2022 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints

AsylumGuido · 03-03-2021, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Onyemata restructure, release of veteran TEs gains ~$7M...

https://twitter.com/ByLukeJohnson/st...30654988120067

The only thing gained by the release of one of those TE's is the distance from fumbles, dropped passes, and mishandled catches that turn into interceptions.

AsylumGuido · 03-03-2021, 05:18 PM

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jeanpierre · 03-03-2021, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The only thing gained by the release of one of those TE's is the distance from fumbles, dropped passes, and mishandled catches that turn into interceptions.

release of one of those TE's? Why not just name the one?

jeanpierre · 03-03-2021, 11:38 PM

Saints restructure Onyemata; release TE's Cook, Hill - YouTube

FinSaint · 03-04-2021, 04:29 AM

I think Trautman will be a best and I do like the fact that he might be further up the TE depth chart come next season as that'll be good for his development.

jeanpierre · 03-04-2021, 07:54 AM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

I think Trautman will be a best and I do like the fact that he might be further up the TE depth chart come next season as that'll be good for his development.

In my mind, Trautman, by the end of his rookie season, was right there with Josh Hill at the top of the depth chart...

Jared Cook was just incapable of adapting and receiving criticism on how he needed to adjust in the Saints offense...

And then there was the inability to get open on his own, and a few costly turnovers...

AsylumGuido · 03-04-2021, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

release of one of those TE's? Why not just name the one?

Naming wasn't required. Only one of those two provided any cap relief (Josh Hill) and the other (Jared Cook) was obviously the one with the issues mentioned.

Personally, I expect Josh Hill to be re-signed at a more cap friendly rate later.

jeanpierre · 03-04-2021, 09:59 AM

jeanpierre · 03-04-2021, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Naming wasn't required. Only one of those two provided any cap relief (Josh Hill) and the other (Jared Cook) was obviously the one with the issues mentioned.

Personally, I expect Josh Hill to be re-signed at a more cap friendly rate later.

Josh Hill has been a soldier and frankly there's a double-standard on Payton's part in making sure guys that put it all out there for the team get commensurately compensated...

I get it's a business, but that's a convenient excuse for Payton et al, and yet we overspend on others who are useless or are a distraction in the clubhouse...

lee909 · 03-04-2021, 01:30 PM

Reckon Hill might be back on a short deal myself.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,211	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre Onyemata restructure, release of veteran TEs gains ~$7M... https://twitter.com/ByLukeJohnson/st...30654988120067 The only thing gained by the release of one of those TE's is the distance from fumbles, dropped passes, and mishandled catches that turn into interceptions. stickman likes this.

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03-03-2021, 07:55 PM	#183
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido The only thing gained by the release of one of those TE's is the distance from fumbles, dropped passes, and mishandled catches that turn into interceptions. release of one of those TE's? Why not just name the one? jnormand likes this.

03-04-2021, 04:29 AM	#185
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints I think Trautman will be a best and I do like the fact that he might be further up the TE depth chart come next season as that'll be good for his development. jeanpierre likes this.

03-04-2021, 07:54 AM	#186
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by FinSaint I think Trautman will be a best and I do like the fact that he might be further up the TE depth chart come next season as that'll be good for his development. In my mind, Trautman, by the end of his rookie season, was right there with Josh Hill at the top of the depth chart... Jared Cook was just incapable of adapting and receiving criticism on how he needed to adjust in the Saints offense... And then there was the inability to get open on his own, and a few costly turnovers...

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03-04-2021, 08:45 AM	#187
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,211	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre release of one of those TE's? Why not just name the one? Naming wasn't required. Only one of those two provided any cap relief (Josh Hill) and the other (Jared Cook) was obviously the one with the issues mentioned. Personally, I expect Josh Hill to be re-signed at a more cap friendly rate later. jeanpierre likes this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Naming wasn't required. Only one of those two provided any cap relief (Josh Hill) and the other (Jared Cook) was obviously the one with the issues mentioned. Personally, I expect Josh Hill to be re-signed at a more cap friendly rate later. Josh Hill has been a soldier and frankly there's a double-standard on Payton's part in making sure guys that put it all out there for the team get commensurately compensated... I get it's a business, but that's a convenient excuse for Payton et al, and yet we overspend on others who are useless or are a distraction in the clubhouse... jnormand likes this.

03-04-2021, 01:30 PM	#190
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,803 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Reckon Hill might be back on a short deal myself.