I Want Drew Brees Back IF.......

Rell&Gold · 01-14-2020, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

We traded away Cooks because Brees couldn’t hit the deep ball... we have 2 speedy WRs on the team and they are useless because of Drew. Yeah, let’s get another WR that Drew can’t throw to lol

False, he hit Cooks on MULTIPLE deep balls here. Denver Carolina New England etc....stop making up stories

RefsRobbedUs · 01-12-2020, 08:11 PM

Yeah the speedy guy will just be a decoy to open up the field. Drew will under throw him that's why Taysom threw the deep shot to Harris

Budsdrinker · 01-13-2020, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by RefsRobbedUs

Yeah the speedy guy will just be a decoy to open up the field. Drew will under throw him that's why Taysom threw the deep shot to Harris

Taysom's throw was under-thrown also. That ball was completed by a couple of inches. But the reason it worked was because the defense was expecting him to run the ball like he does 95% of the time. Hill to Harris, that's an unexpected combination. That's why it worked.
We don't have to throw the ball 50 yards in the air to win. Some on here keep talking about being 5-0 with Bridgewater, how many deep throws did he make?
Moving the chains and giving the defense a chance to rest is what wins ballgames. Not 2 plays and a 50 yard bomb and a tired defense back on the field.

blackangold · 01-13-2020, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

Taysom's throw was under-thrown also. That ball was completed by a couple of inches. But the reason it worked was because the defense was expecting him to run the ball like he does 95% of the time. Hill to Harris, that's an unexpected combination. That's why it worked.
We don't have to throw the ball 50 yards in the air to win. Some on here keep talking about being 5-0 with Bridgewater, how many deep throws did he make?
Moving the chains and giving the defense a chance to rest is what wins ballgames. Not 2 plays and a 50 yard bomb and a tired defense back on the field.

Quite a few deep balls once he was settled into the offense... go watch his highlights from the Tampa game.

saintsfan1976 · 01-13-2020, 07:10 AM

When it comes to intermediate routes, Brees is still elite.

I'd rather have two Lance Moore type WRs (see San Fran) than another "deep threat" like Tedd Ginn.

So yes, upgrade the line. Upgrade CB and LB. Add another RB. But please get us a shifty WR with hands and crispy routes.

K Major · 01-13-2020, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

But please get us a shifty WR with hands and crispy routes.

halloween 65 · 01-13-2020, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

When it comes to intermediate routes, Brees is still elite.

I'd rather have two Lance Moore type WRs (see San Fran) than another "deep threat" like Tedd Ginn.

So yes, upgrade the line. Upgrade CB and LB. Add another RB. But please get us a shifty WR with hands and crispy routes.

This is my point. Even without the deep ball Brees can still be really good to great with intermediate routes. If Payton want upgrade at those particular positions on the O it want matter if Brees stays or not. If he does and can actually stick to running the ball we'll be hard to control on the O side. Most people on here agree about Brees losing the deep ball. But he can still be one of the best game managers in the game if Payton gives up his quick strike thinking. If not Brees needs to really think about his future in a Saints uniform.

Crusader · 01-13-2020, 07:31 AM

I love Brees and for all that he has done for the franchise I want him back as long as he likes to play. But we need more WR help for him but it doesn't need to be a speedster because as stated above, brees struggles with the deep ball nowadays.

Watching Mahomes, Watson and even Tannehill in the playoffs makes me wish we had a QB that could launch the ball like that.

K Major · 01-13-2020, 09:38 AM

From my perspective it won't matter if it's Brees, Taysom or 2 Glove Teddy ...

Sean Payton and the brain trust MUST surround the aforementioned QB with better options at wide receiver. Carr, Jordan Humphries, Kirkwood, Ginn, Tre Smith (year 3 and he hasn't progressed) ain't those dudes. Without pulling stats, I think it's safe to say they had less than a combined 50 receptions all season long. Michael Thomas has 150 RECEPTIONS by himself. Just imagine if we didn't have Jared Cook at TE.

It's mind boggling this has yet to be addressed & it part of the reason why we are at home in Mid January. You either bring in a PROVEN COMMODITY @ WR during Free Agency or you DRAFT one. If you don't, it'll be another recipe for heart break in the post season. The Niners were a good team with a nice record but wasn't going to the NFC Championship until Emmanuel Sanders got there.

Brees can't turn those guys into Lance Moore/Slick Willie Snead's anymore.

Saints have one of the best scouting departments in the NFL. It's time to go get a true #2 WR in April's draft. He's out there.

skymike · 01-13-2020, 09:48 PM

THIS is a guy who was too old to play football.

This is not.

I remember people B****ing about Archie.

Good Lord, people.

Here are some grips for you.

...

01-14-2020, 02:21 PM	#1
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01-12-2020, 08:11 PM	#2
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01-13-2020, 09:20 AM	#3
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: I Want Drew Brees Back IF....... Originally Posted by RefsRobbedUs Yeah the speedy guy will just be a decoy to open up the field. Drew will under throw him that's why Taysom threw the deep shot to Harris Taysom's throw was under-thrown also. That ball was completed by a couple of inches. But the reason it worked was because the defense was expecting him to run the ball like he does 95% of the time. Hill to Harris, that's an unexpected combination. That's why it worked. We don't have to throw the ball 50 yards in the air to win. Some on here keep talking about being 5-0 with Bridgewater, how many deep throws did he make? Moving the chains and giving the defense a chance to rest is what wins ballgames. Not 2 plays and a 50 yard bomb and a tired defense back on the field. saintsfan1976, AsylumGuido, skymike and 2 others like this.

01-13-2020, 11:38 AM	#4
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: I Want Drew Brees Back IF....... Originally Posted by Budsdrinker Taysom's throw was under-thrown also. That ball was completed by a couple of inches. But the reason it worked was because the defense was expecting him to run the ball like he does 95% of the time. Hill to Harris, that's an unexpected combination. That's why it worked. We don't have to throw the ball 50 yards in the air to win. Some on here keep talking about being 5-0 with Bridgewater, how many deep throws did he make? Moving the chains and giving the defense a chance to rest is what wins ballgames. Not 2 plays and a 50 yard bomb and a tired defense back on the field. Quite a few deep balls once he was settled into the offense... go watch his highlights from the Tampa game.

01-13-2020, 07:10 AM	#5
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,046 Blog Entries: 3	Re: I Want Drew Brees Back IF....... When it comes to intermediate routes, Brees is still elite. I'd rather have two Lance Moore type WRs (see San Fran) than another "deep threat" like Tedd Ginn. So yes, upgrade the line. Upgrade CB and LB. Add another RB. But please get us a shifty WR with hands and crispy routes. Rugby Saint II, WW_Who_Dat and K Major like this.

01-13-2020, 08:54 AM	#6
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01-13-2020, 01:42 PM	#7
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: I Want Drew Brees Back IF....... Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 When it comes to intermediate routes, Brees is still elite. I'd rather have two Lance Moore type WRs (see San Fran) than another "deep threat" like Tedd Ginn. So yes, upgrade the line. Upgrade CB and LB. Add another RB. But please get us a shifty WR with hands and crispy routes. This is my point. Even without the deep ball Brees can still be really good to great with intermediate routes. If Payton want upgrade at those particular positions on the O it want matter if Brees stays or not. If he does and can actually stick to running the ball we'll be hard to control on the O side. Most people on here agree about Brees losing the deep ball. But he can still be one of the best game managers in the game if Payton gives up his quick strike thinking. If not Brees needs to really think about his future in a Saints uniform.

01-13-2020, 07:31 AM	#8
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,049	Re: I Want Drew Brees Back IF....... I love Brees and for all that he has done for the franchise I want him back as long as he likes to play. But we need more WR help for him but it doesn't need to be a speedster because as stated above, brees struggles with the deep ball nowadays. Watching Mahomes, Watson and even Tannehill in the playoffs makes me wish we had a QB that could launch the ball like that.

01-13-2020, 09:38 AM	#9
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,840 Blog Entries: 3	Re: I Want Drew Brees Back IF....... From my perspective it won't matter if it's Brees, Taysom or 2 Glove Teddy ... Sean Payton and the brain trust MUST surround the aforementioned QB with better options at wide receiver. Carr, Jordan Humphries, Kirkwood, Ginn, Tre Smith (year 3 and he hasn't progressed) ain't those dudes. Without pulling stats, I think it's safe to say they had less than a combined 50 receptions all season long. Michael Thomas has 150 RECEPTIONS by himself. Just imagine if we didn't have Jared Cook at TE. It's mind boggling this has yet to be addressed & it part of the reason why we are at home in Mid January. You either bring in a PROVEN COMMODITY @ WR during Free Agency or you DRAFT one. If you don't, it'll be another recipe for heart break in the post season. The Niners were a good team with a nice record but wasn't going to the NFC Championship until Emmanuel Sanders got there. Brees can't turn those guys into Lance Moore/Slick Willie Snead's anymore. Saints have one of the best scouting departments in the NFL. It's time to go get a true #2 WR in April's draft. He's out there. saintsfan1976 likes this.

01-13-2020, 09:48 PM	#10
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: I Want Drew Brees Back IF....... THIS is a guy who was too old to play football. This is not. I remember people B****ing about Archie. Good Lord, people. Here are some grips for you. ... saintsfan1976 and OldMaid like this.