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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Nope. You'll just blindly think all they do is blunder. At Drafting LB position, yes...until they show otherwise. And it’s not blindly, it’s quite obviously based on performance if you’d open your eyes and mind....

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Old 05-04-2021, 04:41 PM   #991
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Nope. You'll just blindly think all they do is blunder.

At Drafting LB position, yes...until they show otherwise. And it’s not blindly, it’s quite obviously based on performance if you’d open your eyes and mind.
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At Drafting LB position, yes...until they show otherwise. And it’s not blindly, it’s quite obviously based on performance if you’d open your eyes and mind.
List all of their LB drafting blunders. I'm curious as to what you see as blunders. And keep it to the new college regime so it's relevant.
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Stephon Anthony for dammed sure, Boston! Don’t mean to but in


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Here's a little help, Boston. Every LB drafted under the Ireland regime.

Note that 2015 was a transition year between college scouting staffs. Ireland and staff's first full scouting season was 2016.

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YearRndPlayerPickPosToAP1PBStCarAVG
20212Pete Werner60LB 000  
20203Zack Baun74LB2020000215
20197Kaden Elliss244LB2020000118
20173Alex Anzalone76LB20200001138
20173Trey Hendrickson103OLB20200011345
20151Stephone Anthony31ILB20190011062
20152Hau'oli Kikaha44OLB2017001527
20155Davis Tull148OLB 000  

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That’s plenty of blunders enough on that list


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Stephon Anthony for dammed sure, Boston! Don’t mean to but in


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See the new post, ST. Anthony wasn't truly an Ireland product. It was not a success, but regardless, it wasn't a "blunder". It was a miss though, definitely.
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That’s plenty of blunders enough on that list


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Once again, 2015 was based upon a scouting staff fired in January and a totally new staff having to scout on short notice.
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List all of their LB drafting blunders. I'm curious as to what you see as blunders. And keep it to the new college regime so it's relevant.
List all the LB successes.
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Old 05-04-2021, 07:28 PM   #999
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List all the LB successes.
This team will never have a successful LB drafted if they continue to change their positions.

Zach Baun is one that worries me, spent his collegiate career rushing the passer and pretty sure he broke some college records.

SP - I know, let's put him at inside LB!!!
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido View Post
List all of their LB drafting blunders. I'm curious as to what you see as blunders. And keep it to the new college regime so it's relevant.
Khairi Fortt in the 4th #126 in the infamous 2014 Draft. We said, who?

Stephone Anthony in the 1st #31, 2015.
(Should've taken Eric Kendricks but everyone thought he was too small. Still starting and excelling (just like his brother--and that was a clue) w/ the Vikes. 2019 Pro Bowl)

Even worse: Kikaha in the 2nd #44, 2015.

Even worse, Davis Tull in the 4th #148, 2015.
Enough said. Was the scouting team fired after 2014 or 2015, I forget.

Not a "blunder", but a disappointment: Anzalone in the 3rd #76, 2017.
So "athletic" we let him go FA after sitting him when we got Kwon Alexander. I hated his play in the Sr Bowl. Did the FO watch?

Another disappointment: Martez Wilson in the 3rd #72 (kinda hi to miss), 2011. Should've never started but since he did, not a blunder.

These fit the our draft formula: fast, big enough, and athletic but not a good LB. And ignore medicals.
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