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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by K Major Trade Kamara? Now? The Saints are a legitimate SB contender with a 1st ballot HOF QB who is nearing the end of career. The ultimate prize is within reach. If the Saints front office don't ...

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Old 04-12-2020, 05:16 PM   #111
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Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

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Trade Kamara? Now? The Saints are a legitimate SB contender with a 1st ballot HOF QB who is nearing the end of career. The ultimate prize is within reach. If the Saints front office don't intend to pay him what he will expect to receive in his next contract, then retain his services until his contract is expires, then let him go.

What is more valuable here. A unknown @ pick #54 in the upcoming draft or 1 year of AK and a future 3rd rd pick?

AK is Payton's toy. I could be wrong but I just don't see a trade happening with Kamara.
Yup. Pretty much the last thing I could see happening. Given we only have Brees for the near future our best chance is winning now. Why trade an important asset which can contribute to our winning the next couple of Lombardi's for future consideration to be used with a team without their leader (Brees) a couple of years down the road?

It makes no sense whatsoever.
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Old 04-13-2020, 07:57 AM   #112
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Yup. Pretty much the last thing I could see happening. Given we only have Brees for the near future our best chance is winning now. Why trade an important asset which can contribute to our winning the next couple of Lombardi's for future consideration to be used with a team without their leader (Brees) a couple of years down the road?

It makes no sense whatsoever.
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Old 04-14-2020, 02:11 PM   #114
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Payton loves Kamaraís football IQ. I just donít see a trade happening either. There isnít going to be a training camp to hold-out of anyway.
I totally agree Chris. If we do trade him then we have to teach the system to another running back during a shortened off season. Kamara knows the system and excels in it. I just wish Payton would not try to make him into a bell cow.....that's why he was hurt all last year. He is not a feature back but Payton treats him like one.
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Old 04-16-2020, 06:24 PM   #115
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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2020 New Orleans Saints Ė Special Teams Veterans

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 Ė Drew Brees (FA 2020), 7 - Taysom Hill (RFA 2020/Tendered First Round)

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 44 - Taquan Mizzel, 27o - Dwayne Washington (FA 2020)

FB (1) 46 - Michael Burton (FA 2020), 30 - Ricky Ortiz

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 10 - Tra'Quan Smith, 17 - Emmanuel Butler (RFC 2020), 15 - Maurice Harris (RFC 2020)

WR-S (2) 81 - Krishawn Hogan, 84 - LilíJordan Humphrey

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 73 - Ethan Greenidge

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat (FA 2020), 62 - Nick Easton

C (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 63 - Cameron Tom (FA 2020)

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 64 - Will Clapp

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 68 - Derrick Kelly (RFC 2020)

TE (3) 87 - Jared Cook, 89 - Josh Hill, 86 - Jason Vander Laan, 45 - Garrett Griffin, 85 - Cole Wick (RFC 2020), 88 - Mitchell Loewen (RFC 2020)

WR-Z (2) 18 - Emmanuel Sanders (FA 2020), 11 - Deonte Harris, 14 - Tim White (RFC 2020), 16 - TommyLee Lewis (RFC 2020)


DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 96 - Carl Granderson, 57 - Noah Spence (FA 2020)

NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown, 99 - Shy Tuttle, 95 - Taylor Stallworth

DT3 (2) 93 - David Onyemata (FA 2020), 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 77 - Jalen Dalton (RFC 2020)

LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 97 - Mario Edwards

WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2020), 53 - Chase Hansen

MLB (2) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 52 - Craig Robertson, 55 - Kaden Elliss

SLB (2) 54 - Kiko Alonso, 51 - Colton Jumper (ERFA 2020)

NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 21 - Patrick Robinson, 00 - Deatrick Nichols (FA 2020)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 34 - Justin Hardee (RFA 2020)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 48 - J.T. Gray (ERFA 2020), 33 - Saquan Hampton

SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins (FA 2020), 36 - D.J. Swearinger (2020 RFA 2020), 31 - Chris Johnson (2020 RFA 2020)

LCB (2) 20 - Janoris Jenkins, P. J. Williams (FA 2020)


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (RFA 2020)

RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris, 44 - Taquan Mizzel


90-man Roster Count - Total: 70; Offense: 33; Defense: 34; Kicking: 3

KEY:

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Free Agent (FA 2020)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2020)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2020)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2020)

Injured, Injured/Reserve, Injured/PUP

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Saints need another pass rusher opposite Cam J.
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Saints need another pass rusher opposite Cam J.
That's it. That's priority #1. Look it, you get another long defensive end off top of the draft here's what it does...

First, with enough darts, odds are you're gonna have at least one guy opposite Cam to make the vise work...

Second, Cam's not getting younger and when his production drops off suddenly, you should still have two effective DEs...

Third, you've got contracts coming for Ramczyk, Lattimore - big contracts; then you'll have leverage the following year if Davenport is still having availability problems...

Fourth, you're making a tournament run, you can keep Cam fresh, hell change 'em out like a hockey front line - keep running fresh horses at a tired offensive line...

Fifth, if studs like Epenesa or Gross-Matos are there, those are 10-15 year cornerstones like Cam you can invest a 1st vs speed rushers who tale off in their late 20s...

Sixth, all this secondary talent amassed is just BS if you're giving a playoff QB with a playoff offensive line four-plus seconds to release the ball downfield on 3rd & longs...

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results and for three straight seasons, we ran outta pass rushers in the tournament...
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But more importantly, we now have 2 playmakers @ WR who hardly drop footballs thrown in their zip code.
Eight, we need at least eight (8) sets of reliable hands between WR, TE and RB to go through the season and the tournament...

Right Now we have six (6) - Michael Thomas, Emmanuel Sander, Jared Cook, Josh Hill, Taysom Hill, Alvin Kamara...

Not having an offseason to evaluate whether Tra'quan Smith is healthy, renewed, or other, that is, is there enough there to trust, puts pressure to take two options in the draft...
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