2020 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints

jeanpierre · 05-05-2020, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

I think Mitch was simply a bad pick by Ryan Pace and his scouts.

All I see from him over the years is a decent "back up" candidate.

Put Trubisky in the same class as Andy Dalton - if the quarterback/offensive coordinator had been there, they'd had lots of success...

The pick was bad from the standpoint, the reach to take him, and not having the staff and personnel in place for it to work...

jeanpierre · 05-05-2020, 11:43 AM

ChrisXVI · 05-05-2020, 03:05 PM

Oh that would be disastrous.

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jeanpierre · 05-05-2020, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Oh that would be disastrous.

This is EXACTLY the scenario that I'd been asking should Payton/Loomis' practice of pushing the debt into the future (kinda like Congress) and got me blocked for asking it...

It'll be interesting to see if the cap gets rolled back exactly who we'd have to let go, or couldn't be extended because of current, past cap commitments...

AsylumGuido · 05-05-2020, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

https://twitter.com/mysportsupdate/s...51159781167105

This is EXACTLY the scenario that I'd been asking should Payton/Loomis' practice of pushing the debt into the future (kinda like Congress) and got me blocked for asking it...

It'll be interesting to see if the cap gets rolled back exactly who we'd have to let go, or couldn't be extended because of current, past cap commitments...

I would assume the league would override the cap formula based upon the extenuating circumstances. There is no way they would force teams to cut a plethora of players to follow a dramatically declined expected income. The NFL's success depends upon competitive balance above everything.

Don't forget, the owners own the league. They can change those type of rules without any player input ... not that players would object. I serious doubt there is anything to worry about down those lines.

jeanpierre · 05-05-2020, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I would assume the league would override the cap formula based upon the extenuating circumstances. There is no way they would force teams to cut a plethora of players to follow a dramatically declined expected income. The NFL's success depends upon competitive balance above everything.

Don't forget, the owners own the league. They can change those type of rules without any player input ... not that players would object. I serious doubt there is anything to worry about down those lines.

The realist in me would agree with you, however...

Keep in mind, we're not exactly on the Commissioner's Christmas Card List, and I don't know that Gayle Benson has the stroke among the owners that Tommy-boy had...

And this could give a few teams the opportunity to breakthrough on us...

jeanpierre · 05-05-2020, 04:02 PM

K Major · 05-05-2020, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

https://twitter.com/AroundTheNFL/sta...64362271354881

Kind of surprised he is still out there.

His price tag may have run off some teams perhaps.

K Major · 05-05-2020, 04:26 PM

Speaking of Free Agents ...

I'm beginning to wonder if the Vikings will bring back Everson Griffen on a one year deal?

jeanpierre · 05-05-2020, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Speaking of Free Agents ...

I'm beginning to wonder if the Vikings will bring back Everson Griffen on a one year deal?

Not sure if it's Griffen's asking price or teams or looking at the decline in his number of pressures, tackles; he's got some subpar graded games against mid-tier to elite offensive lines...

05-05-2020, 11:43 AM	#801
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2020 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by K Major I think Mitch was simply a bad pick by Ryan Pace and his scouts. All I see from him over the years is a decent "back up" candidate. Put Trubisky in the same class as Andy Dalton - if the quarterback/offensive coordinator had been there, they'd had lots of success... The pick was bad from the standpoint, the reach to take him, and not having the staff and personnel in place for it to work... K Major likes this.

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2020 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Twitter Oh that would be disastrous. K Major likes this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2020 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Twitter Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Oh that would be disastrous. This is EXACTLY the scenario that I'd been asking should Payton/Loomis' practice of pushing the debt into the future (kinda like Congress) and got me blocked for asking it... It'll be interesting to see if the cap gets rolled back exactly who we'd have to let go, or couldn't be extended because of current, past cap commitments...

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: 2020 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre https://twitter.com/mysportsupdate/s...51159781167105 This is EXACTLY the scenario that I'd been asking should Payton/Loomis' practice of pushing the debt into the future (kinda like Congress) and got me blocked for asking it... It'll be interesting to see if the cap gets rolled back exactly who we'd have to let go, or couldn't be extended because of current, past cap commitments... I would assume the league would override the cap formula based upon the extenuating circumstances. There is no way they would force teams to cut a plethora of players to follow a dramatically declined expected income. The NFL's success depends upon competitive balance above everything. Don't forget, the owners own the league. They can change those type of rules without any player input ... not that players would object. I serious doubt there is anything to worry about down those lines.

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05-05-2020, 04:02 PM	#806
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2020 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I would assume the league would override the cap formula based upon the extenuating circumstances. There is no way they would force teams to cut a plethora of players to follow a dramatically declined expected income. The NFL's success depends upon competitive balance above everything. Don't forget, the owners own the league. They can change those type of rules without any player input ... not that players would object. I serious doubt there is anything to worry about down those lines. The realist in me would agree with you, however... Keep in mind, we're not exactly on the Commissioner's Christmas Card List, and I don't know that Gayle Benson has the stroke among the owners that Tommy-boy had... And this could give a few teams the opportunity to breakthrough on us...

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,051 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2020 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre https://twitter.com/AroundTheNFL/sta...64362271354881 Kind of surprised he is still out there. His price tag may have run off some teams perhaps. jeanpierre likes this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,051 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2020 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Speaking of Free Agents ... I'm beginning to wonder if the Vikings will bring back Everson Griffen on a one year deal?

05-05-2020, 05:15 PM	#810
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2020 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by K Major Speaking of Free Agents ... I'm beginning to wonder if the Vikings will bring back Everson Griffen on a one year deal? Not sure if it's Griffen's asking price or teams or looking at the decline in his number of pressures, tackles; he's got some subpar graded games against mid-tier to elite offensive lines...
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