Deshawn Watson.... should we?

neugey · 01-28-2021, 04:25 PM

If we are looking to acquire a Brees substitute in free agency and continue rotating in Taysom as an extra QB weapon like we did this year with Brees, I have a much cheaper and realistic option than Stafford - Fitzmagic.

Fitzmagic has the pro experience and enough left in his arm. His mileage/hits taken isn't as high because he's been a backup for various parts of his career. He's also never played for an offense or a coach this adept; in fact he's been with a lot of sorry teams.

Could possibly be a Rich Gannon/Raiders type situation where he gives us a peak year or two as a veteran. If we are looking for this kind of a player to fill the Brees void, could do a lot worse.

ChrisXVI · 01-28-2021, 05:04 PM

I’m 100% certain we’re rolling with Jameis next season.

The Dolphins will trade Tua and multiple high picks for Watson. The 49ers will trade for Stafford.

Lord_Saint83 · 01-28-2021, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

If we are looking to acquire a Brees substitute in free agency and continue rotating in Taysom as an extra QB weapon like we did this year with Brees, I have a much cheaper and realistic option than Stafford - Fitzmagic.

Fitzmagic has the pro experience and enough left in his arm. His mileage/hits taken isn't as high because he's been a backup for various parts of his career. He's also never played for an offense or a coach this adept; in fact he's been with a lot of sorry teams.

Could possibly be a Rich Gannon/Raiders type situation where he gives us a peak year or two as a veteran. If we are looking for this kind of a player to fill the Brees void, could do a lot worse.

The thing with Fitzpatrick is when he’s hot, he’s hotter than the sun but when he’s cold it’s really bad. There’s no happy medium with him

SmashMouth · 01-28-2021, 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Take another shot at drafting the next Patrick Mahommes in 2021.
.

Is there such an animal in the draft, though? Mahommes is a once in a generation talent. It's incredible only two coaches realized that, Reid and SP.

Boston Saint · 01-28-2021, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

No, there aren't. When you need to free up $30M there are, for $110M there arent at all and the agents of those that need to be restructured are waiting to rake Loomis over the coals because Loomis has no options.

Our Cap issue will drag out passed the draft because there will be holdouts for restructures. This is going to get ugly. Possibly insurrection at Pat O's.

“ No, there aren't.“

I guess time will tell won’t it.

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Rsanders24 · 01-28-2021, 07:36 PM

The Texans are a mess and have been for years. Watson would get the nod over Winston simply because he is better at taking care of the ball and wil run to pick up yards. The Bill O’Brien experiment was a disaster.

If it could be done within reason, I would love to see what SP could do with him.

K Major · 01-28-2021, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Is there such an animal in the draft, though? Mahommes is a once in a generation talent. It's incredible only two coaches realized that, Reid and SP.

Possibly …

Jamie Newton or even Mack Jones.

lee909 · 01-28-2021, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

“ No, there aren't.“

I guess time will tell won’t it.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=73rtIWZZUHA

Converting all these salaries into signing bonuses is great until you get to next year and the year after when the cap hit starts jumping massively and you have no way out from keeping these guys longer term because you have tied yourself into them.

Boston Saint · 01-28-2021, 09:28 PM

Maybe Lee. I’m not a cap expert. I’m pretty sure Loomis and company are though.

lee909 · 01-28-2021, 10:23 PM

They are of course
But we have seen the way the run things, there never really much space. Not that that is a bad thing, the problem is what happened this year wasn't and couldn't be account for, everyone was expected a relatively big jump in cap this year or next. You can see they expected to be able to do it with Brees, Alexander, Cooks contract all being able to open the space.

We will see though.

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neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,715 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Deshawn Watson.... should we? If we are looking to acquire a Brees substitute in free agency and continue rotating in Taysom as an extra QB weapon like we did this year with Brees, I have a much cheaper and realistic option than Stafford - Fitzmagic. Fitzmagic has the pro experience and enough left in his arm. His mileage/hits taken isn't as high because he's been a backup for various parts of his career. He's also never played for an offense or a coach this adept; in fact he's been with a lot of sorry teams. Could possibly be a Rich Gannon/Raiders type situation where he gives us a peak year or two as a veteran. If we are looking for this kind of a player to fill the Brees void, could do a lot worse. Rsanders24, lee909 and darksoul35 like this.

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Deshawn Watson.... should we? I’m 100% certain we’re rolling with Jameis next season. The Dolphins will trade Tua and multiple high picks for Watson. The 49ers will trade for Stafford.

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Lord_Saint83 100% Blunt Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Saint Gabriel, La Posts: 2,754	Re: Deshawn Watson.... should we? Originally Posted by neugey If we are looking to acquire a Brees substitute in free agency and continue rotating in Taysom as an extra QB weapon like we did this year with Brees, I have a much cheaper and realistic option than Stafford - Fitzmagic. Fitzmagic has the pro experience and enough left in his arm. His mileage/hits taken isn't as high because he's been a backup for various parts of his career. He's also never played for an offense or a coach this adept; in fact he's been with a lot of sorry teams. Could possibly be a Rich Gannon/Raiders type situation where he gives us a peak year or two as a veteran. If we are looking for this kind of a player to fill the Brees void, could do a lot worse. The thing with Fitzpatrick is when he’s hot, he’s hotter than the sun but when he’s cold it’s really bad. There’s no happy medium with him SmashMouth and SaintGnome like this.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,201 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Deshawn Watson.... should we? Originally Posted by K Major Take another shot at drafting the next Patrick Mahommes in 2021. . Is there such an animal in the draft, though? Mahommes is a once in a generation talent. It's incredible only two coaches realized that, Reid and SP.

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Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,482	Re: Deshawn Watson.... should we? The Texans are a mess and have been for years. Watson would get the nod over Winston simply because he is better at taking care of the ball and wil run to pick up yards. The Bill O’Brien experiment was a disaster. If it could be done within reason, I would love to see what SP could do with him.

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lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,809 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Deshawn Watson.... should we? Originally Posted by Boston Saint “ No, there aren't.“ I guess time will tell won’t it. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=73rtIWZZUHA Converting all these salaries into signing bonuses is great until you get to next year and the year after when the cap hit starts jumping massively and you have no way out from keeping these guys longer term because you have tied yourself into them. gosaints1 likes this.

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lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,809 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Deshawn Watson.... should we? They are of course But we have seen the way the run things, there never really much space. Not that that is a bad thing, the problem is what happened this year wasn't and couldn't be account for, everyone was expected a relatively big jump in cap this year or next. You can see they expected to be able to do it with Brees, Alexander, Cooks contract all being able to open the space. We will see though.