2019 Saints NFL Draft

dizzle88 · 04-26-2019, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

I'm really not crazy about taking a WR in the second round as deep and talented as this draft is at that position...

Defensive End, Corner back, Starting Guard, Safety are what I'm looking to add...

And I don't trust a guy with two last names...

As much as I agree that those positions need addressing, the team failed last year because the offense couldn't convert in times of need. As soon as teams started taking Kamara and Thomas out of the game, we relied on guys like Kirkwood, Tre'Quan, Carr, Lewis and Arnold - who all proved that they could not compete come playoff time.

Only guy that helped us was Ted Ginn, but those guys had a ton of opportunities to be "the" guy in crunch time and failed.

That's why I think another WR is very high on our list of needs.

jeanpierre · 04-26-2019, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

As much as I agree that those positions need addressing, the team failed last year because the offense couldn't convert in times of need. As soon as teams started taking Kamara and Thomas out of the game, we relied on guys like Kirkwood, Tre'Quan, Carr, Lewis and Arnold - who all proved that they could not compete come playoff time.

Only guy that helped us was Ted Ginn, but those guys had a ton of opportunities to be "the" guy in crunch time and failed.

That's why I think another WR is very high on our list of needs.

With the exception of Tommylee, everyone of those guys you named have one thing in common - they were all in their first full season in the NFL...

Now they've got a full season and a full offseason, now no longer starstruck, go into the office each day with Hey, Drew instead of OMG, I can't believe that's Drew Brees...

Everyone of those guys except for the diminutive Tommylee Lewis who can't offer sh!t on punt returns (or doesn't really want to) will likely make this team and make some impressive plays on the Run to the Lombardi...

foreverfan · 04-26-2019, 12:08 PM

Did anybody watch that video above of Jose Joaquin Arcega-Whiteside catching the ball? He looks like Michael Thomas and Jimmy Graham.

shawnkytonk · 04-26-2019, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by foreverfan

Did anybody watch that video above of Jose Joaquin Arcega-Whiteside catching the ball? He looks like Michael Thomas and Jimmy Graham.

Yes. And there's something to be said about football players who were basketball players as well.

CheramieIII · 04-26-2019, 12:31 PM

OK here's my updated first pick for the Saints:

Option 1

We pick Parris Campbell, WR, Ohio State

Option 2

We pick Irv Smith, TE, Alabama

and no trade up. It would cost us too much and the picks will be worth a lot more to us in 2020.

K Major · 04-26-2019, 01:33 PM

Yeah I've ready good things about J.J.

Any player with complete body control to catch & when the ball is in the air, they win most of the battles.

Who in their right mind wouldn't want 2 MICHAEL THOMAS (JJ looks the part) on the same team at WR come playoff time???

Circle back to the NFCCG ... once Talib put the clamps on MT, it was over. He had no help to pick up the slack & keep the chains moving.

CheramieIII · 04-26-2019, 01:35 PM

I don't think JJ will be available but Campbell and Ridley might.

K Major · 04-26-2019, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by CheramieIII

I don't think JJ will be available but Campbell and Ridley might.

I like Ridley a lot and I won't discount Parris either (assuming they are available). Parris is a good route runner and I'm sure Urban Myer has had lengthy conversations with SPayton on his potential at the next level.

We shall see.

foreverfan · 04-26-2019, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by CheramieIII

I don't think JJ will be available but Campbell and Ridley might.

He might go in the 3rd...

Originally Posted by Danno

You don't draft positions, you draft players. It may be that every WR left is no better on paper than the ones we currently have under contract.

BEST PROSPECT AVAILABLE!

If it happens to be a WR fine.

I can't think of a position where we wouldn't want to take the best prospect available except Punter, Kicker, and maybe FB?

And make sure the guy doesn't have an injury history.

Danno · 04-26-2019, 02:56 PM

You don't draft positions, you draft players. It may be that every WR left is no better on paper than the ones we currently have under contract.

BEST PROSPECT AVAILABLE!

If it happens to be a WR fine.

I can't think of a position where we wouldn't want to take the best prospect available except Punter, Kicker, and maybe FB?

04-26-2019, 12:16 PM	#1
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,542	Re: 2019 Saints NFL Draft Originally Posted by jeanpierre I'm really not crazy about taking a WR in the second round as deep and talented as this draft is at that position... Defensive End, Corner back, Starting Guard, Safety are what I'm looking to add... And I don't trust a guy with two last names... As much as I agree that those positions need addressing, the team failed last year because the offense couldn't convert in times of need. As soon as teams started taking Kamara and Thomas out of the game, we relied on guys like Kirkwood, Tre'Quan, Carr, Lewis and Arnold - who all proved that they could not compete come playoff time. Only guy that helped us was Ted Ginn, but those guys had a ton of opportunities to be "the" guy in crunch time and failed. That's why I think another WR is very high on our list of needs. jnormand, K Major and shawnkytonk like this.
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04-26-2019, 10:18 PM	#2
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2019 Saints NFL Draft Originally Posted by dizzle88 As much as I agree that those positions need addressing, the team failed last year because the offense couldn't convert in times of need. As soon as teams started taking Kamara and Thomas out of the game, we relied on guys like Kirkwood, Tre'Quan, Carr, Lewis and Arnold - who all proved that they could not compete come playoff time. Only guy that helped us was Ted Ginn, but those guys had a ton of opportunities to be "the" guy in crunch time and failed. That's why I think another WR is very high on our list of needs. With the exception of Tommylee, everyone of those guys you named have one thing in common - they were all in their first full season in the NFL... Now they've got a full season and a full offseason, now no longer starstruck, go into the office each day with Hey, Drew instead of OMG, I can't believe that's Drew Brees... Everyone of those guys except for the diminutive Tommylee Lewis who can't offer sh!t on punt returns (or doesn't really want to) will likely make this team and make some impressive plays on the Run to the Lombardi...
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04-26-2019, 12:08 PM	#3
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: 2019 Saints NFL Draft Did anybody watch that video above of Jose Joaquin Arcega-Whiteside catching the ball? He looks like Michael Thomas and Jimmy Graham.

04-26-2019, 12:19 PM	#4
shawnkytonk 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Denver>Memphis>Mississippi Posts: 741	Re: 2019 Saints NFL Draft Originally Posted by foreverfan Did anybody watch that video above of Jose Joaquin Arcega-Whiteside catching the ball? He looks like Michael Thomas and Jimmy Graham. Yes. And there's something to be said about football players who were basketball players as well. foreverfan likes this.

04-26-2019, 12:31 PM	#5
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,497 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2019 Saints NFL Draft OK here's my updated first pick for the Saints: Option 1 We pick Parris Campbell, WR, Ohio State Option 2 We pick Irv Smith, TE, Alabama and no trade up. It would cost us too much and the picks will be worth a lot more to us in 2020. jnormand likes this.

04-26-2019, 01:33 PM	#6
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,840 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2019 Saints NFL Draft Yeah I've ready good things about J.J. Any player with complete body control to catch & when the ball is in the air, they win most of the battles. Who in their right mind wouldn't want 2 MICHAEL THOMAS (JJ looks the part) on the same team at WR come playoff time??? Circle back to the NFCCG ... once Talib put the clamps on MT, it was over. He had no help to pick up the slack & keep the chains moving. foreverfan, dizzle88 and shawnkytonk like this.

04-26-2019, 01:35 PM	#7
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,497 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2019 Saints NFL Draft I don't think JJ will be available but Campbell and Ridley might. K Major likes this.

04-26-2019, 01:40 PM	#8
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,840 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2019 Saints NFL Draft Originally Posted by CheramieIII I don't think JJ will be available but Campbell and Ridley might. I like Ridley a lot and I won't discount Parris either (assuming they are available). Parris is a good route runner and I'm sure Urban Myer has had lengthy conversations with SPayton on his potential at the next level. We shall see.

04-26-2019, 04:31 PM	#9
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: 2019 Saints NFL Draft Originally Posted by CheramieIII I don't think JJ will be available but Campbell and Ridley might. He might go in the 3rd... Originally Posted by Danno You don't draft positions, you draft players. It may be that every WR left is no better on paper than the ones we currently have under contract. BEST PROSPECT AVAILABLE! If it happens to be a WR fine. I can't think of a position where we wouldn't want to take the best prospect available except Punter, Kicker, and maybe FB? And make sure the guy doesn't have an injury history.

04-26-2019, 02:56 PM	#10
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: 2019 Saints NFL Draft You don't draft positions, you draft players. It may be that every WR left is no better on paper than the ones we currently have under contract. BEST PROSPECT AVAILABLE! If it happens to be a WR fine. I can't think of a position where we wouldn't want to take the best prospect available except Punter, Kicker, and maybe FB? foreverfan and AsylumGuido like this.

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