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Old 03-01-2023, 05:16 PM   #371
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Was Andrus Peat present and did they go to Popeyes for Peat's favorite meal?
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Old 03-01-2023, 10:44 PM   #372
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Signing Derek Carr would bring our frwnchise the same glory and rings as if we had signed Drew Bledsoe when he left the Patriots. Very similar situation. Very similar age and caliber of player.

Mickey Loomis sees Carr as the next Drew B and he is right, in a way.
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Dubious source, FWIW.
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Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr

So basically the Saints have turned into a teenager.

It's all about getting your own Carr.
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So basically the Saints have turned into a teenager.

It's all about getting your own Carr.
I'm kind of ashamed I laughed at that.
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Old 03-02-2023, 09:40 AM   #376
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I'm kind of ashamed I laughed at that.
I just groaned a bit.
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Old 03-02-2023, 10:04 AM   #377
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Oh geez. The real question is how much are they gonna pay him to attempt to save Allen’s job. I hope Carr can play safety, offensive line, LB and WR because if they gave him too much money, we won’t have the money to sign people to those positions. Unless we hit every single pick in the draft. Which has never happened. For any team. Ever.
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Old 03-02-2023, 10:26 AM   #378
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Oh geez. The real question is how much are they gonna pay him to attempt to save Allen’s job. I hope Carr can play safety, offensive line, LB and WR because if they gave him too much money, we won’t have the money to sign people to those positions. Unless we hit every single pick in the draft. Which has never happened. For any team. Ever.
We have the available cap to sign all of those positions. Contracts can be structured with minimal first year cap hits quite easily.
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Old 03-02-2023, 03:13 PM   #379
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We have the available cap to sign all of those positions. Contracts can be structured with minimal first year cap hits quite easily.
How many times have we had to let good players go because we could not afford to keep them and they balled out when they left? I don't know but it's way too many. The championships were littered with players we couldn't afford to keep because of restructured contracts while we act like a teen ager with dad's credit card. Sometimes you have to pick your poison. I'm no accountant but I do know that all bills eventually have to be paid off. I don't want to move money forward just to lose valuable contributors at the cost of mortgaging the future for some wins now.

The only way out of this scenario seems to be better cap management or cleaning house eventually of bloated contracts to get some relief. The cap goes up annually but our spending seems to be rising even faster and we have barely been treading water for years.

Drew is gone and so is Sean and yet we are still playing the shell game as if they were both here. If Derek Carr is the chosen one and leads the Saints to the playoffs every year then we can keep kicking the can down the road. If not, then there is likely a harsh rebuild in the immediate future.

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Old 03-02-2023, 05:11 PM   #380
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How many times have we had to let good players go because we could not afford to keep them and they balled out when they left? I don't know but it's way too many. The championships were littered with players we couldn't afford to keep because of restructured contracts while we act like a teen ager with dad's credit card. Sometimes you have to pick your poison. I'm no accountant but I do know that all bills eventually have to be paid off. I don't want to move money forward just to lose valuable contributors at the cost of mortgaging the future for some wins now.

The only way out of this scenario seems to be better cap management or cleaning house eventually of bloated contracts to get some relief. The cap goes up annually but our spending seems to be rising even faster and we have barely been treading water for years.

Drew is gone and so is Sean and yet we are still playing the shell game as if they were both here. If Derek Carr is the chosen one and leads the Saints to the playoffs every year then we can keep kicking the can down the road. If not, then there is likely a harsh rebuild in the immediate future.
We have not let players go because we could not pay them. We have, however, chosen to not pay them what they were demanding. That's a huge difference. Name a single player that left because we could not pay them. I can show you that we had the cap available in every case. All NFL teams let players go when the player wants more than the team is willing to pay. That's not a Saints thing. That's the case with all 32 teams in the league.

As for not being an accountant, that's what my degree is in, Accounting. That's why I am so much into the cap management. We have the cap, it is simply how it is being accounted that some cannot fathom, it appears.

I repeat, the cap is going to be in excess of $300 million before the end of this decade. Given the latest deals that is a given. Also by the end of this decade it's likely almost every team in the league will have adopted this same method of cap management technique.

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