Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED

spkb25 · 01-05-2017, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

How can that be considered narrow minded? He listed games which I agree the offense lost for us, but also agreed the defense wasn't good in the other games.

If anyone is narrow minded, it's the ones that absolutely refuse to blame the offense, even when they turn the ball over 4 times in a game.

It is literally as if they have no ability to objectively judge.

NonieT · 01-05-2017, 09:12 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

How can that be considered narrow minded? He listed games which I agree the offense lost for us, but also agreed the defense wasn't good in the other games.

If anyone is narrow minded, it's the ones that absolutely refuse to blame the offense, even when they turn the ball over 4 times in a game.

Originally Posted by spkb25

It is literally as if they have no ability to objectively judge.

No one is saying the offense isn't to blame. We merely state that we need a defense to pick up the slack. YOU CANNOT EXPECT THE OFFENSE TO BE PERFECT ALL OF THE TIME. As someone has already said teams with good defenses and ST do not lose when the offense falters.

AsylumGuido · 01-05-2017, 09:22 PM

Originally Posted by NonieT

No one is saying the offense isn't to blame. We merely state that we need a defense to pick up the slack. YOU CANNOT EXPECT THE OFFENSE TO BE PERFECT ALL OF THE TIME. As someone has already said teams with good defenses and ST do not lose when the offense falters.

Yes! That is what I am trying to say.

WillSaints81 · 01-06-2017, 12:34 AM

Originally Posted by NonieT

No one is saying the offense isn't to blame. We merely state that we need a defense to pick up the slack. YOU CANNOT EXPECT THE OFFENSE TO BE PERFECT ALL OF THE TIME. As someone has already said teams with good defenses and ST do not lose when the offense falters.

So how were the saints defense supposed to win that game against the giants with the offense scoring just 13 points and holding them to no TDs? How were they supposed to win scoring just 23 points against Denver? What were they supposed to do, take the offense out of fg range? It's just tough kittens they lost at KC right? So a fg was blocked by Carolina. The offense still would have been down 23-9 going into the fourth. If anything it's a tie and going to OT.

In 2009 sb year
Lions............27
Eagles..........20
bills.............7
jets............10
giants...........20
dolphins.......34
falcons..........27
panthers.......20
rams..............23(yes, the 1-15 rams)
bucs............7
[/b]patriots....17[/b]
Washington....30
falcons...........24(against a backup qb)
cowboys.........24
bucs................20
panthers.........21

So beside a showboat game against NE, only Mark Sanchez, Trent Edwards, and Josh Freeman we held to less than 20 points. Such great QBs that's why they are starting.

01-05-2017, 08:38 PM	#1
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,115	Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED Originally Posted by dizzle88 How can that be considered narrow minded? He listed games which I agree the offense lost for us, but also agreed the defense wasn't good in the other games. If anyone is narrow minded, it's the ones that absolutely refuse to blame the offense, even when they turn the ball over 4 times in a game. It is literally as if they have no ability to objectively judge.

01-05-2017, 09:12 PM	#2
NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED Originally Posted by dizzle88 How can that be considered narrow minded? He listed games which I agree the offense lost for us, but also agreed the defense wasn't good in the other games. If anyone is narrow minded, it's the ones that absolutely refuse to blame the offense, even when they turn the ball over 4 times in a game. Originally Posted by spkb25 It is literally as if they have no ability to objectively judge. No one is saying the offense isn't to blame. We merely state that we need a defense to pick up the slack. YOU CANNOT EXPECT THE OFFENSE TO BE PERFECT ALL OF THE TIME. As someone has already said teams with good defenses and ST do not lose when the offense falters.
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01-05-2017, 09:22 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED Originally Posted by NonieT No one is saying the offense isn't to blame. We merely state that we need a defense to pick up the slack. YOU CANNOT EXPECT THE OFFENSE TO BE PERFECT ALL OF THE TIME. As someone has already said teams with good defenses and ST do not lose when the offense falters. Yes! That is what I am trying to say.

01-06-2017, 12:34 AM	#4
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED Originally Posted by NonieT No one is saying the offense isn't to blame. We merely state that we need a defense to pick up the slack. YOU CANNOT EXPECT THE OFFENSE TO BE PERFECT ALL OF THE TIME. As someone has already said teams with good defenses and ST do not lose when the offense falters. So how were the saints defense supposed to win that game against the giants with the offense scoring just 13 points and holding them to no TDs? How were they supposed to win scoring just 23 points against Denver? What were they supposed to do, take the offense out of fg range? It's just tough kittens they lost at KC right? So a fg was blocked by Carolina. The offense still would have been down 23-9 going into the fourth. If anything it's a tie and going to OT. In 2009 sb year Lions............27 Eagles..........20 bills.............7 jets............10 giants...........20 dolphins.......34 falcons..........27 panthers.......20 rams..............23(yes, the 1-15 rams) bucs............7 [/b]patriots....17[/b] Washington....30 falcons...........24(against a backup qb) cowboys.........24 bucs................20 panthers.........21 So beside a showboat game against NE, only Mark Sanchez, Trent Edwards, and Josh Freeman we held to less than 20 points. Such great QBs that's why they are starting.

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