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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by jeanpierre Want no part of Jameis Winston; and if Bruce Arians, who's coached some pretty quarterbacks (i.e. - he knows quarterbacks) let Winston walk, that should be speaking volumes... I didn't know being a QB in the ...

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Old 03-02-2021, 04:24 AM   #151
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Want no part of Jameis Winston; and if Bruce Arians, who's coached some pretty quarterbacks (i.e. - he knows quarterbacks) let Winston walk, that should be speaking volumes...

I didn't know being a QB in the NFL was so dependent on looks.
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Old 03-02-2021, 04:32 AM   #152
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I didn't know being a QB in the NFL was so dependent on looks.
Well, how does turning the ball over look early, often, then playing catch-up racking up stats, but still losing look?

And Arians obviously saw something, or didn't see something in Winston that didn't look right.
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Old 03-02-2021, 09:10 AM   #153
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I was just referring to your point of Arians having coached "some pretty QBs"
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Well, let's see how this plays out.

There is currently one QB under contract in New Orleans.
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he got a case of the fumblelitis that he's got to skill correct, but Payton saw enough to believe he could be the starter.
I'm doubtful that skill is what it will take to overcome the fumbling issues. His hand size may be the issue. At 8.75 inches it is almost a full inch smaller than the average NFL QB's hand (9.6). Brees is at 10.25, a full inch and a half larger than Hill. Russell Wilson also has 10.25 hands. In comparison, Michael Vick had small hands (8.5) and averaged almost a full fumble per start over his career. That ratio was consistent throughout (ie. he never improved).
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Richard Sherman landing spots hub: Latest news, rumors, scouting report and interested teams

Richard Sherman was one of the elite cornerbacks in the NFL for nearly a decade, even though his best days may be behind him as the three-time All-Pro enters free agency for the second time in his career. Sherman is still one of the top cornerbacks in this free agent class despite a 2020 season that was hindered by a calf injury that limited him to just five games.

When healthy, Sherman is still one of the game's top cornerbacks. Just look at his 2019 season, when he logged 61 tackles, 11 passes defensed and three interceptions in earning his fifth Pro Bowl appearance. Opposing cornerbacks had just a 62.3 passer rating when targeting Sherman, who allowed just one touchdown on the year. Teams courting Sherman in free agency will be looking for the player that still is one of the game's top cornerbacks when healthy -- a playmaker and a leader for a young defense. Sherman believes he still has two good years left before hanging up his cleats for good.

We'll look at every report and rumor for Sherman in free agency below, along with a scouting report on the free agent cornerback. We'll also look at some of the ideal landing spots for Sherman, as the cornerback is set to leave the San Francisco 49ers.

Top free agent landing spots for Sherman

1. New Orleans Saints

How can the Saints afford Sherman in free agency when they are currently $69 million over the salary cap (per Over The Cap)? There is a key reason why New Orleans may court Sherman anyway, as the defense has a deep connection to the "Legion of Boom" days.

Kris Richard was hired as the Saints' defensive backs coach last month, the man who is credited as the architect of the "Legion of Boom" defense -- where Sherman earned three consecutive First-Team All-Pro selections and was the leader on a Seattle Seahawks defense that won Super Bowl XLVIII. The Saints are expected to shift to a Cover-3 scheme in the secondary, where Sherman thrived in Seattle and San Francisco -- so why not entertain the Saints as a possibility.

New Orleans has become one of the best defenses in the NFL over the past two seasons and the Saints have been Super Bowl contenders every season. For a team needing a player to help the Saints capture that elusive second Super Bowl title, why not bring in a leader such as Sherman to get them over the hump. A physical, aggressive corner of Sherman's caliber is just what New Orleans needs.

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Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints

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Richard Sherman landing spots hub: Latest news, rumors, scouting report and interested teams

Richard Sherman was one of the elite cornerbacks in the NFL for nearly a decade, even though his best days may be behind him as the three-time All-Pro enters free agency for the second time in his career. Sherman is still one of the top cornerbacks in this free agent class despite a 2020 season that was hindered by a calf injury that limited him to just five games.

When healthy, Sherman is still one of the game's top cornerbacks. Just look at his 2019 season, when he logged 61 tackles, 11 passes defensed and three interceptions in earning his fifth Pro Bowl appearance. Opposing cornerbacks had just a 62.3 passer rating when targeting Sherman, who allowed just one touchdown on the year. Teams courting Sherman in free agency will be looking for the player that still is one of the game's top cornerbacks when healthy -- a playmaker and a leader for a young defense. Sherman believes he still has two good years left before hanging up his cleats for good.

We'll look at every report and rumor for Sherman in free agency below, along with a scouting report on the free agent cornerback. We'll also look at some of the ideal landing spots for Sherman, as the cornerback is set to leave the San Francisco 49ers.

Top free agent landing spots for Sherman

1. New Orleans Saints

How can the Saints afford Sherman in free agency when they are currently $69 million over the salary cap (per Over The Cap)? There is a key reason why New Orleans may court Sherman anyway, as the defense has a deep connection to the "Legion of Boom" days.

Kris Richard was hired as the Saints' defensive backs coach last month, the man who is credited as the architect of the "Legion of Boom" defense -- where Sherman earned three consecutive First-Team All-Pro selections and was the leader on a Seattle Seahawks defense that won Super Bowl XLVIII. The Saints are expected to shift to a Cover-3 scheme in the secondary, where Sherman thrived in Seattle and San Francisco -- so why not entertain the Saints as a possibility.

New Orleans has become one of the best defenses in the NFL over the past two seasons and the Saints have been Super Bowl contenders every season. For a team needing a player to help the Saints capture that elusive second Super Bowl title, why not bring in a leader such as Sherman to get them over the hump. A physical, aggressive corner of Sherman's caliber is just what New Orleans needs.
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I'm doubtful that skill is what it will take to overcome the fumbling issues. His hand size may be the issue. At 8.75 inches it is almost a full inch smaller than the average NFL QB's hand (9.6). Brees is at 10.25, a full inch and a half larger than Hill. Russell Wilson also has 10.25 hands. In comparison, Michael Vick had small hands (8.5) and averaged almost a full fumble per start over his career. That ratio was consistent throughout (ie. he never improved).
Well, Brett Favre had large hands and had a high fumble rate...

While I don't dispute it as a factor, ball security can be coached up...

And Joe Burrow, No. 1 pick last year, has small hands which he pokes fun at himself...



ESPN.com | Why the NFL combine built a myth around QB hand size, a measurement that doesn't mean anything
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I was just referring to your point of Arians having coached "some pretty QBs"
Ah, that English language-barrier thing...
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