I Want Drew Brees Back IF.......

TheOak · 01-15-2020, 07:13 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

It's not the 40 yard bombs that we need, it's efficiency for passes that are 20+ yards out.

You can see through the charts here https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/charts/...rees/BRE229498 that Drew really struggled this year to get the ball down the field. I wish they broke it down to passes of 15+ yards, because if you look at the game charts you can see once he hits the 15+ yard mark it goes to ****.

In the 2019 total chart it's easy to see the deficiency, and although it shows some success throwing to the right and deep, he only had a few passes thrown that way all year (numbers are skewed).

What the chart shows is passer rating compared to the rest of the league. Not arm strength or ability.

What it shows:

Drew's passer rating from 10-20 yards between 124-140 and the league average in that same area 78-91.

It shows that beyond 20 yards on the right side of the field he has a 140 passer rating with a league average of 78

It does not show which receiver is dropping passes in what zone...

Considering your interpretation of that chart. Please tell me your thoughts on Teddy Bridgewater?
https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/charts/...19/all/qb-grid

Considering your interpretation of the chart. Please tell me what you see from all the QBs in the league compared to Drew? With a few exceptions all QBs have a lane preference after 40 yards.
https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/charts/list/qb-grid

Play around that site and you will find more. Like 4 of the 7 fastest sacks in Wild Card Weekend were Minnesota sacking Drew because of our craptastic o-line play.. What option isn't in the glorious "why we lost poll" because we got our ass beat in the trenches and it isn't there because a large majority of fans do not understand more than one position if they truly understand any.
https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/t...-sacks/2019/18

This one shows that Teddy's longest Completion and Drew's longest completion are only 2.5 yards appart
https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/p...d-air-distance

You will also find that Drew has the second fastest time to throw.. Even though a lot of people say he holds on to the ball too long.
https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/p...-time-to-throw

On Wild Card Weekend Drew had the fastest TT and if I recall had 10 pressures, 4-5 hits, 3 sacks..
https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/p...-time-to-throw

I do not go rummaging through stats to prove my idea, I go through everything I can find and see what the story tells me.

RefsRobbedUs · 01-15-2020, 07:24 AM

I don't think Taysom has proved enough as a QB but I really HOPE someone doesn't offer him 15 million and force our hand. Luckily he is restricted.

st thomas · 01-15-2020, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Burrow is going to the Bengals & that's assuming they aren't stupid enough to trade picks with New England.

Saints have 0 shot @ Joe.

Oh yea they throwing stuff now out there that Carolina will sell the farm to get joe. That new owner is new and might be dumb enough nooooo way 2- #1s, a 2 , and 2 3rd rders life in prison is a better deal. I love the media

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skymike · 01-18-2020, 06:37 PM

[QUOTE=OldMaid;877246...It has been really exciting.
The 10 years,overall, of SP and his staff .
Good times . Unbelievable times no one ever thought would for all the awful. When it was awful, we still thought was good. People made their own fun.
Saints won a game. One game in 1980 or 1981. Hey, at least they won a game. We were happy.
The 8-8, 9-7 years , ahhhh,that was it.
You know the rest.
[/QUOTE]Amen S. These young-uns dont remember Dave Wilson. Or the Billy Joes, or Ken Stabler who should have retired after Houston.

My question to the board is this:

How many incumbent QB's playing right now for other teams would you rather have than Brees? How many, and name them?

Lets see who you think, among active NFL QB's is better than Drew.

I'll bet the number is less than 4.

Dont give me all that salary cap blah blah --- I'm not interested, and have never been interested in the money talk. Im into Football, not Accounting.

As a football player, a Quarterback, I think 28 teams wish they had Drew Brees.

AsylumGuido · 01-18-2020, 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by skymike

Amen S. These young-uns dont remember Dave Wilson. Or the Billy Joes, or Ken Stabler who should have retired after Houston.

My question to the board is this:

How many incumbent QB's playing right now for other teams would you rather have than Brees? How many, and name them?

Lets see who you think, among active NFL QB's is better than Drew.

I'll bet the number is less than 4.

Dont give me all that salary cap blah blah --- I'm not interested, and have never been interested in the money talk. Im into Football, not Accounting.

As a football player, a Quarterback, I think 28 teams wish they had Drew Brees.

Preachin' to this choir, Mike. As Brees stands right now he is still the best QB we have ever had in our history and one of the greatest to have ever played the game.

TheOak · 01-19-2020, 04:46 AM

Originally Posted by skymike

Amen S. These young-uns dont remember Dave Wilson. Or the Billy Joes, or Ken Stabler who should have retired after Houston.

My question to the board is this:

How many incumbent QB's playing right now for other teams would you rather have than Brees? How many, and name them?

Lets see who you think, among active NFL QB's is better than Drew.

I'll bet the number is less than 4.

Dont give me all that salary cap blah blah --- I'm not interested, and have never been interested in the money talk. Im into Football, not Accounting.

As a football player, a Quarterback, I think 28 teams wish they had Drew Brees.

Fan's have a bad habit of turning something that isn't a strength into a weakness and ignoring the real strengths.

"arm strength" is often cited as an issue.. Well lets bring in JaMarcus Russelland see how people like the trade to arm strength away from decision making.

"tries to force plays".. Alex Smith is good at forcing absolutely nothing. Lets bring him in.

For years fans wanted Drew gone because of interceptions, now they have found something different.. Most fans forget or never knew what it was like to wait for Drew Brees to come to the Saints.

01-15-2020, 07:13 AM	#91
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,055	Re: I Want Drew Brees Back IF....... Originally Posted by blackangold It's not the 40 yard bombs that we need, it's efficiency for passes that are 20+ yards out. You can see through the charts here https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/charts/...rees/BRE229498 that Drew really struggled this year to get the ball down the field. I wish they broke it down to passes of 15+ yards, because if you look at the game charts you can see once he hits the 15+ yard mark it goes to ****. In the 2019 total chart it's easy to see the deficiency, and although it shows some success throwing to the right and deep, he only had a few passes thrown that way all year (numbers are skewed). What the chart shows is passer rating compared to the rest of the league. Not arm strength or ability. What it shows: Drew's passer rating from 10-20 yards between 124-140 and the league average in that same area 78-91. It shows that beyond 20 yards on the right side of the field he has a 140 passer rating with a league average of 78 It does not show which receiver is dropping passes in what zone... Considering your interpretation of that chart. Please tell me your thoughts on Teddy Bridgewater? https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/charts/...19/all/qb-grid Considering your interpretation of the chart. Please tell me what you see from all the QBs in the league compared to Drew? With a few exceptions all QBs have a lane preference after 40 yards. https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/charts/list/qb-grid Play around that site and you will find more. Like 4 of the 7 fastest sacks in Wild Card Weekend were Minnesota sacking Drew because of our craptastic o-line play.. What option isn't in the glorious "why we lost poll" because we got our ass beat in the trenches and it isn't there because a large majority of fans do not understand more than one position if they truly understand any. https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/t...-sacks/2019/18 This one shows that Teddy's longest Completion and Drew's longest completion are only 2.5 yards appart https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/p...d-air-distance You will also find that Drew has the second fastest time to throw.. Even though a lot of people say he holds on to the ball too long. https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/p...-time-to-throw On Wild Card Weekend Drew had the fastest TT and if I recall had 10 pressures, 4-5 hits, 3 sacks.. https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/p...-time-to-throw I do not go rummaging through stats to prove my idea, I go through everything I can find and see what the story tells me. AsylumGuido, skymike and dam1953 like this.
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

01-15-2020, 07:24 AM	#92
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01-15-2020, 09:33 AM	#93
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: I Want Drew Brees Back IF....... Originally Posted by K Major Burrow is going to the Bengals & that's assuming they aren't stupid enough to trade picks with New England. Saints have 0 shot @ Joe. Oh yea they throwing stuff now out there that Carolina will sell the farm to get joe. That new owner is new and might be dumb enough nooooo way 2- #1s, a 2 , and 2 3rd rders life in prison is a better deal. I love the media Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

01-18-2020, 06:37 PM	#94
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: I Want Drew Brees Back IF....... [QUOTE=OldMaid;877246...It has been really exciting. The 10 years,overall, of SP and his staff . Good times . Unbelievable times no one ever thought would for all the awful. When it was awful, we still thought was good. People made their own fun. Saints won a game. One game in 1980 or 1981. Hey, at least they won a game. We were happy. The 8-8, 9-7 years , ahhhh,that was it. You know the rest. [/QUOTE]Amen S. These young-uns dont remember Dave Wilson. Or the Billy Joes, or Ken Stabler who should have retired after Houston. My question to the board is this: How many incumbent QB's playing right now for other teams would you rather have than Brees? How many, and name them? Lets see who you think, among active NFL QB's is better than Drew. I'll bet the number is less than 4. Dont give me all that salary cap blah blah --- I'm not interested, and have never been interested in the money talk. Im into Football, not Accounting. As a football player, a Quarterback, I think 28 teams wish they had Drew Brees. lynwood and Budsdrinker like this.

01-18-2020, 08:08 PM	#95
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,755	Re: I Want Drew Brees Back IF....... Originally Posted by skymike Amen S. These young-uns dont remember Dave Wilson. Or the Billy Joes, or Ken Stabler who should have retired after Houston. My question to the board is this: How many incumbent QB's playing right now for other teams would you rather have than Brees? How many, and name them? Lets see who you think, among active NFL QB's is better than Drew. I'll bet the number is less than 4. Dont give me all that salary cap blah blah --- I'm not interested, and have never been interested in the money talk. Im into Football, not Accounting. As a football player, a Quarterback, I think 28 teams wish they had Drew Brees. Preachin' to this choir, Mike. As Brees stands right now he is still the best QB we have ever had in our history and one of the greatest to have ever played the game. skymike likes this.

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01-19-2020, 04:46 AM	#96
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,055	Re: I Want Drew Brees Back IF....... Originally Posted by skymike Amen S. These young-uns dont remember Dave Wilson. Or the Billy Joes, or Ken Stabler who should have retired after Houston. My question to the board is this: How many incumbent QB's playing right now for other teams would you rather have than Brees? How many, and name them? Lets see who you think, among active NFL QB's is better than Drew. I'll bet the number is less than 4. Dont give me all that salary cap blah blah --- I'm not interested, and have never been interested in the money talk. Im into Football, not Accounting. As a football player, a Quarterback, I think 28 teams wish they had Drew Brees. Fan's have a bad habit of turning something that isn't a strength into a weakness and ignoring the real strengths. "arm strength" is often cited as an issue.. Well lets bring in JaMarcus Russelland see how people like the trade to arm strength away from decision making. "tries to force plays".. Alex Smith is good at forcing absolutely nothing. Lets bring him in. For years fans wanted Drew gone because of interceptions, now they have found something different.. Most fans forget or never knew what it was like to wait for Drew Brees to come to the Saints. AsylumGuido, skymike and shawnkytonk like this.
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