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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by gosaints1 “Overreacted” is subjective. It’s how you view it, no doubt others. I don’t discount your view on things, I just see there are other views, including mine, that it was passionate and emotional commentary. It very ...
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09-29-2020, 11:38 AM | #51 |
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Re: M Jenkins and Michael Thomas killed the Saints
Originally Posted by gosaints1
It's fine to play the "I just listen and don't rock the boat" position, if that's your thing, man. I happen to believe it's passive and unproductive. People are out there spreading absolute lies that are poisoning people's minds, and leading to the kind of idiotic reaction that Brees got. What he said was perfectly valid. Because it's obvious most people don't care for the time and place that the protests were happening. He wasn't commenting on their cause, itself. So if he can't have that opinion, why do the players deserve a pass for theirs, and acting like children?
I believe it is the responsibility of every adult to stand up for what he believes is right. I also believe it is the responsibility of every adult to know what they believe and why. The players cannot defend, with any logic, the kind of people they are propping up as victims in their petty social justice war. And short of being able to do so, they don't have the right to just get what they want from everyone else. It matters not whether they feel differently now than they did three years ago. Nothing has changed in three years to support their cause. A black man gets shot by the police, and it doesn't matter that there is video evidence of the suspect resisting arrest. It doesn't matter that more white people are killed by police, despite the black population accounting for the majority of crime in this country. These are little things called facts and reason. So I supported Drew's initial stance. I do not support his decision to crawfish. |
If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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09-29-2020, 11:40 AM | #52 |
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Re: M Jenkins and Michael Thomas killed the Saints
Originally Posted by rezburna
You should be able to make a statement contrary to the beliefs of your teammates. I don't think anyone really believes that any such unwritten "rule" should apply - except for when it comes to BLM and/or BLM driven issues.
All the more reason to speak out against BLM. If people dont start standing up to that corrupt movement things will only get worse. This idea that criticism of BLM is taboo needs to be called out at every opportunity. Yeah, one will probably get called a racist, a white supremacist and/or a nazi. So what? Those magic words only have meaning if we let them. |
09-29-2020, 11:42 AM | #54 |
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre
I know that team chemistry is real but as I mentioned we wouldn’t be talking about something that happened over the summer if the team was playing better. All this could have and should have been handled better. If they let the media destroy their chemistry then shame on the leaders of this team.
A strong team can overcome disagreements and disappointment. Maybe this team wasn’t a strong as we thought but on field performance as it relates to the coaches and players is what’s hindering this team. Stats tell the reason why we are 1-2. Defense can’t get off the field and the offense can’t stay on. Payton refuses to stick to the run. These are our main issues all this other stuff is speculation. The thing that made us dangerous on offense was the intermediate routes in the middle of the field. We no longer have that in our arsenal with Brees. Or WRs have zero YAC. Only AK has YAC because of where he is catching the ball on screens and option route at the line of scrimmage. |
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Everything dealing with Black people isn’t BLM.
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Re: M Jenkins and Michael Thomas killed the Saints
Originally Posted by burningmetal
Nothing wrong with your choices and/or actions. Nothing wrong with mine, or others either, so long as no laws are being broken. I’ve put boots on in combat, proudly retired from the Army, miss it, a lot, lol..., but I really don’t need anyone intimating what my “responsibilities” are, or “should” be. My guess is D.Brees, M.Thomas and M.Jenkins feel the same..., but I won’t speak for them. They’ve done it themselves already.
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Re: M Jenkins and Michael Thomas killed the Saints
Originally Posted by burningmetal
You're never going to change his mind. I've only blocked 2 people on this site in almost 20 years. And he is one of them.
He has an entitled victim mentality and believes that a black person who commits a crime is somehow white people's fault. He is racist as hell. You're talking to a guy that thinks that he should get reparations from white people. That's where I drew the line and blocked him. Too bad too. Good guy to talk football with. But with all the politics now in sports, it was just too much for me. |
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