2014 NFL Draft

jeanpierre · 04-17-2014, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by papz

Aaron Murray (ACL) threw 52-of-54 catchable balls at Georgia’s pro day on Wednesday, but NFL.com's Gil Brandt noted that "toward the end of the workout it appeared as if his arm got tired."

Murray's surgically-repaired knee "looked stable" in front of reps from 20 NFL teams. Included in that bunch were the QB coaches from the Cowboys, Jaguars, Chiefs, Saints and Rams. Interestingly, Jacksonville also sent its head coach (Gus Bradley) and general manager (David Caldwell), while St. Louis dispatched director of player personnel Taylor Morton. Brandt did clarify that, despite the fatigue, Murray looked good. "He’s a not-get-too-high or not-get-too-low type of player," the analyst wrote. "If there’s a run on quarterbacks in the second round of the 2014 NFL Draft, he could wind up being selected in that round."

Source: NFL.com

I'd rather have Jordan Matthews, Donte Moncrief or Martavis Bryant in the second round - but I can see Payton taking Eastern Illinois Quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo in the second round - if he lasted that long...

Actually like Aaron Murray and he's the reason I DON'T trust Mettenberger as he beat him out at Georgia...

In truth, see the Saints picking prospects I'm not as high on; there's prospects I like better than they may take; and I'm hoping for a situation like last year with the injuries in that other teams' moves, selections force their hand and they end up with the best player for the team...

Last year Saints FO nailed it in the draft, until the last pick at least; this season, I'm hoping for smoke screens and that they take Attaochu and wait for a guy like Aikens in the fourth-fifth round...

Seer1 · 04-17-2014, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Tracking teams' interest in top 2014 NFL Draft prospects - NFL.com

New Orleans Saints

General manager at pro day: Alabama, LSU
Head coach at pro day: Alabama, LSU
Reported workout/visits: Aaron Colvin, CB, Oklahoma; Pierre Desir, CB, Lindenwood; Justin Gilbert, CB, Oklahoma State; Demetri Goodson, CB, Baylor; Robert Herron, WR, Wyoming; Marqise Lee, WR, USC; Marcus Martin, C, USC; Calvin Pryor, S, Louisville; Bradley Roby, CB, Ohio State...

Anyone remember how many of our draftees we visited with last year? It seems to me we only visited with about half of them. But hell, I have trouble remembering where I put my glasses...

jeanpierre · 04-17-2014, 10:22 PM

Draft Diamonds Prospect Interview: Alvin Scioneaux, LB, Wofford

jeanpierre · 04-17-2014, 10:24 PM

2014 NFL Draft visits / workouts | ProFootballTalk

New Orleans Saints

Oklahoma cornerback Aaron Colvin. [V]

Lindenwood cornerback Pierre Decir. [V]

Central Arkansas tight end Chase Dixon.

Oklahoma State cornerback Justin Gilbert. [V]

Baylor cornerback Demetri Goodson. [V]

Wyoming wide receiver Robert Herron. [V]

Boise State defensive end Demarcus Lawrence. [V]

USC wide receiver Marqise Lee. [V]

USC center Marcus Martin.

Purdue offensive tackle Kevin Pamphile. [V]

Louisville safety Calvin Pryor. [V]

Ohio State cornerback Bradley Roby. [V]

Wofford outside linebacker Alvin Scioneaux. [W]

Clemson offensive lineman Brandon Thomas.(VW)

Middle Tennessee State offensive lineman Josh Walker. (VW)

Jack Vegas · 04-18-2014, 01:55 AM

After 54 throws his arm got tired??? No crap, Gil Brandt, let's put you out there to throw the ball 54 times and see if your arm doesn't get tired. There have only been a handful of times a QB threw that many times in a game, and they're getting breaks in between series.

Jack Vegas · 04-18-2014, 01:57 AM

I'm hoping that any interest in Roby is a smokescreen. That guy is not a football player. If we take a CB early it needs to be Verrett.

jeanpierre · 04-18-2014, 09:35 AM

Kyle Fuller currently projects on many boards at No. 27...

While I'd be crushed if we don't get Attaochu, could live with Fuller...

While I'd clearly disclosed I don't like Ohio St - I'd be very, very disappointed if we took another OSU player like Shazier or Roby...

We've had our quota in Will Smith and Malcolm Jenkins; they too were billed as fast, stong athletes; the only speed I ever saw out of either of them was Jenkins catching a player from behind, at our goal line...

While I appreciated the effort, I'd rather our defense never let it get to that point - don't get the Saints FO fascination with OSU players; their supposed speed/athleticism never translates to NFL Football Fields...

Seer1 · 04-18-2014, 11:20 AM

Hey Jeanpierre, I'd argue with your use of the word never, but that's really not the point. You brought up two pretty poor examples and if I really had the energy, I'd bet I could match you at least three to one in successful NFL players from tOSU. But really, who cares?

I think you're absolutely right about Roby. I've spent way too many hours watching his play over the past three years and he's about as over rated as it gets. I'm really hoping someone reads the hype and picks him before us so we don't even have to worry about it.

Shazier, on the other hand would give us a second Vaccaro on the team as far as lights out hitting goes... for a little while. He'll end up in rehab pretty quickly as pro players are a little larger and more savvy when it comes to crazy heads down body tackling.

I'm hoping we don't draft either too. Just wanted to say something about blanket statements.

jeanpierre · 04-18-2014, 07:30 PM

Seer1, PM a list of OSU players and I'll respond and you'll see where I'm coming from re: OSU alum when you see the names/expectations...

There's some exceptions, but there mostly role players...

hagan714 · 04-18-2014, 08:06 PM

Kyle Fuller injury history, Roby is inconsistent at best. Alvin Scioneaux? UDFA? a bit on the small side have to read up on the kid

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04-17-2014, 10:49 AM	#791
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by papz Aaron Murray (ACL) threw 52-of-54 catchable balls at Georgia’s pro day on Wednesday, but NFL.com's Gil Brandt noted that "toward the end of the workout it appeared as if his arm got tired." Murray's surgically-repaired knee "looked stable" in front of reps from 20 NFL teams. Included in that bunch were the QB coaches from the Cowboys, Jaguars, Chiefs, Saints and Rams. Interestingly, Jacksonville also sent its head coach (Gus Bradley) and general manager (David Caldwell), while St. Louis dispatched director of player personnel Taylor Morton. Brandt did clarify that, despite the fatigue, Murray looked good. "He’s a not-get-too-high or not-get-too-low type of player," the analyst wrote. "If there’s a run on quarterbacks in the second round of the 2014 NFL Draft, he could wind up being selected in that round." Source: NFL.com I'd rather have Jordan Matthews, Donte Moncrief or Martavis Bryant in the second round - but I can see Payton taking Eastern Illinois Quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo in the second round - if he lasted that long... Actually like Aaron Murray and he's the reason I DON'T trust Mettenberger as he beat him out at Georgia... In truth, see the Saints picking prospects I'm not as high on; there's prospects I like better than they may take; and I'm hoping for a situation like last year with the injuries in that other teams' moves, selections force their hand and they end up with the best player for the team... Last year Saints FO nailed it in the draft, until the last pick at least; this season, I'm hoping for smoke screens and that they take Attaochu and wait for a guy like Aikens in the fourth-fifth round... hagan714 and MarchingOn like this.
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04-17-2014, 12:24 PM	#792
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by jeanpierre Tracking teams' interest in top 2014 NFL Draft prospects - NFL.com New Orleans Saints General manager at pro day: Alabama, LSU Head coach at pro day: Alabama, LSU Reported workout/visits: Aaron Colvin, CB, Oklahoma; Pierre Desir, CB, Lindenwood; Justin Gilbert, CB, Oklahoma State; Demetri Goodson, CB, Baylor; Robert Herron, WR, Wyoming; Marqise Lee, WR, USC; Marcus Martin, C, USC; Calvin Pryor, S, Louisville; Bradley Roby, CB, Ohio State... Anyone remember how many of our draftees we visited with last year? It seems to me we only visited with about half of them. But hell, I have trouble remembering where I put my glasses... hagan714 likes this.

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04-17-2014, 10:24 PM	#794
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2014 NFL Draft 2014 NFL Draft visits / workouts \| ProFootballTalk New Orleans Saints Oklahoma cornerback Aaron Colvin. [V] Lindenwood cornerback Pierre Decir. [V] Central Arkansas tight end Chase Dixon. Oklahoma State cornerback Justin Gilbert. [V] Baylor cornerback Demetri Goodson. [V] Wyoming wide receiver Robert Herron. [V] Boise State defensive end Demarcus Lawrence. [V] USC wide receiver Marqise Lee. [V] USC center Marcus Martin. Purdue offensive tackle Kevin Pamphile. [V] Louisville safety Calvin Pryor. [V] Ohio State cornerback Bradley Roby. [V] Wofford outside linebacker Alvin Scioneaux. [W] Clemson offensive lineman Brandon Thomas.(VW) Middle Tennessee State offensive lineman Josh Walker. (VW)

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04-18-2014, 01:55 AM	#795
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: 2014 NFL Draft After 54 throws his arm got tired??? No crap, Gil Brandt, let's put you out there to throw the ball 54 times and see if your arm doesn't get tired. There have only been a handful of times a QB threw that many times in a game, and they're getting breaks in between series. jeanpierre likes this.
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Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: 2014 NFL Draft I'm hoping that any interest in Roby is a smokescreen. That guy is not a football player. If we take a CB early it needs to be Verrett. jeanpierre and MarchingOn like this.
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04-18-2014, 09:35 AM	#797
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Kyle Fuller currently projects on many boards at No. 27... While I'd be crushed if we don't get Attaochu, could live with Fuller... While I'd clearly disclosed I don't like Ohio St - I'd be very, very disappointed if we took another OSU player like Shazier or Roby... We've had our quota in Will Smith and Malcolm Jenkins; they too were billed as fast, stong athletes; the only speed I ever saw out of either of them was Jenkins catching a player from behind, at our goal line... While I appreciated the effort, I'd rather our defense never let it get to that point - don't get the Saints FO fascination with OSU players; their supposed speed/athleticism never translates to NFL Football Fields... ChrisXVI and K Major like this.
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04-18-2014, 11:20 AM	#798
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Hey Jeanpierre, I'd argue with your use of the word never, but that's really not the point. You brought up two pretty poor examples and if I really had the energy, I'd bet I could match you at least three to one in successful NFL players from tOSU. But really, who cares? I think you're absolutely right about Roby. I've spent way too many hours watching his play over the past three years and he's about as over rated as it gets. I'm really hoping someone reads the hype and picks him before us so we don't even have to worry about it. Shazier, on the other hand would give us a second Vaccaro on the team as far as lights out hitting goes... for a little while. He'll end up in rehab pretty quickly as pro players are a little larger and more savvy when it comes to crazy heads down body tackling. I'm hoping we don't draft either too. Just wanted to say something about blanket statements.
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04-18-2014, 07:30 PM	#799
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Seer1, PM a list of OSU players and I'll respond and you'll see where I'm coming from re: OSU alum when you see the names/expectations... There's some exceptions, but there mostly role players...

04-18-2014, 08:06 PM	#800
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Kyle Fuller injury history, Roby is inconsistent at best. Alvin Scioneaux? UDFA? a bit on the small side have to read up on the kid

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