Grading the 2018 Saints draft class, three years in | USA Today/SaintsWire

AsylumGuido · 03-04-2021, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

I guess it’s semantics then. What one means by the rules of craps or what one means by the rules of blackjack. Both have their odds on the flip of a card or the roll of a dice. But I will say again this goes along with my earlier statement of doubting that 35% of drafted players make rosters. You casually changed the focus from drafted to rookie players to support that number. But when you say it doesn’t matter how much money you throw at it are you seriously saying that the amount of investigation (money) one does on draft choice not relevant? Is there a spectrum on how informed a person is there? Could my 7 year old nephew make as good a choice as Loomis since it’s nothing more than a blackjack hand?

You are "all or nothing" in your perspective. I am not. Could your 7 year old nephew make as good a choice as Loomis? Only if he had as many years of experience and all the the resources available. I haven't disputed that. However, is there any chance that Loomis, or any other person involved in making the draft selections, could draft a player that turns out to be a bust? Of course there is because of the inherent unknowns that are always in play. Is it a gamble? Of course. Is the gamble along the same odds as winning blackjack? Most likely not, but a gamble nonetheless.

As for the 35% that you can't seem to drop, I admitted that the implication of that percentage was misconveyed by others and with some research of my own actually included UDFA's. Pages ago I agreed that that number was totally invalid as far as draftees are concerned.

By labeling the draft as a "crapshoot" the pundits are simply saying there is a gamble connected with every selection. They also point out is a correlation between the round of the selection and the actual eventual success of that player, but there remains the possibility that failure may be the result regardless of the round.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Grading the 2018 Saints draft class, three years in \| USA Today/SaintsWire Originally Posted by Boston Saint I guess it’s semantics then. What one means by the rules of craps or what one means by the rules of blackjack. Both have their odds on the flip of a card or the roll of a dice. But I will say again this goes along with my earlier statement of doubting that 35% of drafted players make rosters. You casually changed the focus from drafted to rookie players to support that number. But when you say it doesn’t matter how much money you throw at it are you seriously saying that the amount of investigation (money) one does on draft choice not relevant? Is there a spectrum on how informed a person is there? Could my 7 year old nephew make as good a choice as Loomis since it’s nothing more than a blackjack hand? You are "all or nothing" in your perspective. I am not. Could your 7 year old nephew make as good a choice as Loomis? Only if he had as many years of experience and all the the resources available. I haven't disputed that. However, is there any chance that Loomis, or any other person involved in making the draft selections, could draft a player that turns out to be a bust? Of course there is because of the inherent unknowns that are always in play. Is it a gamble? Of course. Is the gamble along the same odds as winning blackjack? Most likely not, but a gamble nonetheless. As for the 35% that you can't seem to drop, I admitted that the implication of that percentage was misconveyed by others and with some research of my own actually included UDFA's. Pages ago I agreed that that number was totally invalid as far as draftees are concerned. By labeling the draft as a "crapshoot" the pundits are simply saying there is a gamble connected with every selection. They also point out is a correlation between the round of the selection and the actual eventual success of that player, but there remains the possibility that failure may be the result regardless of the round. Boston Saint likes this.
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