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Outside Linebacker 21 23.33%
Tackle (Offense) 48 53.33%
Safety 12 13.33%
Inside Linebacker 17 18.89%
Center 26 28.89%
Cornerback 29 32.22%
Wide Receiver 32 35.56%
Guard 9 10.00%
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2014 NFL Draft

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Draft Prospects Watch List By Round... Prospects I’d like selected per round are italicized ... My favorite players in this draft are LB Jerimiah Attaochu, WR Jordan Matthews, LB Max Bullough, CB Pierre Desir, CB Walt Aikens... Most Impressive Combine, ...

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Old 03-30-2014, 08:25 AM   #691
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Re: 2014 NFL Draft

Draft Prospects Watch List By Round...

Prospects I’d like selected per round are italicized...

My favorite players in this draft are LB Jerimiah Attaochu, WR Jordan Matthews, LB Max Bullough, CB Pierre Desir, CB Walt Aikens...

Most Impressive Combine, ProDay performances have been by LB Max Bullough, OL Russell Bodine, LB Howard Jones and WR Jordan Matthews; and add Jerry Attaochu...

Round 1 (27) C.J. Mosley, LB, Alabama; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 234 lbs.
Round 1 (27) Kony Ealy, Missouri; Height; 6’ 4”; Weight: 273 lbs.
Round 1 (27) Xavier Su’a-Filo, OL, UCLA; Height; 6’ 4”; Weight: 307 lbs.
Round 1 (27) Jordan Matthews, WR, Vanderbilt; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight 212 lbs.
Round 1 (27) Jerimiah Attaochu, OLB, Ga Tech; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 252 lbs.

Round 2 (58) JuWuan James, OT, Tennessee; Height: 6’ 6”; Weight: 311 lbs.
Round 2 (58) Troy Niklas, TE, Notre Dame; Height: 6’ 6”; Weight: 270 lbs.
Round 2 (58) Martavis Bryant, WR, Clemson; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 211 lbs.
Round 2 (58) Pierre Desir, CB, Lindenwood; Height: 6’ 1”; Weight: 195 lbs.
Round 2 (58) Donte Moncrief, WR, Ole Miss; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight 221 lbs.


Round 3 (91) Weston Richburg, C, Colorado St; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight 298 lbs.
Round 3 (91) Billy Turner, OT, N Dakota St; Height: 6’ 5”; Weight: 315 lbs.
Round 3 (91) Devonta Freeman, RB, Florida St; Height: 5’ 8”; Weight 206 lbs.
Round 3 (91) Brandon Thomas, G, Clemson; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 316 lbs.
Round 3 (91) Max Bullough, ILB, Michigan St; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight 249 lbs.

Round 4 (122) Josh Mauro, DE, Stanford; Height: 6’ 6”; Weight: 280 lbs.
Round 4 (122) Brent Urban, DL, Virginia; Height: 6’ 7”; Weight: 295 lbs.
Round 4 (122) Kenneth Ladler, FS, Vanderbilt; Height: 6’ 0”; Weight: 207 lbs.
Round 4 (122) Daniel McCullers, NT, Tennessee; Height: 6’ 7”; Weight: 352 lbs.
Round 4 (122) Jerrick McKinnon, RB, Georgia Southern; Height: 5’ 09”; Weight: 209 lbs.

Round 5 (155) James White, RB, Wisconsin; Height: 5’ 9”; Weight: 204 lbs.
Round 5 (155) Kevin Norwood, WR, Alabama; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 199 lbs.
Round 5 (155) Walt Aikens, CB, Liberty; Height: 6’ 0”; Weight: 198 lbs.
Round 5 (155) Tyler Larsen, C, Utah State; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 313 lbs.
Round 5 (157) Russell Bodine, OL, UNC; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 310 lbs.

Round 6 (186) Aaron Lynch, DE, So Florida; Height: 6’ 5”; Weight: 249 lbs.
Round 6 (186) Zack Kerr, NT, Delaware; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 334 lbs.
Round 6 (186) Jeff Janis, WR, Saginaw Valley St; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 219 lbs.
Round 6 (186) Howard Jones, OLB, Shepherd; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 235 lbs.
Round 6 (186) Justin Britt, OT, Missouri; Height: 6’ 6”; Weight: 324 lbs.

Round 7/UDFA Jeff Matthews, QB, Cornell; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 223 lbs.
Round 7/UDFA Quincy Enunwa, WR, Nebraska; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 225 lbs.
Round 7/UDFA Gabe Ikard, C, Oklahoma; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 304 lbs.
Round 7/UDFA Matt Armstrong, C, Grand Valley St; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 302 lbs.
Round 7/UDFA Austin Wentworth, OG, Fresno St; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 315 lbs.
Round 7/UDFA Zach Fulton, OG, Tennessee; Height: 6’ 5”; Weight: 316 lbs.
Round 7/UDFA Donald Hawkins, OT, Texas; Height: 6’ 5”; Weight: 301 lbs.
Round 7/UDFA Corneilus Lucas, OT, Kansas St; Height: 6’ 8”; Weight: 316 lbs.
Round 7/UDFA Zach Moore, DE, Concordia-St. Paul; Height: 6’ 5”; Weight: 269 lbs.
Round 7/UDFA Caleb Lavey, ILB, Oklahoma St; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 240 lbs.
Round 7/UDFA Marcus Whitfield, OLB, Maryland; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 236 lbs.
Round 7/UDFA Shaquil Barrett, OLB, Colorado St; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 260 lbs.
Round 7/UDFA Marquis Flowers, OLB, Arizona; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 236 lbs.
Round 7/UDFA Sean Parker, DB, Washington; Height: 5’ 10”; Weight: 193 lbs.
Round 7/UDFA Jonathan Dowling, DB, West Kentucky: 6’ 1”; Weight: 195 lbs.
Round 7/UDFA Ty Zimmerman, DB, Kansas St; Height: 6’ 1”; Weight: 200 lbs.
Round 7/UDFA Richie Leone, P, Houston; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 211 lbs.

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Round 1 - 27

So many freaking factors, Just give me impact, a game changer, the keystone

But from here on out i know what i want and think i have been honest as to availability and reach.

Round 2 - 58 - Weston Richburg OC/OG Colorado St, 6033 300 5.10


Pittsburgh defensive tackle Aaron Donald gets all the raves after the senior bowl and sky rockets up draft boards. BUT Weston was the only player to handle Donald all week at the Senior Bowl. So there is proof once again OC get no respect! He lightning quick and has all the bag of tricks, better yet he knows how to use them. football IQ is second to none. arm length 33 3/8 nice. Durable, 49-game starter. also seeing duty at guard and tackle.

How he fits - sweeps, screens and shows impressive quickness and change of direction Makes all of the line calls and keeps his head on a swivel to help teammates when uncovered.

By no means a finished product either. needs to add some bulk and work on blocking at the second level and run blocking. get him some nasty to his game

Drop off at OC is to great for the saints to wait. besides i will be slightly surprised if he is on the board. coach the kid up and you got something special in the making. next Alex Mack? Maybe not but he’ll be your starting center for the next 10 years.

Round 3 - 91 - Charles Simm RB WVU 6000 214 4.48

ok he doesn’t have a lot of wiggle, but he can hit the home run and he is probably the best running back in terms of running, blocking and combination of catching. Sound familiar? PT JR. Over the years we have learned the worth of a back that can do it all in our offense and well PT aint getting any younger.

You have the Battle between Ingram and Robinson for the power back roll. Also there is Cadet, a player i have been waiting for but i have just about given up on,

He aint Darren but he can help fill the void. One of the best all around backs in recent years,

Round 4 - 126 - Dontae Johnson; CB/S, North Carolina State 6021 200 4.45

Johnson is an underrated ball hawk who has played both corner back and safety in college, and he’s also spent time as the team’s slot defender.

Here is my first true Developmental pick for the draft. Here is why

2013: Started all 12 games, with five at corner back and seven at free safety.
2012: Started all 13 games. corner back
2011: Played in 13 games and started two at linebacker in a 4-2-5 lineup.
2010: Played in 12 games and started one.

versatility and plenty of upside to coach with and has played all over the place with a solid level of success at each one. Solid tackling skills, solid run support and coverage ability above average but needs some coaching up and time at one position to develop. 2 to 3 three years you might have a gem for the draft.

I am gambling that he will last this long and hope his measurable do not move him higher up the board. At the same time i maybe reaching. lol

Man Crush from the Beauty shows: 11.06 60-yard shuttle. dam.

Round 5 - 167 - Russell Bodine OG/OC North Carolina 6031 310 5.18


Nasty Nasty Nasty. Love a guy that likes to finish blocks. Good initial quickness and power and projects nicely as either a center or guard. Very good at sealing and turning defenders in the run game to create small creases. Pass Blocking needs work but nothing coaching can not solve. Works well at the second level. Should be ready to step in when all the big contract at OG are up for renewal. In the mean time you have a swing man at both OG position and can step right in at OC in a pinch without to much of a hitch in the offense.

Saints go from a BIG ? in the middle to problem solved in just two picks.

Round 5 - 169 - Kevin Norwood WR Alabama 6020 198 4.48

possession receiver, reliable hands, good route runner, Plenty of experience in the slot, outside he works the side lines extremely well, adjusts well to poorly placed balls, impressive catch radius.solid effort in his blocking game. Nothing to amaze you just a solid all around WR. with a draft so deep at WR there is no way he would be around in any other draft this late. BARGAIN BASEMENT SHOPPING


Round 6 - 202 - Deandre Coleman DT/DE UCLA 6046 314 5.06 (1.73)

Versatile, violent break-out interior disruptor. Great size with decent length and overall athleticism...... blah blah blah. Run stuffer at this point that needs to get some serious coaching up in the pass rush department. then he got to Senior Bowl he pushed Oklahoma's Gabe Ikard and Arkansas' Travis Swanson all over the field. but it left people questioning where this passionate play all season. In other words are you getting a contract year only type of player.
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BUT the talent is there so here is my "wild card" pick as diamond in the rough that can sever as part of the rotation and as time goes by and the coaching sinks in and the players boot in his butt, we may have found ourselves with a solid rotation when Bunkley comes up for contract renewal. If he is a player that preforms when it is a money year you have not risk much.

Take the high risk high rewards in this round. remember he came into the season as a solid third round prospect with a bullet. started just 13 games over his career

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Richburg warrants a late second round pick, but as deep as the skill positions are, I'd pass and grab Bodine in the 5th round and develop him as Armstead...

Sims is ago but the Georgia Southern RB Jerrick McKinnon has more upside (strength, speed) and can be had with a fourth round pick; and we have time this season with the RB depth we have...

If Norwood slips to the fifth as many project, it'd be a shame because he has the makings of a long pro career with his skill set and had better speed than he's given credit; he'll have to work, but he'll be a great teammate...

Don't get nor like players like Coleman; all that talent, and you hate to use the word lazy without knowing a player, but that's what comes to mind, and for what the NFL life can do for someone, can't stand players that take it for granted...

Dontae Johnson ever gets settled at a position and learns his craft, he's gonna surprise; and if he works hard, he'd be comparable to Richard Sherman, taken late, developed, top flight at his positon...

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Saints have been awarded ten (10) compensatory picks since practice began with Marques Colston being the only player of significance...


Team Year Name Round Pick Player Position College
Saints1995Travis Davis734242DBNotre Dame
Saints1996Terry Guess533165WRGardner-Webb
Saints1996Todd Malone637204WRAlabama
Saints1996Henry Lusk737246TEUtah
Saints1998Ron Warner750239LBKansas
Saints2000Chad Morton537166RBUSC
Saints2000Sherrod Gideon634200WRSo. Miss
Saints2004Colby Bockwoldt739240LBBYU
Saints2006Marques Colston744252WRHofstra
Saints2011Nate Bussey740243LBIllinois

In contrast, Baltimore, since their existence in 1997 (Compensatory Picks began in 1994) lead the league with Thirty-seven Picks!

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
Richburg warrants a late second round pick, but as deep as the skill positions are, I'd pass and grab Bodine in the 5th round and develop him as Armstead...
Bodine is not ready to start in the nfl and needs work. we need a starter right now.
Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
Sims is ago but the Georgia Southern RB Jerrick McKinnon has more upside (strength, speed) and can be had with a fourth round pick; and we have time this season with the RB depth we have...
Simms is the total package ready to go from day one.
Jerrick McKinnon read-option quarterback, Raw at RB and WR not to mention abilty to block. great athlete but needs a ton of work. I am looking at win now before Drew is done here.

Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
Don't get nor like players like Coleman; all that talent, and you hate to use the word lazy without knowing a player, but that's what comes to mind, and for what the NFL life can do for someone, can't stand players that take it for granted...
That is why i put a disclaimer on the kid but i felt that about Jenkins last year and a light went on.

But i also look at the fact that the the entire defense was under performing and there was reported issues in the locker room and coaching. in other words cal was all messed up inside and it showed on the field, Bears went 0-9 in the Pac-12 in the first season for coach Sonny Dykes. It is a little difficult learning three different systems in 3 years , which also changed his role from year to year. even with that he was a pretty solid contributor all year and also got more attention from other teams than the year before.

There is the flip side of the story also, if the program and his training was not so messed up i would not go with him as a diamond in a rough which has its own risk but a wild card diamond in the rough is a bit riskier i admit. It is the upside with the kid at this point in the draft is to great not to justify the risks involved with the pick when you look at the big picture. it is a gut thing but i think the senior bowl was a fresh new start for him.

roll the dice and see what the interviews reveal

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Originally Posted by hagan714 View Post
Bodine is not ready to start in the nfl and needs work. we need a starter right now.
Not so sure Richburg is ready to call plays right away, either; I like the guy, but for a second rounder, in this special, unusually deep draft, take a first round wide receiver any other year in the second round...


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Simms is the total package ready to go from day one.
Jerrick McKinnon read-option quarterback, Raw at RB and WR not to mention abilty to block. great athlete but needs a ton of work. I am looking at win now before Drew is done here.
Kev, we've got PT, Ingram, Robinson, and Cadet; so the kid can take most of the season to learn the offense, the pro game...look again at his measurables - unbelievable speed/strength combination...


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That is why i put a disclaimer on the kid but i felt that about Jenkins last year and a light went on.

But i also look at the fact that the the entire defense was under performing and there was reported issues in the locker room and coaching. in other words cal was all messed up inside and it showed on the field, Bears went 0-9 in the Pac-12 in the first season for coach Sonny Dykes. It is a little difficult learning three different systems in 3 years , which also changed his role from year to year. even with that he was a pretty solid contributor all year and also got more attention from other teams than the year before.

There is the flip side of the story also, if the program and his training was not so messed up i would not go with him as a diamond in a rough which has its own risk but a wild card diamond in the rough is a bit riskier i admit. It is the upside with the kid at this point in the draft is to great not to justify the risks involved with the pick when you look at the big picture. it is a gut thing but i think the senior bowl was a fresh new start for him.

roll the dice and see what the interviews reveal
Had forgotten about the "transition" Cal was going through, Thank You for reminding, correcting me...

I'd still rather roll the dice on an Offensive Lineman as our Depth Chart is pretty thin there...

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
Not so sure Richburg is ready to call plays right away, either; I like the guy, but for a second rounder, in this special, unusually deep draft, take a first round wide receiver any other year in the second round...
He is the option IMO at this point to upgrade an obvious hole at OC unless the saints do something in FA ASAP


Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
I'd still rather roll the dice on an Offensive Lineman as our Depth Chart is pretty thin there...


Ok here you go a long shot that for some reason every year the saints throw a curve ball at us in the draft so here is a possible curve ball

That's why Duvernay-Tardif, who played left tackle at prestigious McGill University, has been pegged not only as the top available talent in the Canadian Football League draft, but also has a great chance to be selected relatively high in the NFL draft this May.
So who is this mystery man? Duvernay-Tardif — who goes by "Larry" — came to McGill as a 253-pound defensive lineman as a freshman before being switched over to the offensive side. Since then, he has settled in at left tackle and become a dominant force. First, CFL teams started paying notice, but now the NFL is all over him, too.
Nine NFL teams watched Duvernay-Tardif at a private workout on Thursday and saw a 6-foot-5, 298-pound player turn in 40-yard dash times of 4.94 to 5.08 seconds, post 34 reps of 225 pounds on the bench press, turn in a 4.59-second shuttle time and broad jump 9 feet, 6 inches. The teams attending — Philadelphia Eagles, San Francisco 49ers, Buffalo Bills, Chicago Bears, Oakland Raiders, Green Bay Packers, New York Jets, Kansas City Chiefs and Arizona Cardinals — had to come away impressed.



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could he be our next say what pick in the draft. Oh by the way any OL with injury history or the remarks "if heathy" late in the draft gets removed from my boards. as if that matter.
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Kev, we've got PT, Ingram, Robinson, and Cadet; so the kid can take most of the season to learn the offense, the pro game...look again at his measurables - unbelievable speed/strength combination...
Ingram vs. Robinson - Next year i think one of the two will be gone. will Robinson continue to hold onto the ball? can Ingram finally becone "The back" we drafted him for?

PT aint any younger and Cadet has been holding onto a roster spot by the skin of his teeth since he got here.

I would go with replacing Cadet if your boy can do some return duties.

Simms is a the replacement for Darren. he aint Darren but like Darren you can line him up all over the p;ace.

2015 PT Simms McKinnon and the winner of the Ingram vs. Robinson fight.

the only area of immediate need IMO is OC and you want a player that can start right away that has the lowest learning curve. after that anything goes. The major need for a youth movement is over for the most part. so multi draft picks at any position even safety is cool with me as long as it is a BPA on the board. Depth will be available in this draft.

So draft both i am fine with it

Darren gets replaced and Cadet can walk at this point, he has made this team by the skin of his teeth for a couple so years now and i have not seen anything he can do that can not be replaced and easily up graded.

Simms has the chance to be the biggest all around impact player in this draft. he might not be Darren but he is just a versatile.

Dump Cadet for your kid is cool with me. oh can he do returns while he is learning? if so i say thats a no brainer

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And if DLP re-signs with the Saints?!?

He hasn't had a sudden demand on the market as expected...

He was a journey offensive lineman prior to joining the Saints...

He may realize that this is his best opportunity for success in the NFL...
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