2020 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints

jeanpierre · 04-05-2020, 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I think the Jags may eventually trade Yannick Ngakoue.

Last I read they were open to offers on Leonard Fournette as well.

Maybe they could use a Guard?!?

jeanpierre · 04-06-2020, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

I think the Jags may eventually trade Yannick Ngakoue.

Last I read they were open to offers on Leonard Fournette as well.

Major, now we know...

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K Major · 04-06-2020, 12:27 PM

Too bad the Saints aren't "interested" in Yannick.

He's never had less than 8 sacks & has 4 forced fumbles in 3 out of 4 seasons as a Pro. 13 tackles for losses in consecutive years & good against the run.

Stud and only 25.

Can we select one in the draft please?

jeanpierre · 04-06-2020, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Too bad the Saints aren't "interested" in Yannick.

He's never had less than 8 sacks & has 4 forced fumbles in 3 out of 4 seasons as a Pro. 13 tackles for losses in consecutive years & good against the run.

Stud and only 25.

Can we select one in the draft please?

Was reading an interesting article in our favourite grading system's catalog, but they made some interesting points...

One, Yannick can do the hardest task for a DE very well, get the passer on the ground, and he wants top money for doing it...

But there are liabilities to his game - he can't secure the edge, play-action pass slows his pass rush waaaay down, and he's not consistent with pressure - so he's boon or bust...

Then there's cap cost to keep 'em (you're not giving away a first round pick on a one year rental), and with cap hits of other D-Linemen, Yannick Ngakoue is cost prohibitive...

The Draft is the only realistic solution to improve the pass rush; and if we're real honest, no matter how you fall on the Davenport Debate, he's not finished a season yet when needed most...

Trey gives great effort as a late 3rd round talent, but this is Trey's last season on his rookie contract, so that's another reason to address the position...

Granderson is raw, at least another season, maybe two before he's a reliable edge defender; best case - it'll be end of this season before he's productive in Nascar sub-packages...

We've got to get an available Edge Defender and it's my belief, though I still don't trust some of these models, that Epenesa will fall and is the answer to this lack of pass rush...

K Major · 04-06-2020, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Then there's cap cost to keep 'em (you're not giving away a first round pick on a one year rental), and with cap hits of other D-Linemen, Yannick Ngakoue is cost prohibitive...

The Draft is the only realistic solution to improve the pass rush; and if we're real honest, no matter how you fall on the Davenport Debate, he's not finished a season yet when needed most...

Trey gives great effort as a late 3rd round talent, but this is Trey's last season on his rookie contract, so that's another reason to address the position...

Granderson is raw, at least another season, maybe two before he's a reliable edge defender; best case - it'll be end of this season before he's productive in Nascar sub-packages...

We've got to get an available Edge Defender and it's my belief, though I still don't trust some of these models, that Epenesa will fall and is the answer to this lack of pass rush...[/B]

Agreed on the draft & Epenesa.

As for Trey ... good rotational guy, never quits but he's simply not good enough to put QB's on their a**. Time for someone else to challenge his spot. Granderson, Spence & Davenport are still question marks off the edge.

If the Saints are truly pushing all of their chips (M Jenkins, E Sanders) to the front of table in 2020, I'd bring in a proven vet to come off the edge.

Gotta pack some goons once the playoff starts. As we know, it's a totally different animal vs the reg season.

lee909 · 04-07-2020, 07:40 PM

Just realised Ron Leary is a free agent.
Would be a upgrade on Easton maybe, can clear 4ml cutting Easton. Would be worth a look maybe, especially with Armstead injury history and Peat likely to get pushed out. Probably too late for a move now.

K Major · 04-07-2020, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

Just realised Ron Leary is a free agent.
Would be a upgrade on Easton maybe, can clear 4ml cutting Easton. Would be worth a look maybe, especially with Armstead injury history and Peat likely to get pushed out. Probably too late for a move now.

From what I've read on Bronco forums, Ronald's best playing days are behind him and has become somewhat injury prone.

shawnkytonk · 04-07-2020, 08:37 PM

The local talking heads here in Denver can't stand the guy. I'll take Easton.

ChrisXVI · 04-08-2020, 05:25 PM

lee909 · 04-08-2020, 05:29 PM

So who do we think will be the QB signed to fill out the roster and let Taysom be Taysom on game day

04-05-2020, 08:26 PM	#701
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2020 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by K Major I think the Jags may eventually trade Yannick Ngakoue. Last I read they were open to offers on Leonard Fournette as well. Maybe they could use a Guard?!? Rugby Saint II and K Major like this.

04-06-2020, 11:58 AM	#702
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2020 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by K Major I think the Jags may eventually trade Yannick Ngakoue. Last I read they were open to offers on Leonard Fournette as well. Major, now we know... Twitter K Major likes this.

04-06-2020, 12:27 PM	#703
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2020 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Too bad the Saints aren't "interested" in Yannick. He's never had less than 8 sacks & has 4 forced fumbles in 3 out of 4 seasons as a Pro. 13 tackles for losses in consecutive years & good against the run. Stud and only 25. Can we select one in the draft please?

04-06-2020, 01:38 PM	#704
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2020 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by K Major Too bad the Saints aren't "interested" in Yannick. He's never had less than 8 sacks & has 4 forced fumbles in 3 out of 4 seasons as a Pro. 13 tackles for losses in consecutive years & good against the run. Stud and only 25. Can we select one in the draft please? Was reading an interesting article in our favourite grading system's catalog, but they made some interesting points... One, Yannick can do the hardest task for a DE very well, get the passer on the ground, and he wants top money for doing it... But there are liabilities to his game - he can't secure the edge, play-action pass slows his pass rush waaaay down, and he's not consistent with pressure - so he's boon or bust... Then there's cap cost to keep 'em (you're not giving away a first round pick on a one year rental), and with cap hits of other D-Linemen, Yannick Ngakoue is cost prohibitive... The Draft is the only realistic solution to improve the pass rush; and if we're real honest, no matter how you fall on the Davenport Debate, he's not finished a season yet when needed most... Trey gives great effort as a late 3rd round talent, but this is Trey's last season on his rookie contract, so that's another reason to address the position... Granderson is raw, at least another season, maybe two before he's a reliable edge defender; best case - it'll be end of this season before he's productive in Nascar sub-packages... We've got to get an available Edge Defender and it's my belief, though I still don't trust some of these models, that Epenesa will fall and is the answer to this lack of pass rush...
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04-06-2020, 01:55 PM	#705
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2020 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre Then there's cap cost to keep 'em (you're not giving away a first round pick on a one year rental), and with cap hits of other D-Linemen, Yannick Ngakoue is cost prohibitive... The Draft is the only realistic solution to improve the pass rush; and if we're real honest, no matter how you fall on the Davenport Debate, he's not finished a season yet when needed most... Trey gives great effort as a late 3rd round talent, but this is Trey's last season on his rookie contract, so that's another reason to address the position... Granderson is raw, at least another season, maybe two before he's a reliable edge defender; best case - it'll be end of this season before he's productive in Nascar sub-packages... We've got to get an available Edge Defender and it's my belief, though I still don't trust some of these models, that Epenesa will fall and is the answer to this lack of pass rush...[/B] Agreed on the draft & Epenesa. As for Trey ... good rotational guy, never quits but he's simply not good enough to put QB's on their a**. Time for someone else to challenge his spot. Granderson, Spence & Davenport are still question marks off the edge. If the Saints are truly pushing all of their chips (M Jenkins, E Sanders) to the front of table in 2020, I'd bring in a proven vet to come off the edge. Gotta pack some goons once the playoff starts. As we know, it's a totally different animal vs the reg season.

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04-07-2020, 07:40 PM	#706
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,803 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 2020 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Just realised Ron Leary is a free agent. Would be a upgrade on Easton maybe, can clear 4ml cutting Easton. Would be worth a look maybe, especially with Armstead injury history and Peat likely to get pushed out. Probably too late for a move now.

04-07-2020, 08:34 PM	#707
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2020 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by lee909 Just realised Ron Leary is a free agent. Would be a upgrade on Easton maybe, can clear 4ml cutting Easton. Would be worth a look maybe, especially with Armstead injury history and Peat likely to get pushed out. Probably too late for a move now. From what I've read on Bronco forums, Ronald's best playing days are behind him and has become somewhat injury prone. shawnkytonk likes this.

04-07-2020, 08:37 PM	#708
shawnkytonk 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Denver>Memphis>Mississippi Posts: 741	Re: 2020 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints The local talking heads here in Denver can't stand the guy. I'll take Easton.

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04-08-2020, 05:29 PM	#710
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,803 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 2020 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints So who do we think will be the QB signed to fill out the roster and let Taysom be Taysom on game day