2020 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints

K Major · 04-13-2020, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

[B]If they could just keep Cooks on the outside where he could focus on just being a big play threat and not as a WRx, then they should recoup their investment...

In a sport as fast and as violent as football, I just don't see Cooks making it an entire season ... considering he still hasn't mastered the WR route tree and has limited field awareness.

They've lost Larry Tunsil, Clowney & now Hopkins because Bill O'Brien doesn't particularly like them as players or a "fit"

?

IMO this trade will back fire with the Texans and cause coaches to lose their jobs.

jeanpierre · 04-13-2020, 04:13 PM

Oh, wow! Maybe Kamara is headed out of town?

ChrisXVI · 04-13-2020, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Oh, wow! Maybe Kamara is headed out of town?

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/sta...90515140231169

Good Lord that’s a lot of money!

K Major · 04-13-2020, 04:25 PM

Christian is deserving of that contract.

AK's agent can ask all he wants but that type of deal isn't happening in New Orleans. Not at RB.

blackangold · 04-13-2020, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Christian is deserving of that contract.

AK's agent can ask all he wants but that type of deal isn't happening in New Orleans. Not at RB.

I hope not, but you know his agent is going to push for it.

In my opinion we should let AK walk, RBs are often a product of the system and O-line. Anything over 10m per year would be too much for AK or any RB in my opinion.

Don't get me wrong, I would love to keep AK, but not at the price of losing someone like Lattimore or Ram. Both of those guys are going to command big contracts soon.

shawnkytonk · 04-13-2020, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

In a sport as fast and as violent as football, I just don't see Cooks making it an entire season ... considering he still hasn't mastered the WR route tree and has limited field awareness.

They've lost Larry Tunsil, Clowney & now Hopkins because Bill O'Brien doesn't particularly like them as players or a "fit" ?

IMO this trade will back fire with the Texans and cause coaches to lose their jobs.

They just traded this past season for Tunsil, so I'm pretty sure he's still with the team.

I agree the other trades were terrible outside of Clowney. They didn't get much for him, but he was in the last year of his contract. His demands are out of this world considering his production. He's not a bust, but has far from lived up to his #1 overall pick. He also gets injured quite a bit.

K Major · 04-13-2020, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by shawnkytonk

They just traded this past season for Tunsil, so I'm pretty sure he's still with the team.

I meant Bill O'Brien traded multiple picks (2 1st rounders/in addition to acquiring Stills) to obtain Larry aka King of False starts.

Those are some bold moves that have yet to pay off. He's a decent HC but I'll never confuse him with Jeff Ireland at GM.

lee909 · 04-13-2020, 05:23 PM

I'd bwe fitelkding offers now to be honest. Just don't agree with paying RBs. Long term contracts for Ramczyk, Mlaattimore and Williams more important,.

Get a 2nd and miad rounder if its on offer and grab another G and RB.

jeanpierre · 04-16-2020, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

I hope not, but you know his agent is going to push for it.

In my opinion we should let AK walk, RBs are often a product of the system and O-line. Anything over 10m per year would be too much for AK or any RB in my opinion.

Don't get me wrong, I would love to keep AK, but not at the price of losing someone like Lattimore or Ram. Both of those guys are going to command big contracts soon.

Likely scenario, AK plays out his contract, helps us make a Superbowl run; his contract expires, signs for big bucks, and we get a 3rd compensatory pick for the 2022...

jeanpierre · 04-16-2020, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

I'd bwe fitelkding offers now to be honest. Just don't agree with paying RBs. Long term contracts for Ramczyk, Mlaattimore and Williams more important,.

Get a 2nd and miad rounder if its on offer and grab another G and RB.

Agree It'd be kinda late to transition to Murray as our feature back; unless we've inside scoop on LSU RB Clyde Edwards already knowing our offense...

We'd essentially trade Kamara to pick 'em...

04-13-2020, 04:11 PM	#731
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2020 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre [B]If they could just keep Cooks on the outside where he could focus on just being a big play threat and not as a WRx, then they should recoup their investment... In a sport as fast and as violent as football, I just don't see Cooks making it an entire season ... considering he still hasn't mastered the WR route tree and has limited field awareness. They've lost Larry Tunsil, Clowney & now Hopkins because Bill O'Brien doesn't particularly like them as players or a "fit" ? IMO this trade will back fire with the Texans and cause coaches to lose their jobs. jeanpierre likes this.

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04-13-2020, 04:21 PM	#733
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2020 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre Oh, wow! Maybe Kamara is headed out of town? https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/sta...90515140231169 Good Lord that’s a lot of money!

04-13-2020, 04:25 PM	#734
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2020 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Christian is deserving of that contract. AK's agent can ask all he wants but that type of deal isn't happening in New Orleans. Not at RB. jeanpierre likes this.

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blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: 2020 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by K Major Christian is deserving of that contract. AK's agent can ask all he wants but that type of deal isn't happening in New Orleans. Not at RB. I hope not, but you know his agent is going to push for it. In my opinion we should let AK walk, RBs are often a product of the system and O-line. Anything over 10m per year would be too much for AK or any RB in my opinion. Don't get me wrong, I would love to keep AK, but not at the price of losing someone like Lattimore or Ram. Both of those guys are going to command big contracts soon.

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shawnkytonk 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Denver>Memphis>Mississippi Posts: 741	Re: 2020 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by K Major In a sport as fast and as violent as football, I just don't see Cooks making it an entire season ... considering he still hasn't mastered the WR route tree and has limited field awareness. They've lost Larry Tunsil, Clowney & now Hopkins because Bill O'Brien doesn't particularly like them as players or a "fit" ? IMO this trade will back fire with the Texans and cause coaches to lose their jobs. They just traded this past season for Tunsil, so I'm pretty sure he's still with the team. I agree the other trades were terrible outside of Clowney. They didn't get much for him, but he was in the last year of his contract. His demands are out of this world considering his production. He's not a bust, but has far from lived up to his #1 overall pick. He also gets injured quite a bit. jeanpierre and K Major like this.

04-13-2020, 05:21 PM	#737
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2020 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by shawnkytonk They just traded this past season for Tunsil, so I'm pretty sure he's still with the team. I meant Bill O'Brien traded multiple picks (2 1st rounders/in addition to acquiring Stills) to obtain Larry aka King of False starts. Those are some bold moves that have yet to pay off. He's a decent HC but I'll never confuse him with Jeff Ireland at GM. jeanpierre likes this.

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lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,803 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 2020 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints I'd bwe fitelkding offers now to be honest. Just don't agree with paying RBs. Long term contracts for Ramczyk, Mlaattimore and Williams more important,. Get a 2nd and miad rounder if its on offer and grab another G and RB.

04-16-2020, 05:24 PM	#739
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2020 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by blackangold I hope not, but you know his agent is going to push for it. In my opinion we should let AK walk, RBs are often a product of the system and O-line. Anything over 10m per year would be too much for AK or any RB in my opinion. Don't get me wrong, I would love to keep AK, but not at the price of losing someone like Lattimore or Ram. Both of those guys are going to command big contracts soon. Likely scenario, AK plays out his contract, helps us make a Superbowl run; his contract expires, signs for big bucks, and we get a 3rd compensatory pick for the 2022...

04-16-2020, 05:27 PM	#740
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2020 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by lee909 I'd bwe fitelkding offers now to be honest. Just don't agree with paying RBs. Long term contracts for Ramczyk, Mlaattimore and Williams more important,. Get a 2nd and miad rounder if its on offer and grab another G and RB. Agree It'd be kinda late to transition to Murray as our feature back; unless we've inside scoop on LSU RB Clyde Edwards already knowing our offense... We'd essentially trade Kamara to pick 'em...