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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Billy, you can\'t differentiate between \"CAN\" and \"DON\'T\"? We\'re not arguing that penalties, missed blocks and dropped balls can\'t kill drives. We are arguing that they do not always kill drives. Turnovers DO. Any if your opponent fumbles the ball ...

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Old 12-03-2003, 10:48 PM   #91
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Billy, you can\'t differentiate between \"CAN\" and \"DON\'T\"?

We\'re not arguing that penalties, missed blocks and dropped balls can\'t kill drives. We are arguing that they do not always kill drives. Turnovers DO. Any if your opponent fumbles the ball and you get it back it\'s called a change of possession and begins a new drive. Turnovers DO. I\'ll take a penalty, missed block or dropped ball any day over a turnover and so would any coach in the league.

Apples to apples...a turnover is more costly than any of the others.

I can\'t understand why I\'m having to argue this... :casstet:
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Old 12-03-2003, 11:11 PM   #92
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Funny, and I thought I said:

Billy, dropped passes, penalties, missed blocks, etc. happen all the time and they\'re not drive stoppers.
Man you can\'t even get the facts of this argument straight. You even quoted the above statement in one of your old posts and we started an entire thread about it.

You just said:

I know it\'s important for you to be right but the facts don\'t support your arguement. You said the penalties DON\'T kill drives. You didn\'t say sometimes they do, Or, it could kill drives. Nope!! You boldly said that \"Penalties don\'t kill drives.\" Now you change it to \" They can kill drives.\"
Go reread this Billy and see if you can keep all the facts straight this time. I swear man, this stuff is comical.
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Old 12-03-2003, 11:18 PM   #93
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LummOx --

You didn\'t step into a normal arguement here. Nope !! You stepped into an arguement between myself and WhoDat. It\'s refreshing to have a new face like yours in the arguement, but UNDERSTAND that this is some serious stuff. I appreicate you educating me on how \"turnovers\" work, but you really need to read the WHOLE thread BEFORE posting. The arguement was about this statement :

Billy, dropped passes, penalties, missed blocks, etc. happen all the time and they\'re not drive stoppers
I can clearly differentiate between \"CAN\" and \"DON\'T\" Why you ask? Because this is no ordinary arguement. I have a hard enough time arguing with WhoDat and he doesn\'t need your help skirting around the statements that he makes. He does just fine by himself.

Your input is noted though

[Edited on 4/12/2003 by BillyC]
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Old 12-03-2003, 11:24 PM   #94
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Yet another Billy all-star moment.

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Billy, dropped passes, penalties, missed blocks, etc. happen all the time and they\'re not drive stoppers.
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Man this is like taking candy from a baby. So you\'re trying to tell me if we are faced with 1st and 20 because of a holding penalty that this isn\'t a drive killer?
OK Billy, just so we\'re clear, what I said above is that penalties and whatnot do not always kill drives. You\'ve argued this point for days and continue to, but you just said:

Penalties don\'t kill drives in no uncertain terms like a turnover, but they put offenses in next to impossible odds of picking up a first down. Especially, when they keep putting themselves in those situations. Do they have a chance? You bet.
So which is it Billy? Does a penalty always kill a drive? That\'s what you\'ve been arguing for days. Now you\'re saying, well, not all the time - which is exactly the point I made in the first place...

If there was EVER a time for a brand spanking new BnB picture to display foot-in-mouth or just an act of sheer stupidity this is it. All I ask BnB is that you don\'t put OWNED on it. Make it say BILLY. Please.

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Old 12-03-2003, 11:32 PM   #95
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If there was EVER a time for a brand spanking new BnB picture to display foot-in-mouth or just an act of sheer stupidity this is it. All I ask BnB is that you don\'t put OWNED on it. Make it say BILLY. Please
Does the word HYPOCRITE mean anything to you WhoDat? Stupidity? Sounds like JoeSam might need to practice a little editing on you? Whatcha say JoeSam?

First place you made the statement. Not me !! I never said that penalties ALWAYS kill drives. No sir. Not me. Stupidity sir? That\'s reserved for HYPOCRITE like yourself. How does that shoe leather taste now WhoDat. Before you start losing an arguement and just plain out start lying, you should be prepard to get what ya give WhoDat.

Can ya hear me?

Or is your stupidity making you hard of hearing??

[Edited on 4/12/2003 by BillyC]

[Edited on 4/12/2003 by BillyC]
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Old 12-03-2003, 11:40 PM   #96
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Lummox\'s opinion is not welcome in the thread or something?
Lum, my man, I wouldn\'t let anyone Beetch slap me like that.
I didn\'t say he wasn\'t welcome. I said to get his facts straight. I can tell y\'all have been waiting to give me hell. Home Sweet Home..........
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Old 12-03-2003, 11:45 PM   #97
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Gator - stop instigating.

Billy - man you are comical.

You can post till ya blue in the face and drink all the WhoTang ya want to, but you are wrong about the above statement. Feel free to step up to the plate WhoDat.

The fact is that penalties DO kill drives.

Penalties kill drives and WhoDat is WRONG.
Now, are you going to try and argue that you did not use the word \"always\" so therefore your meaning was not that you believe that penalties fo not always kill drives? That was NOT your initial intent and anyone who reads this board can see that. You tune has changed Billy. I\'m not sure if you think that you zinged me on with that last post, but again I am laughing... hard. Seriously, give up, for your own good. You\'re only hurting your credibility on this board.
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Old 12-03-2003, 11:46 PM   #98
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I would have edited it but dumb as I am I don\'t know what HYPOCRITE is? Besides if you two aren\'t tired of argueing this point then so be it. I guess you two can just keep going.
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Old 12-03-2003, 11:47 PM   #99
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I can tell y\'all have been waiting to give me hell. Home Sweet Home..........
See what happens when you go away for a little while, it builds up so you get the whole load when you get back.LOL
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Old 12-03-2003, 11:48 PM   #100
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Let\'s try this again, Billy, shall we. I\'ll give you a chance to come out of your Tang coma for a minute and try to see the error of your ways.

Billy, dropped passes, penalties, missed blocks, etc. happen all the time and they\'re not drive stoppers.
Is that statement TRUE or FALSE? There is no in between. You have to look at that statement in the absolute. TRUE or FALSE?
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