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jeanpierre 01-17-2020 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 877443)
If we lose AJ to Free Agency ...

Blake Martinez - Packers
DeVontre Campbell - Falcons .. good vs run and solid in coverage.


Blake Martinez, smart LBer (Stanford), thought I read he was trying to stay with the Pack...

blackangold 01-17-2020 10:28 AM

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My FA needs... also Draft needs...

DT:
Need a big powerful DT that has pass rushing ability. We saw late in the year the pass rush declined considerably. Throughout the year there wasn't much pressure up the middle and that needs to change.

WR:
This one is obvious. Even with my anti-Brees mentality I understand we have one of the worst WR corps in the league. We need a solid rout runner that is a hands catcher. A big body WR wouldn't hurt here either.

O-Line:
Peat is awful and shouldn't return. We need a replacement that has quick feet and understands the zone blocking scheme.

LB:
I hope AJ comes back, but even if he does it's unlikely that Alex stays healthy so we need another young fast LB here. Coverage skill is a plus, but I would like to see some pass rushing ability as well.

jeanpierre 01-17-2020 10:44 AM

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jeanpierre 01-19-2020 01:13 PM

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vpheughan 01-19-2020 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 877518)

Washington (Seahawks) Florida (Jaguars, Bucs, Dolphins) Texas (Texans and Cowboys) With the move by Raiders to Nevada that makes 7 NFL teams in states with no income tax.

Alaska, Florida, Nevada, South Dakota, Texas, Washington, and Wyoming.

halloween 65 01-19-2020 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 877512)

Blake Martinez, smart LBer (Stanford), thought I read he was trying to stay with the Pack...

I would take Campbell over Martinez. I think he would be a better compliment to Davis.

Rugby Saint II 01-22-2020 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 877167)
Exactly and Peat is all but gone. I don’t want to have to replace 2 linemen this year. We have done it before but I hate messing with the continuity there.

I beg to differ. Warford is a wink link and needs to be upgraded....maybe next year. Your right about Peat though. The Pillsbury dough boy is all but gone. Oh wait, he's already cleaned out his locker. He's soo gone! :p

K Major 01-24-2020 08:04 AM

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A veteran name that hasn't been mentioned a lot ...

Breshad Perriman - WR BUCS

Becomes a UFA in March. As a #3 WR in Tampa, he ended the season with 645 yards/6 TD's. BP is a big target & has a nice catch radius. He could help out Brees on some of those contested passes .. something Tre/Ginn failed (high point/win 50 balls) to do all of 2019.

IMO his skills are quite possibly better than any kid coming of the draft. Perriman wouldn't be a costly move either.

E Butler, Jordan Humphrey are BIG guys but require more polish.

jeanpierre 01-25-2020 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 878122)
A veteran name that hasn't been mentioned a lot ...

Breshad Perriman - WR BUCS

Becomes a UFA in March. As a #3 WR in Tampa, he ended the season with 645 yards/6 TD's. BP is a big target & has a nice catch radius. He could help out Brees on some of those contested passes .. something Tre/Ginn failed (high point/win 50 balls) to do all of 2019.

IMO his skills are quite possibly better than any kid coming of the draft. Perriman wouldn't be a costly move either.

E Butler, Jordan Humphrey are BIG guys but require more polish.

Don't know about him as most of those numbers came in garbage time, and he was the third option on a team that featured two All-Pro caliber WRs...

In his case, you'd really, really have to get in the tape and watch it all...

jeanpierre 01-25-2020 09:14 PM

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Signing Eric Berry would shore up safety should Vonn Bell prove too expensive...


jeanpierre 01-25-2020 09:17 PM

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K Major 01-25-2020 09:48 PM

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Breshard Perriman is the most intriguing of the bunch.

Although he was #3 on the Bucs depth chart, he still managed to have a very solid season. Can separate, high points the ball and is not afraid to do the dirty work. Although the Bucs somewhat checked out towards the latter part of the season ... Breshard continued to give 100% with big plays.

Amari, AJ, Robbie etc ... a lil too costly.

jeanpierre 01-25-2020 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 878305)
Breshard Perriman is the most intriguing of the bunch.

Although he was #3 on the Bucs depth chart, he still managed to have a very solid season. Can separate, high points the ball and is not afraid to do the dirty work. Although the Bucs somewhat checked out towards the latter part of the season ... Breshard continued to give 100% with big plays.

Amari, AJ, Robbie etc ... a lil too costly.

Not sure what Sigler was thinking in that grouping...

Only one in Tier 1 is Amari Cooper, whom I don't trust...

I'd put Emmanuel Sanders as the top guy in Tier 2, with A.J. Green behind him...

Cobb or Amendola, as the WR-Slot, would be appealing and the way I'd geaux, but most teams won't pay a slot receiver, which is a huge mistake...

You could have an experienced guy underneath who knows how to drag, crawl, stretch for that all-important, difference-making, extra yard...

Then you can draft a fast, young buck to haul *ss on go routes, stretching that field for Mike Thomas and Jared Cook, and the underneath guy as the release opposite Kamara...

Of all of them, I think Amendola, after having success with the Pats, and playing on several sh*tty teams, may be at the point he'd like to go out with a contender, but he's 34 yo...


K Major 01-26-2020 09:33 AM

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Amari will remain a cowboy, Robbie will be too expensive and I hope we stay away from a 34 year old slot WR in Amendola.

I'm looking forward to a #2, 3 WR sign in NO without all of the "hype".

Younger, faster, stronger.

jeanpierre 01-26-2020 04:53 PM

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WalterFootball.com 2020 NFL Free Agents: Top 100

Some of the names who popped out at me from this list...

1. https://walterfootball.com/images/fb...intsb_logo.gifDrew Brees, QB, Saints. Age: 41.
One of the best quarterbacks in NFL history, Drew Brees is listed ahead of Tom Brady in the free agency rankings pages because he played much better than his future Hall of Fame counterpart in 2019. Granted, Brees had a better supporting cast, but the disparity between the two was vast.

13. https://walterfootball.com/images/fb...iotsb_logo.gif Joe Thuney, (L)G, Patriots. Age: 27.
Joe Thuney has developed quite well since being a third-round pick in the 2016 NFL Draft. He has become an elite pass protector. Thuney can improve in run blocking, but he still deserves a massive contract.



19. https://walterfootball.com/images/fb...kinsb_logo.gifBrandon Scherff, (R)G, Redskins. Age: 29.
Brandon Scherff is a very talented guard, but he's had trouble staying healthy. He's missed 13 games over the past two seasons, so he comes with huge risk with his massive reward.



30. https://walterfootball.com/images/fb...consb_logo.gifAustin Hooper, TE, Falcons. Age: 25.
Austin Hooper is a highly athletic tight end who has improved exponentially in each of his four NFL seasons. He won't even turn 26 until October, so the sky is the limit for him.



52. https://walterfootball.com/images/fball/bearsb_logo.gifNick Kwiatkoski, LB, Bears. Age: 27.
Danny Trevathan got hurt during the season, but it didn't matter very much because Nick Kwiatkoski stepped in and played on a high level. He'll be entering just his fifth year in the league, so there's definitely reason to believe he could continue to improve.



63. https://walterfootball.com/images/fball/lionsb_logo.gifGraham Glasgow, G/C, Lions, Lions. Age: 28.
Graham Glasgow improved markedly in 2019, becoming a stout blocker for the Lions' interior offensive line. Glasgow can play both center and guard very well, so he'll be highly sought after on the open market.



66. Taysom Hill, QB/WR, Saints. Age: 30.
Taysom Hill looked like just a gadget player a couple of years ago, but he was fantastic in the previous preseason, showing the ability that he could one day become New Orleans' starting quarterback.



78. https://walterfootball.com/images/fb...boysb_logo.gifMaliek Collins, DT, Cowboys. Age: 25.
Maliek Collins puts good pressure on opposing quarterbacks in the interior of the trenches. He'll be just 25 in April, so there's a chance he'll make a big leap in production.



79. https://walterfootball.com/images/fb...ingsb_logo.gifMackensie Alexander, CB, Vikings. Age: 26.
Minnesota's secondary struggled in 2019, but don't look at Mackensie Alexander, who did well in the slot once again.



82. https://walterfootball.com/images/fball/Bucsb_logo.gifCarl Nassib, DE, Buccaneers. Age: 27.
Carl Nassib is just a mediocre pass rusher, but he's been excellent in run support. Nassib turns 27 in April, so he could improve his pass-rushing ability.



95. https://walterfootball.com/images/fball/Bucsb_logo.gifBreshad Perriman, WR, Buccaneers. Age: 26.
Breshad Perriman had been a major bust throughout his career, but he caught fire late in 2019, finally emerging as a the dynamic threat the Ravens thought they were getting when they chose him in the opening round of the 2015 NFL Draft.



AsylumGuido 01-26-2020 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 878381)
WalterFootball.com 2020 NFL Free Agents: Top 100

66. https://walterfootball.com/images/fb...intsb_logo.gifTaysom Hill, QB/WR, Saints. Age: 30.
Taysom Hill looked like just a gadget player a couple of years ago, but he was fantastic in the previous preseason, showing the ability that he could one day become New Orleans' starting quarterback.



I hope people realize that Taysom Hill was three for six passing on the entire season for 55 whole yards. He has done nothing to show that he has any ability to be a starting QB. That said, I dearly want him to remain an a weapon player for the Saints as long as we can keep him.

halloween 65 01-26-2020 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 878383)
I hope people realize that Taysom Hill was three for six passing on the entire season for 55 whole yards. He has done nothing to show that he has any ability to be a starting QB. That said, I dearly want him to remain an a weapon player for the Saints as long as we can keep him.

Your right in the aspect he's shown nothing to be a starting qb. but in his defense he hasn't been under C an entire game yet either. I do know when he's on the field under C, defenses don't have a clue to do with him. Being compared to Steve Young really isn't a joke. He will never be a Drew Brees but how many really will when it's said and done?

halloween 65 01-26-2020 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 878305)
Breshard Perriman is the most intriguing of the bunch.

Although he was #3 on the Bucs depth chart, he still managed to have a very solid season. Can separate, high points the ball and is not afraid to do the dirty work. Although the Bucs somewhat checked out towards the latter part of the season ... Breshard continued to give 100% with big plays.

Amari, AJ, Robbie etc ... a lil too costly.

Perriman is interesting. With Winston throwing for a million yards (and int's) Perriman did well. A much more accurate passer might make him a star. Pretty good hands also.

jeanpierre 01-26-2020 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 878388)
Perriman is interesting. With Winston throwing for a million yards (and int's) Perriman did well. A much more accurate passer might make him a star. Pretty good hands also.

I'm more skeptical of Perriman and his performance this past season; but I'd have to agree with KMajor in this regard - of all the FA WRs available, he's probably the best option because of age, affordability...

I'd like not to spend money on him for the sake of spending what Loomis can squeeze out of available cap space; I'd rather rework/beef up the offensive line, add an edge defender and/or another DB...

AsylumGuido 01-26-2020 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 878387)
Your right in the aspect he's shown nothing to be a starting qb. but in his defense he hasn't been under C an entire game yet either. I do know when he's on the field under C, defenses don't have a clue to do with him. Being compared to Steve Young really isn't a joke. He will never be a Drew Brees but how many really will when it's said and done?

When under center most of his plays have been exotic plays. How many have been traditional in count and distance? When has he ran an entire series against a regular season defense?

halloween 65 01-27-2020 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 878392)
When under center most of his plays have been exotic plays. How many have been traditional in count and distance? When has he ran an entire series against a regular season defense?

Exactly. So judging him in either way until he has a greater body of work is pointless at this stage. I really would like to see him under C, but just like any (rookie basically) qb. he's going to have growing pains, Brees will be here this season I never thought he wouldn't, but if he gets hurt or starts blowing games with his arm I would like to see a mobile qb with wheels to keep plays alive behind C.

K Major 01-27-2020 08:29 AM

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Go get a proven GUARD to protect #9.

I saw ANDRUS PEAT get blown up in the Pro Bowl yesterday, subsequent fumble from Cousins & guess what JJ Watt running the other way for 6.

Saints MUST GET A GUARD who is good in pass protection & also understands blocking schemes. Preferably an above average one ... paging Brandon Scherff. It's time to get nasty in those trenches the way Carl Nicks & Jahri Evans used to do.

Give Brees great protection and he'll slice you up.

jeanpierre 01-27-2020 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 878437)
Go get a proven GUARD(s) to protect #9.

I saw ANDRUS PEAT get blown up in the Pro Bowl yesterday, subsequent fumble from Cousins & guess what JJ Watt running the other way for 6.

Saints MUST GET A GUARD who is good in pass protection & also understands blocking schemes. Preferably an above average one ... paging Brandon Scherff. It's time to get nasty in those trenches the way Carl Nicks & Jahri Evans used to do.

Give Brees great protection and he'll slice you up.

FIFY

Go back and watch the tape, Warford is mailing it in, time to move on...

K Major 01-27-2020 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 878485)
FIFY

Go back and watch the tape, Warford is mailing it in, time to move on...

Damn JP.

I thought Warford was at least "serviceable".

Without good guard play, Brees is gonna suffer.

jeanpierre 01-27-2020 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 878491)
Damn JP.

I thought Warford was at least "serviceable".

Without good guard play, Brees is gonna suffer.

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And here's the thing, Major, for what we're paying, we could afford Scherff, so we shouldn't just be getting "serviceable"...

And have you noticed how few screens we run the past two seasons?

We use run those all day, usually at least for one score a game...

K Major 01-28-2020 08:48 AM

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Maybe the Saints will consider Joe Thuney @ G.

He's solid at guard, durable and relatively young. IMO Joe is an upgrade over Peat.

Could come a lot cheaper than Brandon (assuming he's out of the Saints price point) Scherff.

K Major 01-28-2020 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 878302)
Signing Eric Berry would shore up safety should Vonn Bell prove too expensive...

https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/...66408228737024

Maybe the Saints find a way to retain VB. He did lead our team in takeaways in 2019 & was always around the ball.

I'm very surprised Eric didn't get a "prove it" type of deal from any team last season.

One would wonder if Berry would have had more "impact" on the secondary instead of repeated collapses on the back end? IMO Vonn isn't the safety the Saints need to move away/upgrade from.

AsylumGuido 01-28-2020 04:08 PM

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Eric Berry equals Champ Bailey 2.0

AsylumGuido 01-28-2020 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 878603)
Maybe the Saints find a way to retain VB. He did lead our team in takeaways in 2019 & was always around the ball.

I'm very surprised Eric didn't get a "prove it" type of deal from any team last season.

One would wonder if Berry would have had more "impact" on the secondary instead of repeated collapses on the back end? IMO Vonn isn't the safety the Saints need to move away/upgrade from.

He didn't get that deal because they all know his time has passed.

K Major 01-28-2020 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 878614)
He didn't get that deal because they all know his time has passed.

Interesting.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/e...eiving-offers/

AsylumGuido 01-28-2020 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 878628)

We'll see if that injury that has lingered since 2017 will have an effect moving forward. I call bullcrap on teams wanting him to play. They may have inquired, but he obviously knew he couldn't do it. Extra years on the body shouldn't help those matters. Vet minimum? Sure, why not give it a try preseason. We can always cut his injured self prior to the regular season. I wouldn't want to pull a Champ Bailey deal again.

CheramieIII 01-28-2020 10:53 PM

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We'll draft the best LT available.

jeanpierre 01-29-2020 05:35 PM

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jeanpierre 01-30-2020 08:34 AM

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jeanpierre 01-30-2020 04:31 PM

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jeanpierre 01-30-2020 05:11 PM

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AsylumGuido 01-30-2020 05:27 PM

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FOX analyst bound. This was shared on NFL radio a couple of weeks ago. He had been offered a position if he wanted to leave the game.

jeanpierre 01-31-2020 09:15 AM

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jeanpierre 02-02-2020 12:23 PM

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jeanpierre 02-05-2020 08:34 AM

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We'll draft the best LT available.

Where you been?

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