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jeanpierre 01-30-2019 09:14 AM
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These were the Futures Contracts ICYMI...

K Major 01-30-2019 09:38 AM
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Find another DE for depth. You can never have enough pass rushers.

K Major 01-30-2019 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 836601)
This is pretty much all I have for a wishlist:


SS Tyrann Mathieu
I'd welcome the move however he's played a lot of slot corner (probably why Saints didn't call him post PRob signing) over the last year.

He's a beast when healthy (2 ACL tears) though. Just don't see him signing in NO.

jeanpierre 01-30-2019 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 836976)
Find another DE for depth. You can never have enough pass rushers.
You know I'm not disagreeing with the back half of that statment, but you're saying move on from Okafor?

We have Cam Jordan, Marcus Davenport, and Trey Hendrickson under contract...

jeanpierre 01-30-2019 10:21 AM
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K Major 01-30-2019 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 836990)
You know I'm not disagreeing with the back half of that statment, but you're saying move on from Okafor?
Possibly. Oak is very good veteran depth that can start. Over the years I've noticed that the Saints FO has been very loyal to players ... even to a fault. Meanwhile pre injury, Davenport (pretty vicious run defender) was on his way to becoming a monster. I'd like him to take over that spot in 2019.

I continue to believe that he (MD) is the future coming off the edge.

jeanpierre 01-31-2019 12:51 PM
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jeanpierre 01-31-2019 02:45 PM
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We've got a little change leftover from this past season...

jeanpierre 01-31-2019 08:21 PM
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Speaking of...

jeanpierre 02-01-2019 04:40 PM
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ChrisXVI 02-01-2019 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 837171)
Supposedly Stephen Ross is all-in on getting Tua Tagovailoa so the Dolphins will be tanking this year and starting fresh in ‘20.

jeanpierre 02-01-2019 05:31 PM
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Tua isn't so impressive when that incredible Bama line faces worthy competition...

saintsfan1976 02-01-2019 08:35 PM
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Ryan Tannehill?

ChrisXVI 02-01-2019 08:57 PM
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Yes sir! Go all out.

CheramieIII 02-02-2019 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 836806)
No way CheramieIII. There will be upgrades.
Like I said if we trade up again this year it will be for a TE.

saintsfan1976 02-02-2019 06:54 AM
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McCoy in rotation sure. But I’m going “all out” for him

jeanpierre 02-02-2019 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 837190)
Ryan Tannehill?
Be foolish not to bring him in for a look...

K Major 02-02-2019 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 837266)
Be foolish not to bring him in for a look...
Ryan has been over hyped since his junior year at Texas A&M. All I see is a nice back up/solid #2 at best.

shawnkytonk 02-02-2019 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 836599)
Brate is an active, good No. 2 TE, so is Josh Hill; also we just committed some coin to Hill so we won't be signing a TE to another No. 2 Tight End...
Why in the world would you want Jesse James then? Brate is a much more established TE.

jeanpierre 02-02-2019 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by shawnkytonk (Post 837283)
Why in the world would you want Jesse James then? Brate is a much more established TE.
Established? Bucs kept rolling out O.J. Howard instead of Brate...

Plus, if Payton had liked Brate that much, why'd we let him get out of the house?!?

jeanpierre 02-02-2019 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 837270)
Ryan has been over hyped since his junior year at Texas A&M. All I see is a nice back up/solid #2 at best.
And that's all I'm saying we should view him as if he were signed; factor experience, Payton offense boost, he'd be better than Bridgewater or the Greatest Overpaid Backup in League History, Chase Daniels...

saintsfan1976 02-03-2019 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 837270)
Ryan has been over hyped since his junior year at Texas A&M. All I see is a nice back up/solid #2 at best.
That’s my point. If Bridgewater is gone we’ll need a #2.

jeanpierre 02-03-2019 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 836993)
Possibly. Oak is very good veteran depth that can start. Over the years I've noticed that the Saints FO has been very loyal to players ... even to a fault. Meanwhile pre injury, Davenport (pretty vicious run defender) was on his way to becoming a monster. I'd like him to take over that spot in 2019.

I continue to believe that he (MD) is the future coming off the edge.
For what Payton's invested with him, I agree, he should be starting...

Why wouldn't you pay Okafor to stick around as a rotation/reserve/depth while you can afford it with Davenport in a rookie contract?

We'd return all four of our edge rushers and could focus on fewer positions...

shawnkytonk 02-03-2019 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 837305)
Established? Bucs kept rolling out O.J. Howard instead of Brate...

Plus, if Payton had liked Brate that much, why'd we let him get out of the house?!?
You're excluding the years before Howard when Brate was the #1 guy and a pretty decent TD machine in the redzone. I'm in no way advocating a Brate signing, but I stand by my statement that he's way more of an established presence than James. James sparks zero excitement in anyway.

jeanpierre 02-03-2019 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by shawnkytonk (Post 837356)
You're excluding the years before Howard when Brate was the #1 guy and a pretty decent TD machine in the redzone. I'm in no way advocating a Brate signing, but I stand by my statement that he's way more of an established presence than James. James sparks zero excitement in anyway.
Blocking. You're forgetting about blocking which Brate is not built to do. Drafting an offensive lineman isn't exciting, but it wins games...

Go back and look and when the Steelers were running teams into the ground, you'll find Jesse James blocking and making a complimentary reception...

That's what you need a complimentary player that doesn't break the bank...

jeanpierre 02-04-2019 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 837320)
That’s my point. If Bridgewater is gone we’ll need a #2.
Bridgewater is supposed to be the target of both the Jags and Dolphins, which I buy that theory - that may also net us a No. 3 compensatory pick in 2020...

Tanneyhill could be attracted to come in on a short-term two year deal to learn from Payton, Brees and then reboot somewhere afterwards...

The guy is good enough to win in short stretches, should that need arise - it's not like this offense isn't without teeth when Brees takes a breather...

Could you imagine us gaining a starter as a reserve and a Rd 3 pick for giving up a 3rd rounder and our backup? That'd be a sweet save...

jeanpierre 02-04-2019 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 837197)
Like I said if we trade up again this year it will be for a TE.
Bite your tongue - Don't geaux encouraging Payton so he can get off early and go play golf...

K Major 02-04-2019 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by shawnkytonk (Post 837283)
Why in the world would you want Jesse James then? Brate is a much more established TE.
I'd be fine with either. Gotta believe in clutch moments (see Rams NFCCG), James makes a crucial catch or keep the chains moving.

jeanpierre 02-04-2019 08:56 AM
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jeanpierre 02-04-2019 01:23 PM
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jeanpierre 02-04-2019 01:24 PM
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jeanpierre 02-04-2019 01:26 PM
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jeanpierre 02-04-2019 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 837477)
I'd be fine with either. Gotta believe in clutch moments (see Rams NFCCG), James makes a crucial catch or keep the chains moving.
Don't be too hard on Arnold, only a rookie on limited snap counts, active games - he's gonna make you proud...

jeanpierre 02-04-2019 01:31 PM
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ChrisXVI 02-04-2019 03:24 PM
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ChrisXVI 02-04-2019 05:02 PM
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The Eagles are way over the salary cap and one player they could release (freeing up about $3 million) is G/C Stefen Wisniewski. I’d love to bring him in for the 6th man role on the interior.

saintsfan1976 02-04-2019 07:10 PM
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Gotta believe a healthy Dez and Meredith foxes our WR corps. Someone said shifty, slot guy. That would be TLL in my mind.

jeanpierre 02-05-2019 09:25 AM
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K Major 02-05-2019 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 837635)
A lot of good players here. Hell, I'd take Chris Hogan over TLL.

Saints desperately need a vet/slot guy who can create separation. Mike Thomas gets doubled, it's over.

jeanpierre 02-05-2019 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 837639)
A lot of good players here. Hell, I'd take Chris Hogan over TLL.

Saints desperately need a vet/slot guy who can create separation. Mike Thomas gets doubled, it's over.
Agree with bringing in Hogan and/or Humphries - guys that are ultra-reliable doing their jobs, in being where they're suppose to be - guys that Brees can trust!


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