DEFENSE

DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 55 - Darryl Tapp , 76 - Mitchell Loewen

DT (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata, 92 - Justin Zimmer

NT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Ashaad Mabry

DE (2) 97 - Alex Okafor, 99 -Trey Hendrickson (R3, P103), 58 - Obum Gwacham, 77 - D.J. Pettway, 61 - Royce LeFrance

SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 54 - Nate Stupar, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

MLB (2) 58 - A.J. Klein, 00 - Alex Anzalone (R3, P76), 00 - Manti Te'o, 00 - Adam Bighill

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 52 - Craig Robertson, 42 - Travis Feeney

LCB (2) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 20 - Ken Crawley, 43 - Jimmy Pruitt, 39 - Taveze Calhoun

FS (3) 20 - Marcus Williams (R2, P42), 31 - Rafael Bush, 49 - Shiloh Keo, 35 - Robenson Therezie

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 48 - Vonn Bell, 37 - Chris Banjo, 30 - Erik Harris, 00 - Forrest Hightower

RCB (3) 2 - Marshon Lattimore (R1, P11), 25 - P.J. Williams, 24 - Sterling Moore, 21 - De’Vante Harris, 27 - Damian Swann, 00 - Anthony Gaitor

KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 00 - Jesse Schmitt


Key:

Projected Starter

Free Agent Addition or Extension

Rookie (Acquired)

Offense - 33; Defense - 41; Kicking - 3

jeanpierre 04-28-2017 10:50 PM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2017 NFL Draft :bng:

OFFENSE

QB (2) 9 - Drew Brees, 10 - Chase Daniel, 18 - Garrett Grayson

FB (1) 29 - John Kuhn

RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 28 - Adrian Peterson, 00 - Alvin Kamara (R3, P67), 36 - Daniel Lasco, 38 - Travaris Cadet, 23 - Marcus Murphy

WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 11 - Corey Fuller, 16 - Brandon Coleman, WR 19 - Jake Lampmann, 00 - Rashad Lawrence

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 73 - John Fullington, 78 - Landon Turner

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 66 - Jack Allen

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 65 - Senio Kelemete

RT (2) 64 - Zach Strief, 65 - Ryan Ramcyzk (R1, P32)

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 86 - John Phillips, 85 - Jake Stoneburner, 45 - Garrett Griffin

SR (2) 83 - Willie Snead (ERFA), 00 - Ted Ginn, 87 - Tommylee Lewis, 81 - Jordan Williams


Key:

Projected Starter

Free Agent Addition or Extension

Rookie (Acquired)

jeanpierre 04-28-2017 10:53 PM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2017 NFL Draft :bng:

DEFENSE

DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 55 - Darryl Tapp , 76 - Mitchell Loewen

DT (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata, 92 - Justin Zimmer

NT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Ashaad Mabry

DE (2) 97 - Alex Okafor, 99 -Trey Hendrickson (R3, P103), 58 - Obum Gwacham, 77 - D.J. Pettway, 61 - Royce LeFrance

SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 54 - Nate Stupar, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

MLB (2) 58 - A.J. Klein, 00 - Alex Anzalone (R3, P76), 00 - Manti Te'o, 00 - Adam Bighill

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 52 - Craig Robertson, 42 - Travis Feeney

LCB (2) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 20 - Ken Crawley, 43 - Jimmy Pruitt, 39 - Taveze Calhoun

FS (3) 20 - Marcus Williams (R2, P42), 31 - Rafael Bush, 49 - Shiloh Keo, 35 - Robenson Therezie

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 48 - Vonn Bell, 37 - Chris Banjo, 30 - Erik Harris, 00 - Forrest Hightower

RCB (3) 2 - Marshon Lattimore (R1, P11), 25 - P.J. Williams, 24 - Sterling Moore, 21 - De’Vante Harris, 27 - Damian Swann, 00 - Anthony Gaitor


Key:

Projected Starter

Free Agent Addition or Extension

Rookie (Acquired)

Seer1 04-29-2017 11:41 AM

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If Nolan can't get Anthony turned around, it sounds like Anzalone should have no trouble stepping in there if his injury problems are truly behind him. In fact, between Ellerbe's love of the trainers and Anthony's regression, he could be seeing a lot of playing time.

jeanpierre 04-30-2017 02:27 PM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Post-Draft, Day+1

SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2017 NFL Draft :bng:

OFFENSE

QB (2) 9 - Drew Brees, 10 - Chase Daniel, 18 - Garrett Grayson

FB (1) 29 - John Kuhn, 00 - John Robinson (UDFA),

RB (4) 22 - Mark Ingram, 28 - Adrian Peterson, 00 - Alvin Kamara (R3, P67), 36 - Daniel Lasco, 38 - Travaris Cadet, 23 - Marcus Murphy

WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 11 - Corey Fuller, 16 - Brandon Coleman, WR 19 - Jake Lampmann, 00 - Rashad Lawrence, 00 - Ahmad Fulwood (UDFA)

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 00 - Andrew Lauderdale (UDFA), 00 - Cameron Lee (UDFA), 00 - Collin Buchanan (UDFA)

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 73 - John Fullington, 78 - Landon Turner

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 66 - Jack Allen, 00 - Cameron Tom (UDFA)

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 65 - Senio Kelemete, 00 - Cameron Lee (UDFA)

RT (2) 64 - Zach Strief, 65 - Ryan Ramcyzk (R1, P32), 00 - Clint VanHorn (UDFA)

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 86 - John Phillips, 85 - Jake Stoneburner, 45 - Garrett Griffin

SR (2) 83 - Willie Snead (ERFA), 00 - Ted Ginn, 87 - Tommylee Lewis, 81 - Jordan Williams, 00 - Travin Dural (UDFA)

DEFENSE

DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 99 -Trey Hendrickson (R3, P103), 55 - Darryl Tapp , 76 - Mitchell Loewen

DT (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata, 92 - Justin Zimmer, 00 - Devaroe Lawrence (UDFA)

NT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Ashaad Mabry

DE (2) 97 - Alex Okafor, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha, 58 - Obum Gwacham, 77 - D.J. Pettway, 61 - Royce LeFrance

SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 54 - Nate Stupar, 00 - Sae Tautu (UDFA)

MLB (3) 52 - Craig Robertson, 58 - A.J. Klein, 00 - Manti Te'o, 00 - Adam Bighill

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 00 - Alex Anzalone (R3, P76), 42 - Travis Feeney

LCB (2) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 20 - Ken Crawley, 37 - Chris Banjo, 43 - Jimmy Pruitt, 39 - Taveze Calhoun, 00 - Arthur Maulet (UDFA)

FS (3) 20 - Marcus Williams (R2, P42), 31 - Rafael Bush, 49 - Shiloh Keo, 35 - Robenson Therezie

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 48 - Vonn Bell, 30 - Erik Harris, 00 - Forrest Hightower

RCB (3) 25 - P.J. Williams, 00 - Marshon Lattimore (R1, P11), 24 - Sterling Moore, 21 - De’Vante Harris, 27 - Damian Swann, 00 - Anthony Gaitor

KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 00 - Jesse Schmitt, 00 - Chase Dominguez (UDFA)


Key:

Projected Starter

Free Agent Addition or Extension

Rookie (Acquired)

Offense - 44; Defense - 46; Kicking - 4

|Mitch| 04-30-2017 02:30 PM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
one problem I see jeanpierre Payton has said he sees Anzalone as a weakside LB for us.

Seer1 04-30-2017 02:31 PM

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You have Te'o listed in the middle. How does he do working the sides?

|Mitch| 04-30-2017 02:32 PM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Oh and that secondary is looking nice

rezburna 04-30-2017 07:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 748395)
You have Te'o listed in the middle. How does he do working the sides?

He was a SLB in the 4-3 at Notre Dame before they went to a 3-4. I think we're going to see a lot of rotating on defense this year the same way we do our offense. I've noticed the biggest improvement is depth. We have a lot of depth and potential at every level now. Plenty of extra bodies.

rezburna 04-30-2017 07:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 748392)
Post-Draft, Day+1

SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2017 NFL Draft :bng:

OFFENSE

QB (2) 9 - Drew Brees, 10 - Chase Daniel, 18 - Garrett Grayson

FB (1) 29 - John Kuhn, 00 - John Robinson (UDFA),

RB (4) 22 - Mark Ingram, 28 - Adrian Peterson, 00 - Alvin Kamara (R3, P67), 36 - Daniel Lasco, 38 - Travaris Cadet, 23 - Marcus Murphy

WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 11 - Corey Fuller, 16 - Brandon Coleman, WR 19 - Jake Lampmann, 00 - Rashad Lawrence, 00 - Ahmad Fulwood (UDFA)

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 00 - Andrew Lauderdale (UDFA), 00 - Cameron Lee (UDFA), 00 - Collin Buchanan (UDFA)

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 73 - John Fullington, 78 - Landon Turner

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 66 - Jack Allen, 00 - Cameron Tom (UDFA)

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 65 - Senio Kelemete, 00 - Cameron Lee (UDFA)

RT (2) 64 - Zach Strief, 65 - Ryan Ramcyzk (R1, P32), 00 - Clint VanHorn (UDFA)

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 86 - John Phillips, 85 - Jake Stoneburner, 45 - Garrett Griffin

SR (2) 83 - Willie Snead (ERFA), 00 - Ted Ginn, 87 - Tommylee Lewis, 81 - Jordan Williams, 00 - Travin Dural (UDFA)

DEFENSE

DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 99 -Trey Hendrickson (R3, P103), 55 - Darryl Tapp , 76 - Mitchell Loewen

DT (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata, 92 - Justin Zimmer, 00 - Devaroe Lawrence (UDFA)

NT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Ashaad Mabry

DE (2) 97 - Alex Okafor, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha, 58 - Obum Gwacham, 77 - D.J. Pettway, 61 - Royce LeFrance

SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 54 - Nate Stupar, 00 - Sae Tautu (UDFA)

MLB (3) 52 - Craig Robertson, 58 - A.J. Klein, 00 - Manti Te'o, 00 - Adam Bighill

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 00 - Alex Anzalone (R3, P76), 42 - Travis Feeney

LCB (2) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 20 - Ken Crawley, 37 - Chris Banjo, 43 - Jimmy Pruitt, 39 - Taveze Calhoun, 00 - Arthur Maulet (UDFA)

FS (3) 20 - Marcus Williams (R2, P42), 31 - Rafael Bush, 49 - Shiloh Keo, 35 - Robenson Therezie

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 48 - Vonn Bell, 30 - Erik Harris, 00 - Forrest Hightower

RCB (3) 25 - P.J. Williams, 00 - Marshon Lattimore (R1, P11), 24 - Sterling Moore, 21 - De’Vante Harris, 27 - Damian Swann, 00 - Anthony Gaitor

KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 00 - Jesse Schmitt, 00 - Chase Dominguez (UDFA)


Key:

Projected Starter

Free Agent Addition or Extension

Rookie (Acquired)

Offense - 44; Defense - 46; Kicking - 4

You do a really great job of keeping this updated. I appreciate it.

saintsfan1976 05-01-2017 06:52 AM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
We should bring Michael Floyd into camp.

Seer1 05-01-2017 07:17 AM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 748459)
We should bring Michael Floyd into camp.

Didn't seem very productive last year.

jeanpierre 05-01-2017 07:25 AM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 748459)
We should bring Michael Floyd into camp.

Dry him out in New Orleans? He's definitely got the physical talent...

jeanpierre 05-01-2017 07:50 AM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 748429)
He was a SLB in the 4-3 at Notre Dame before they went to a 3-4. I think we're going to see a lot of rotating on defense this year the same way we do our offense. I've noticed the biggest improvement is depth. We have a lot of depth and potential at every level now. Plenty of extra bodies.

Reading Rez's post got me to thinking...

Remember just a few short seasons ago when we were all beating our chest over our second best defensive lineman, Akiem Hicks???

That's why I like doing the depth chart, you can really see the progression and potential problem areas...

ChrisXVI 05-01-2017 08:19 AM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
We look pretty much set in the secondary.

CB: Lattimore, Breaux, Williams, Moore, Crawley
FS: Williams, Bush
SS: Vacarro, Bell, Harris

Vacarro, Bell and Harris all have the ability to play that nickel CB/Sam LB hybrid position so I wouldn't worry too much about how those CB's are more boundary-type players (with the exception of Moore.)

jeanpierre 05-01-2017 08:42 AM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 748466)
We look pretty much set in the secondary.

CB: Lattimore, Breaux, Williams, Moore, Crawley
FS: Williams, Bush
SS: Vacarro, Bell, Harris

Vacarro, Bell and Harris all have the ability to play that nickel CB/Sam LB hybrid position so I wouldn't worry too much about how those CB's are more boundary-type players (with the exception of Moore.)

Chris, I'm not sold that Harris is making this roster just yet; he's gonna have to beat out Shiloh Keo who's a special team ace...

Now, he's definitely got the goods, but health, max effort, and no bad luck are gonna play into it...

And I wouldn't count out De'Vante Harris just yet...

ChrisXVI 05-01-2017 09:12 AM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 748469)
Chris, I'm not sold that Harris is making this roster just yet; he's gonna have to beat out Shiloh Keo who's a special team ace...

Now, he's definitely got the goods, but health, max effort, and no bad luck are gonna play into it...

And I wouldn't count out De'Vante Harris just yet...

Yeah, now that I think about it you're right about Keo. He would have the edge with Harris still recovering from the ACL tear.

K Major 05-01-2017 03:58 PM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
For a split second I forgot about Damian Swann.

jeanpierre 05-01-2017 04:01 PM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 748540)
For a split second I forgot about Damian Swann.

Don't be surprised if DA gives him a strong look at free safety before moving on from him...

ChrisXVI 05-01-2017 06:40 PM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

saintsfan1976 05-01-2017 07:20 PM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Supposedly Ellerbe was used to rush the QB more often last year. Look for 00 - Alex Anzalone (R3, P76) to be our new "rush LB".

I'm getting excited at this prospect...

brees84 05-01-2017 07:37 PM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 748571)
Supposedly Ellerbe was used to rush the QB more often last year. Look for 00 - Alex Anzalone (R3, P76) to be our new "rush LB".

I'm getting excited at this prospect...


Ellerbe was great in that role. Looked like a legit pass rusher.
Could be good mentor to our young LBs.

rezburna 05-01-2017 08:09 PM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 748574)
Ellerbe was great in that role. Looked like a legit pass rusher.
Could be good mentor to our young LBs.

With the addition of all these linebackers we could move him down and use him as a situational pass rusher. Maybe then he'll play a whole season.

jeanpierre 05-01-2017 08:22 PM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Ellerbe, when rushing the passer, technically was in a blitz, which is why he was effective...

jeanpierre 05-01-2017 08:30 PM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Post-Draft, Day+2

SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2017 NFL Draft :bng:

OFFENSE

QB (2) 9 - Drew Brees, 10 - Chase Daniel, 18 - Garrett Grayson

FB (1) 29 - John Kuhn, 00 - John Robinson (UDFA),

RB (4) 22 - Mark Ingram, 28 - Adrian Peterson, 00 - Alvin Kamara (R3, P67), 36 - Daniel Lasco, 38 - Travaris Cadet, 23 - Marcus Murphy

WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 11 - Corey Fuller, 16 - Brandon Coleman, WR 19 - Jake Lampmann, 00 - Rashad Lawrence, 00 - Ahmad Fulwood (UDFA)

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 00 - Andrew Lauderdale (UDFA), 00 - Cameron Lee (UDFA), 00 - Collin Buchanan (UDFA)

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 73 - John Fullington, 78 - Landon Turner

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 66 - Jack Allen, 00 - Cameron Tom (UDFA)

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 65 - Senio Kelemete, 00 - Cameron Lee (UDFA)

RT (2) 64 - Zach Strief, 65 - Ryan Ramcyzk (R1, P32), 00 - Clint VanHorn (UDFA)

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 86 - John Phillips, 85 - Jake Stoneburner, 45 - Garrett Griffin

SR (2) 83 - Willie Snead (ERFA), 00 - Ted Ginn, 87 - Tommylee Lewis, 81 - Jordan Williams, 00 - Travin Dural (UDFA)

DEFENSE

DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 99 -Trey Hendrickson (R3, P103), 55 - Darryl Tapp , 76 - Mitchell Loewen

DT (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata, 92 - Justin Zimmer, 00 - Devaroe Lawrence (UDFA)

NT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Ashaad Mabry

DE (2) 97 - Alex Okafor, 00 -Al-Quadin Muhammad (R6, P196), 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha, 58 - Obum Gwacham, 61 - Royce LeFrance

SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 54 - Nate Stupar, 00 - Sae Tautu (UDFA)

MLB (3) 52 - Craig Robertson, 58 - A.J. Klein, 00 - Manti Te'o, 00 - Adam Bighill

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 00 - Alex Anzalone (R3, P76), 42 - Travis Feeney

LCB (2) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 20 - Ken Crawley, 37 - Chris Banjo, 39 - Taveze Calhoun, 00 - Arthur Maulet (UDFA)

FS (3) 20 - Marcus Williams (R2, P42), 31 - Rafael Bush, 49 - Shiloh Keo, 35 - Robenson Therezie

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 48 - Vonn Bell, 30 - Erik Harris, 00 - Forrest Hightower

RCB (3) 25 - P.J. Williams, 00 - Marshon Lattimore (R1, P11), 24 - Sterling Moore, 21 - De’Vante Harris, 27 - Damian Swann, 00 - Anthony Gaitor

KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 00 - Jesse Schmitt, 00 - Chase Dominguez (UDFA)


Key:

Projected Starter

Free Agent Addition or Extension

Rookie (Acquired)

Roster Count - Offense: 44; Defense: 45; Kicking: 4

Seer1 05-01-2017 08:31 PM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 748587)
Ellerbe, when rushing the passer, technically was in a blitz, which is why he was effective...

Remembering back to Greggor's days: just because it's a blitz,that doesn't make it effective.

jeanpierre 05-02-2017 08:16 AM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 748589)
Remembering back to Greggor's days: just because it's a blitz,that doesn't make it effective.

Well, it's also effective when Ellerbe is actually "available."


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