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Old 05-04-2021, 05:53 AM   #1
 
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Stephon Anthony for dammed sure, Boston! Don’t mean to but in


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Stephon Anthony for dammed sure, Boston! Don’t mean to but in


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See the new post, ST. Anthony wasn't truly an Ireland product. It was not a success, but regardless, it wasn't a "blunder". It was a miss though, definitely.
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That’s plenty of blunders enough on that list


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That’s plenty of blunders enough on that list


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Once again, 2015 was based upon a scouting staff fired in January and a totally new staff having to scout on short notice.
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Here is the Draft I wish we had (well, because that's who I would've picked on my pre-draft wish list)

1st #28, Safety Moehrig. Went $43. No idea why. Draft gurus would say I reached. Yeah, to help myself to success. Please pass so I can reach.

2nd #60, Edge Boogie Bashram. Went the next pick. Woulda loved to call that name all the time.

And, because I'm not silly enough to trade away two 3rd round picks:

3rd #98, CB Elijah Molden. There because he's 5' 10". Went #100. Surely would've at least been discussed in our draft room (given the bloodline connection to NO) and THERE if only we'd not "traded up" once again. I would've pounded the table then (maybe held my breath, too).

3rd #105, LB Jabril Cox, LSU. Went #115. No idea why he fell so far but I would've ignored it. Dallas did. Another table-pounding. They better know something (or get a new table).

4th #133. DT Daviyon Nixon, Iowa. Went #158 to Carolina (who know how to pick DTs).

Also, the chart Guido shared on historical ranking of best picks by round shows DL the best pick in the 4th at 37% starters. Go with the odds.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2015/...draft-by-round

Would've taken NT Shelvin LSU if still there, but he went #122. I would've said, where's SP when you need him?

6th #218. CB Tay Gowan, UCF. Went #223 because he opted out of 2020 season. Silly. Maybe Molden IS too short (but I doubt it).

And, because I'm not silly enough to trade away picks when the draft value charts practically give away a pick in the 7th:

7th #229. TE Soehner. Had him on my pre-draft "wish list" because he's 6/7", 272lbs, and can block and is underated for the catch. And that's the only way to get a Kelce in the late rounds.
But, we got him UDFA, hurray finally got one the FO agreed with. And they paid him like 120K.

7th #255. DT Josiah Bronson. Why not? Saints gave him $140K (the most) to sign him. He coulda been a draft-evader (with Carter not around to give him amnesty). Why risk it--that's why they call it a "Draft."

I also had on my list (instead of Bronson above) to use this last pick on Ar'Darius Washington, the "other TCU Safety". There because he's 5'8", 178 lbs. In the 7th, I say "to hell with the odds."

Wouldn't it be cool to have 2 safeties (Moehrig and Washington) who just excelled together and see if synergy and immediate cohesion translates? Because, it did at least once.

https://www.espn.com/blog/san-franci...er-bowl-titles

"In 1981, the 49ers went DB crazy in the draft, selecting Ronnie Lott in the first round, Eric Wright as the second of two second-rounders, Carlton Williamson in the third round and Lynn Thomas in the fifth.

Lott and Wright were immediate starters at cornerback as rookies, while Williamson started at strong safety that first year. The revamped Niners secondary served as a springboard on the defensive side of the ball for the NFL's team of the '80s."

Totally ruined my childhood and the 80s in one draft.
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Old 05-04-2021, 09:05 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by MarchingOn View Post
Here is the Draft I wish we had (well, because that's who I would've picked on my pre-draft wish list)

1st #28, Safety Moehrig. Went $43. No idea why. Draft gurus would say I reached. Yeah, to help myself to success. Please pass so I can reach.

2nd #60, Edge Boogie Bashram. Went the next pick. Woulda loved to call that name all the time.

And, because I'm not silly enough to trade away two 3rd round picks:

3rd #98, CB Elijah Molden. There because he's 5' 10". Went #100. Surely would've at least been discussed in our draft room (given the bloodline connection to NO) and THERE if only we'd not "traded up" once again. I would've pounded the table then (maybe held my breath, too).

3rd #105, LB Jabril Cox, LSU. Went #115. No idea why he fell so far but I would've ignored it. Dallas did. Another table-pounding. They better know something (or get a new table).

4th #133. DT Daviyon Nixon, Iowa. Went #158 to Carolina (who know how to pick DTs).

Also, the chart Guido shared on historical ranking of best picks by round shows DL the best pick in the 4th at 37% starters. Go with the odds.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2015/...draft-by-round

Would've taken NT Shelvin LSU if still there, but he went #122. I would've said, where's SP when you need him?

6th #218. CB Tay Gowan, UCF. Went #223 because he opted out of 2020 season. Silly. Maybe Molden IS too short (but I doubt it).

And, because I'm not silly enough to trade away picks when the draft value charts practically give away a pick in the 7th:

7th #229. TE Soehner. Had him on my pre-draft "wish list" because he's 6/7", 272lbs, and can block and is underated for the catch. And that's the only way to get a Kelce in the late rounds.
But, we got him UDFA, hurray finally got one the FO agreed with. And they paid him like 120K.

7th #255. DT Josiah Bronson. Why not? Saints gave him $140K (the most) to sign him. He coulda been a draft-evader (with Carter not around to give him amnesty). Why risk it--that's why they call it a "Draft."

I also had on my list (instead of Bronson above) to use this last pick on Ar'Darius Washington, the "other TCU Safety". There because he's 5'8", 178 lbs. In the 7th, I say "to hell with the odds."

Wouldn't it be cool to have 2 safeties (Moehrig and Washington) who just excelled together and see if synergy and immediate cohesion translates? Because, it did at least once.

https://www.espn.com/blog/san-franci...er-bowl-titles

"In 1981, the 49ers went DB crazy in the draft, selecting Ronnie Lott in the first round, Eric Wright as the second of two second-rounders, Carlton Williamson in the third round and Lynn Thomas in the fifth.

Lott and Wright were immediate starters at cornerback as rookies, while Williamson started at strong safety that first year. The revamped Niners secondary served as a springboard on the defensive side of the ball for the NFL's team of the '80s."

Totally ruined my childhood and the 80s in one draft.

They were some machines


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Wow, so now we're to believe they were leaking Farley as the target so as to prevent possible Jameis' confidence-shaking and butt-hurt...

So Mac Jones is Sean's type?


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Old 05-07-2021, 03:53 PM   #9
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This draft could not have gone any worse for the Saints. First they tried to trade into the top 10 for CB’s Horn or Surtain... no deal. Then, they tried trading in front of the Patriots for Mac Jones... no deal. They end up stuck at 28 and pick Davenport 2.0 with Sean Payton doing a presser afterwards sounding so defeated and pulling stuff out of his a$$ to talk up the pick.

Now in the 2nd round this happened:



We end up stuck with a two-down LB instead.

At least we got CB Paulson Adebo... the saving grace of this draft class.

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI View Post
This draft could not have gone any worse for the Saints. First they tried to trade into the top 10 for CB’s Horn or Surtain... no deal. Then, they tried trading in front of the Patriots for Mac Jones... no deal. They end up stuck at 28 and pick Davenport 2.0 with Sean Payton doing a presser afterwards sounding so defeated and pulling stuff out of his a$$ to talk up the pick.

Now in the 2nd round this happened:



We end up stuck with a two-down LB instead.


At least we got CB Paulson Adebo... the saving grace of this draft class.
So was all of this sarcasm, other's opinions, or were they yours? I'm confused.
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