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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; All this attention to defense you KNOW Sean Payton is going offense early... Check this kid out. Breashad Perrmian. Breshad Perriman | Draft Breakdown...

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Old 03-12-2015, 03:22 PM   #531
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All this attention to defense you KNOW Sean Payton is going offense early...


Check this kid out. Breashad Perrmian.

Breshad Perriman | Draft Breakdown
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Old 03-12-2015, 06:12 PM   #532
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 View Post
All this attention to defense you KNOW Sean Payton is going offense early...


Check this kid out. Breashad Perrmian.

Breshad Perriman | Draft Breakdown
Coach would have to be put in a straight jacket...

Some have mocked Perriman to the Ravens as high as the first round...

His dad Brett Perriman, wide receiver, played for the Saints (1988–1990) and was Jim Mora's dream pick and later considered a bust/disappointment out of the U (Miami, FL)...

Breshad Perriman's greatest traits are his impressive catch radius and his size/how he uses it...

After Interior Lineman Ali Marpet, Hobart and Tevin Coleman, RB, Indiana, sure, I'd take Perriman with our third round pick; but he won't be there...

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Old 03-13-2015, 11:58 PM   #533
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Brian Baldinger mock... Not bad I could live with it, would prefer Scherff but I'd be content.

2015 NFL Mock Drafts : Mock draft 1.0: Marcus Mariota drops to Browns
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Old 03-14-2015, 12:56 AM   #534
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If Mariota is there between 8-10 i could really see us moving up for him.
Dont mind them picks for us though
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Old 03-14-2015, 05:04 AM   #535
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Some interesting prospect around the back end of the first round.

Not really looked alot at some of these players due to them not being top 15 picks and probably gone by our second rounder.

Thoughts on any of these

DTARIK ARMSTEAD
OREGON PAC-12

COMBINE RESULTS
40 -5.10 SEC
Bench - 24 REPS
Vert - 34.0 INCH
Broad - 117.0 INCH
3 cone - 7.57 SEC
Shuttle - 4.53 SEC


6'7" HEIGHT
33" ARM LENGTH
292LBS. WEIGHT
10 1/2" HANDS

ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS
Improved by leaps and bounds from 2013 to 2014. Elite size with ability to add more bulk to his frame. Quick-twitch athlete. Explodes upfield into blockers with good pad level and hip snap, gaining instant leverage against the run and often jarring them into the backfield. Gets good arm extension to control offensive linemen and peppers them with powerful hands. Can unlock quickly from blocks. Has above-average tackle radius thanks to his length and quickness.

WEAKNESSES
Power-based pass rush with very little production to show for it over his time at Oregon. Plays tall as pass rusher and doesn't use his hands to gain consistent advantages. Has no reliable counter moves when rush stalls. Gets caught up in whipping man in front of him rather than making the ball carrier his focus. Will win against an offensive lineman, but doesn't put himself into position to finish.

SOURCES TELL US
"I see the power in his hands and all of his tools, but I don't see the production or the consistent push that I feel like I should see from him. He could end up being a monster, but you have to understand that what you get right now is just a big athlete with some upside." -- Pac-12 area scout

NFL COMPARISON Calais Campbell

BOTTOM LINE
Projection-based prospect with elite size and the traits to become a dominant run-stuffing defensive end in an odd front. Armstead has the explosiveness off the snap and in his jarring punch to gain early advantages and control offensive linemen. Armstead is a fast riser but is still very raw. He will need patience and coaching and must become a more effective pass rusher at some point.



Remember at the end of this coming season both Cam and Hicks are out of contract
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NT JORDAN PHILLIPS
OKLAHOMA BIG 12

6'5" HEIGHT
34 3/4"ARM LENGTH
329LBS. WEIGHT
9 3/8" HANDS

40 5.17 SEC
bench 28 REPS
vert 30.0 INCH
broad 105.0 INCH
3 cone 7.88 SEC
shuttle 4.68 SEC

ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS
Massive frame with long arms. Athletic lower body for a man his size. Read-and-react two-gap nose with ability to eat space and free linebackers. Uses length effectively and was able to split double teams as season wore on. Swim move for quick wins and trips into backfield when Sooners let him penetrate. Athletic with nimble feet and pursuit speed of a man much lighter. Should be able to carry additional muscle and girth.

WEAKNESSES
Scouts consider him a flash player who can dominate a game but will disappear during stretches. Needs to play with better knee bend and lower pad level. Loses some leverage and becomes top-heavy wrestler at times. Not effective as pass rusher. Stalls out early and settles for looking to bat down passes. Doesn't crank up a consistent bull rush. Consistency of motor could be improved.

SOURCES TELL US "He has the body type and length to play in a 3-4 or 4-3 front, but there is no reason to move him from the nose. If he gets that motor going, he could be a dominant pro." -- AFC North scout

NFL COMPARISON Terrance Knighton

BOTTOM LINE Nose tackle with desired height, weight and speed. Flashes talent necessary to project a ceiling as a dominant run stuffer best suited for a 3-4 defense. Phillips' ability to eat up blocks should help him earn a high grade, but it's his potential as a big athlete with above-average range for the position that could turn him into a Pro Bowl nose.



We need to get a big man to anchor this defensive front.
Bunkley time must be running short and though Jenkins showed flashes he had a rep out of college as lazy(if i remember correct) and he is prone too putting on weight. We need a rotation to keep the big guys fresh either way

"Two receivers to the left, Garcon to the right. Manning in the shotgun, puts Collie in motion. Looks in his direction...it's picked off! It's picked off! It's Tracy Porter again! He's runnin' free! He's gonna go all the way!
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OT ERECK FLOWERS
MIAMI ACC


40 5.31 SEC
bench 37 REPS


6'6" HEIGHT
34 1/2" ARM LENGTH
329LBS. WEIGHT
9 7/8" HANDS

OVERVIEW
As a junior in 2014, started all but one game at left tackle and was second-team All-ACC selection. Flowers suffered a knee injury in the middle of the season and reportedly underwent a surgical procedure to repair the injury but missed only one game because of it. Admonished for using an obscene gesture toward Nebraska fans after an on-field skirmish. In 2013, started all 13 games at left tackle. In 2012, started four games as a freshman at right tackle. Ranked as a four-star prospect by Scout and Rivals coming out of Miami Norland High School. Helped lead team to a 15-0 record and Class 5A state championship. Was the only player at the NFL Scouting Combine who decided not to hire an agent.

ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS
Big, athletic frame carrying more than 320 pounds with ease. Ascending mauler in the run game. Bender who is low man off snap and pops hips into block to leverage defender at the point. Combines hips, arm extension and upper-body power to consistently turn his man when base blocking. Once he gets upper hand in run game, he usually sustains and finishes. Secures combo block with a vengeance. Has feet to become solid zone blocker. Mean and highly competitive. Wants to dominate and gets surly when beaten on a snap. Special foot quickness in pass protection. Able to mirror and counter two-way rushers or B-gap blitzers. Uses quick feet and loose hips to turn, scramble and recover when beaten. Pass-set depth and technique improved as year progressed. Has played both tackle positions.

WEAKNESSES
Pass protection needs plenty of work. Footwork gets sloppy
and undisciplined, causing base to narrow. Ducks head into contact and is a leaner in pass pro, creating balance problems. Rarely flat-footed upon initial hand contact. Throws hands rather than firing authoritative punch. Hands ride too high and too wide. Content to become grabby around framework of defender. Flagged for six holding penalties over last two seasons. Slow to secure and climb on combo blocks and is often lacking balance on the way to target. Doesn't bring feet under him to sustain second-level blocks. Knocked off balance by smaller pass rushers due to poor balance. Hips looked tight and struggled to gain ground when asked to pass set in combine drills.

NFL COMPARISON Anthony Davis

BOTTOM LINE
While they have different body types, Flowers will have some of the same strengths and flaws 2014 first-round pick Greg Robinson had coming in. Flowers has the size, feet and talent to be a very good left tackle but he will be a work in progress unless he can eliminate some of the balance issues that could plague him.


We need to start looking for depth and a eventual replacement for Strief
This guy looks like he could be a monster in the run game and with a bit of mentoring a good allround ROT

Love the bit in the Florida game(around 1:35) he is straight in there when it looked like somebody was going to stay on his RB on the ground. Just ready to stop any cheap shots. The next play is nice too,looks like he takes a quick hit to his right and then straight upfield pushing one defender then onto another opening space

"Two receivers to the left, Garcon to the right. Manning in the shotgun, puts Collie in motion. Looks in his direction...it's picked off! It's picked off! It's Tracy Porter again! He's runnin' free! He's gonna go all the way!
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Originally Posted by lsutigerfan View Post
Brian Baldinger mock... Not bad I could live with it, would prefer Scherff but I'd be content.

2015 NFL Mock Drafts : Mock draft 1.0: Marcus Mariota drops to Browns
I would rather Brandon Scherff and Perryman at 31.

Although I could live with Baldingers mock too.

and no way Mariota makes it to 12. Someone will jump into the top 10 to get him if he doesn't go in the top 5.
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Originally Posted by CheramieIII View Post
I would rather Brandon Scherff and Perryman at 31.


Scherff at 13? ben grubbs? who's that?

Perryman at 31? i still can not get on this band wagon for a 34 defense. if iam going small and athelic at 31 it would be Eric Kendricks. even then i worry about a 3 man front but he is all about instincts plan and simple

mine have not changed
Benardrick McKinney - field general.
Jake Fisher - #3 OT - polished swing man, ready go right out of the box
Kevin Johnson - #3 CB - dependable, steady no hype. ready to go
Stephone Anthony - #2 ILB - talk about a sky rocket off season

then you have what i think is the biggest tease in the draft. i can see why we would make such a pick. tease is just too tempting not to go for it

Arik Armstead - freak show crown of 2015

Originally Posted by CheramieIII View Post
Although I could live with Baldingers mock too.


DeVante Parker - true #1 WR. hands and a route tree already to go
Kevin White - #2 rout tree? i do not see one
Amari Cooper - #1/slot i think he will be one of the best slot WR the NFL
so i can live with Parker - Red flag foot injury. they come back to haunt you.

Thus Cooper is the only one of the three i would go after.

Originally Posted by CheramieIII View Post
and no way Mariota makes it to 12. Someone will jump into the top 10 to get him if he doesn't go in the top 5.


gets past the brownies? hell the phone will be ringing off the hook. let the bidding war begin. trade down for players and picks in a heart beat.

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my three have not changed
Jake Fisher - #3 OT - polished swing man, ready go right out of the box

ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS
Former tight end who moves easily and naturally. Good initial quickness to reach cross-face blocks. Finisher in zone game. Can sustain blocks with proper hip roll and balance through contact. Keeps base wide and uses choppy, controlled steps in pass sets. Mirrors well and has feet to shut down stunts inside. Well-timed and effortless transition from initial block to second-level assignment. Adjusts with good change of direction. Fights back with resolution after losing a rep to defender. Understands how to create leverage advantages with angles and footwork.

WEAKNESSES
One of the most penalized tackles in 2015 draft class over last two seasons, including six holding calls during 2014 season. Needs angles to get consistent push in run game. Lacks power. Allows outside hand to get wide in pass pro, opening himself up to bull rush. Catches pass rusher rather than punching. Not much pop in his hands. Inconsistent feet as a run blocker, slowing feet at contact against power. Missed part of 2014 with a leg injury. Needs weight-room work to add more bulk to his frame. Needs to improve his contact balance against power.

BOTTOM LINE
If you are a zone-based team looking for an athletic, well-schooled tackle who can come in and compete for a starting position right away, then Fisher is your guy. He has the feet to play the left side and is savvy enough in the run game to man the right side. He needs more weight on his frame, but guard is also an option for Fisher.


Sounds interesting
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