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And again with being wrong, how many time have you admitted to being wrong? :p |
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I’ve seen enough to know he is very good at what he does. My only concern continues to be availability. Makes the accomplishments Cam Jordan has made at LDE even more impressive. 2021, let’s do this. |
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Look Dalvin Cook finally had a healthy year and what a year it was, but geezhus, some guys just have no healthy constitution at all... |
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Now when have you admitted to being wrong? Not the wrong part, which is often, but the admission of it? Was it since the last Ice Age? ;) |
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Well, waiting. And I never said you were less of a Saints fan for your criticism. Nor am I any less of a Saints fan because I see very little to criticize these last 15 years or so. Anything I have seen is so trivial it has faded away. I must say though, the white Nike shoes with the white tuxedo by Payton was not a good look. |
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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2021 New Orleans Saints - Pending Suspensions
OFFENSE QB (3) 2 - Jameis Winston (FA 2021), 7 - Taysom Hill, 15 - Trevor Siemian (RFC 2021), 16 - Ian Book (R4, P133) RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 24 - Dwayne Washington (FA 2021), 37 - Tony Jones Jr. (RFC 2021), 34 - Stevie Scott III (UDFA 2021) FB (1) 40 - Alex Armah (FA 2021), 45 - Garrett Griffin (RFC 2021) WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 12 - Marquez Callaway, 19 - Jake Lampman (RFC 2021) WR-S (2) 88 - Ty Montgomery (FA 2021), 83 - Juwan Johnson (ERFA 2021), 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (ERFA 2021), 85 - Easop Winston (FA 2021) LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 73 - Ethan Greenidge, 68 - Kyle Murphy (FA 2021) LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 74 - James Hurst (FA 2021), 68 - Derrick Kelly C (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 64 - Will Clapp (RFA 2021), 61 - Christian Montano (FA 2021) RG (2) 51 - Cesar Ruiz, 76 - Calvin Throckmorton (RFC 2021), 65 - Mike Brown (UDFA 2021) RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 67 - Landon Young (R6, P206) TE (3) 82 - Adam Trautman, 81 - Nick Vannett (FA 2021), 86 - Ethan Wolf (RFC 2021), 89 - Dylan Soehner (UDFA 2021) WR-Z (2) 10 - Tre'Quan Smith, 11 - Deonte Harris, 14 - Kawaan Baker (R7, P255), 17 - Jalen McCleskey (FA 2021) DEFENSE RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 96 - Carl Granderson, 57 - Noah Spence (FA 2021), 59 - Marcus Willoughby (RFC 2021) NT (2) 99 - Shy Tuttle, 95 - Ryan Glasgow (RFC 2021), 60 - Albert Huggins (FA 2021), 00 - Lorenzo Neal, Jr (UDFA 2021) DT (2) 93 - David Onyemata (6 Gm Suspension), 97 - Malcolm Roach, 91 - Josiah Bronson (UDFA 2021), 77 - Jalen Dalton (RFC 2021) LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 98 - Payton Turner (R1, P28), 90 - Tanoh Kpassagnon, 70 - Christian Ringo (RFC 2021) WLB (2) 20 - Pete Werner (R2, P60), 42 - Chase Hansen (RFC 2021), 54 - Wynton McManis (RFC 2021) MLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 58 - Shaq Smith (UDFA 2021), 47 - Sutton Smith (FA2021), 00 - Quentin Poling (FA 2021) SLB (2) 53 - Zach Baun, 55 - Kaden Elliss, 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2021) RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 26 - P.J. Williams (FA 2021), 38 - Keith Washington Jr. NCB (2) 30 - Grant Haley (RFC 2021), 31 - Bryce Thompson (UDFA 2021), 35 - Lawrence Woods (UDFA 2021) FS (2) 43 - Marcus Williams (Non-Exclusive Franchise Tag 2021), 48 - J.T. Gray (FA 2021), 32 - Eric Burrell (UDFA 2021) SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins, 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 36 - Deuce Wallace (FA 2021) LCB (2) 29 - Paulson Adebo (R3, P76), 21 - Patrick Robinson, 25 - Ken Crawley (FA 2021) KICKING K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz P (1) 4 - Blake Gillikin, 5 - Nolan Cooney LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris 90-man Roster Count - Total: 85; Offense: 40; Defense: 41; Kicking: 4; Practice Squad: 0 Reserve/Injured Reserve/Non-Football Injury Reserve/Covid-19 Reserve/Opt-Out KEY: Projected Starter Free Agent (FA 2021) Waivers (Wv 2021) Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2021) Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2021) Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#) Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2021) Practice Squad (PS 2021) Injured, Reserve/Non-Football Injury (IR), Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform (PUP), Reserve/Opt-Out (OPT) Reserve/Covid-19 Reserve/Suspended By Commissioner STATUS:
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DT (2) 93 - David Onyemata (6 Gm Suspension), 97 - Malcolm Roach, 91 - Josiah Bronson (UDFA 2021), 77 - Jalen Dalton (RFC 2021)
Guys will have to step up quickly. |
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Maybe you need to look in the mirror, and by that what you post and how you post to others... You've no problem attacking the poster, when you should be challenging the contents of the post if you disagree... Make a lot of assumptions and demeaning statements about the poster, but when it comes your way, oh wow... You're just getting a taste of what you get; and you're getting dragged for it because well, you need to be made aware of it... There are a great many intelligent folks here, smarter than I am because of the time I'm taken to demonstrate (likely waste) giving you the tone you give others... When you've been corrected, which is more often than your ego cares to acknowledge, you deflect; being contrite and acknowledging it not a weakness... I've earned and given such acknowledgements and along the way made very good friends here because of a little humility and a lot of tolerance... Unlike smarter folks than I, I don't block your posts because I've got thick skin and a great deal of experience in debating... Mocking folks re: draft talk, demeaning folks who question free agency, or blowing up at folks complaining of poor play... You can make counterpoints in a positive constructive manner instead of trying to chase folks off the site because they upset your Saints world... #EndRant |
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Just face it. We are dramatically different types of fans. We even digest input on our Saints in dramatically different manners. I want to read as much as I can about my Saints, especially material with a positive spin. You, however, complain that writers are not critical enough for your taste and are therefore bad writers. I simply want to be a fan. It appears that you fancy yourself a critic. When it comes to the draft, I enjoy it because it brings new players to my Saints. But I also dislike the aspect of it where some people unfailingly ***** and moan about when and whom and what not. Once again, I am who I am. But, for you, I will do my best to try to ignore those that get their "enjoyment" in a more negative manner. By the way, what the hell is a Karen? |
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We will probably lose even more core players to free agency next year because of the lower salary cap. However, this also means that teams will be cutting high profile players for lower rookie or low end free agents salaries. I am still hopeful that we will sign good players after cuts.
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But you're right, we're currently way over the cap for 2022... |
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I would think that either Tre'quan Smith or Dante Harris would fit the traditional definition of a flanker, or what I believe you are defining as a Z. |
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You're the only one... |
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Fellas,
Training camp is right around the corner ! Can't wait :bng:. |
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I feel good about 3quan at the Z this year. If not him, Kawaan Baker seems intriguing.
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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2021 New Orleans Saints - Pending Suspensions
OFFENSE QB (3) 2 - Jameis Winston (FA 2021), 7 - Taysom Hill, 15 - Trevor Siemian (RFC 2021), 16 - Ian Book (R4, P133) RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 24 - Dwayne Washington (FA 2021), 37 - Tony Jones Jr. (RFC 2021), 34 - Stevie Scott III (UDFA 2021) FB (1) 40 - Alex Armah (FA 2021), 45 - Garrett Griffin (RFC 2021) WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 12 - Marquez Callaway, 19 - Jake Lampman (RFC 2021) WR-S (2) 88 - Ty Montgomery (FA 2021), 83 - Juwan Johnson (ERFA 2021), 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (ERFA 2021), 85 - Easop Winston (FA 2021) LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 73 - Ethan Greenidge, 68 - Kyle Murphy (FA 2021) LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 74 - James Hurst (FA 2021), 68 - Derrick Kelly C (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 64 - Will Clapp (RFA 2021), 61 - Christian Montano (FA 2021) RG (2) 51 - Cesar Ruiz, 76 - Calvin Throckmorton (RFC 2021), 65 - Mike Brown (UDFA 2021) RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 67 - Landon Young (R6, P206) TE (3) 82 - Adam Trautman, 81 - Nick Vannett (FA 2021), 86 - Ethan Wolf (RFC 2021), 89 - Dylan Soehner (UDFA 2021) WR-Z (2) 10 - Tre'Quan Smith, 11 - Deonte Harris, 14 - Kawaan Baker (R7, P255), 17 - Jalen McCleskey (FA 2021) DEFENSE RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 96 - Carl Granderson, 57 - Noah Spence (FA 2021), 59 - Marcus Willoughby (RFC 2021) NT (2) 99 - Shy Tuttle, 95 - Ryan Glasgow (RFC 2021), 60 - Albert Huggins (FA 2021), 00 - Lorenzo Neal, Jr (UDFA 2021) DT (2) 93 - David Onyemata (6 Gm Suspension), 97 - Malcolm Roach, 91 - Josiah Bronson (UDFA 2021), 77 - Jalen Dalton (RFC 2021) LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 98 - Payton Turner (R1, P28), 90 - Tanoh Kpassagnon, 70 - Christian Ringo (RFC 2021) WLB (2) 20 - Pete Werner (R2, P60), 42 - Chase Hansen (RFC 2021), 54 - Wynton McManis (RFC 2021) MLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 58 - Shaq Smith (UDFA 2021), 47 - Sutton Smith (FA2021), 00 - Quentin Poling (FA 2021) SLB (2) 53 - Zach Baun, 55 - Kaden Elliss, 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2021) RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 26 - P.J. Williams (FA 2021), 38 - Keith Washington Jr. NCB (2) 30 - Grant Haley (RFC 2021), 31 - Bryce Thompson (UDFA 2021), 35 - Lawrence Woods (UDFA 2021) FS (2) 43 - Marcus Williams (Non-Exclusive Franchise Tag 2021), 48 - J.T. Gray (FA 2021), 32 - Eric Burrell (UDFA 2021) SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins, 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 36 - Deuce Wallace (FA 2021) LCB (2) 29 - Paulson Adebo (R3, P76), 21 - Patrick Robinson, 25 - Ken Crawley (FA 2021) KICKING K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz P (1) 4 - Blake Gillikin, 5 - Nolan Cooney LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris 90-man Roster Count - Total: 85; Offense: 40; Defense: 41; Kicking: 4; Practice Squad: 0 Reserve/Injured Reserve/Non-Football Injury Reserve/Covid-19 Reserve/Opt-Out KEY: Projected Starter Free Agent (FA 2021) Waivers (Wv 2021) Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2021) Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2021) Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#) Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2021) Practice Squad (PS 2021) Injured, Reserve/Non-Football Injury (IR), Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform (PUP), Reserve/Opt-Out (OPT) Reserve/Covid-19 Reserve/Suspended By Commissioner STATUS:
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What little film of Baker I've seen, he might be there; he looks more like a WRs though... |
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Well Michael Thomas is out for roughly the first half of the season (June surgery, reported four month recovery time.)
It’s probably going to be a lost season. Start the rookies (Adebo, Werner, Turner, etc) and probably get a top ten pick in next year’s draft. We’ll be better for it in the long run. |
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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2021 New Orleans Saints - Training Camp Eve
OFFENSE QB (3) 2 - Jameis Winston (FA 2021), 7 - Taysom Hill, 15 - Trevor Siemian (RFC 2021), 16 - Ian Book (R4, P133) RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 24 - Dwayne Washington (FA 2021), 37 - Tony Jones Jr. (RFC 2021), 34 - Stevie Scott III (UDFA 2021) FB (1) 40 - Alex Armah (FA 2021), 45 - Garrett Griffin (RFC 2021) WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 12 - Marquez Callaway, 19 - Jake Lampman (RFC 2021), 18 - Easop Winston (FA 2021) WR-S (2) 88 - Ty Montgomery (FA 2021), 83 - Juwan Johnson (ERFA 2021), 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (ERFA 2021) LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 73 - Ethan Greenidge, 68 - Kyle Murphy (FA 2021) LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 74 - James Hurst (FA 2021), 68 - Derrick Kelly C (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 64 - Will Clapp (RFA 2021), 61 - Christian Montano (FA 2021) RG (2) 51 - Cesar Ruiz, 76 - Calvin Throckmorton (RFC 2021), 65 - Mike Brown (UDFA 2021) RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 67 - Landon Young (R6, P206) TE (3) 82 - Adam Trautman, 81 - Nick Vannett (FA 2021), 86 - Ethan Wolf (RFC 2021), 89 - Dylan Soehner (UDFA 2021) WR-Z (2) 10 - Tre'Quan Smith, 11 - Deonte Harris, 14 - Kawaan Baker (R7, P255), 17 - Jalen McCleskey (FA 2021) DEFENSE RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 96 - Carl Granderson, 57 - Noah Spence (FA 2021), 59 - Marcus Willoughby (RFC 2021) NT (2) 99 - Shy Tuttle, 95 - Ryan Glasgow (RFC 2021), 60 - Albert Huggins (FA 2021), 00 - Lorenzo Neal, Jr (UDFA 2021) DT (2) 93 - David Onyemata (6 Gm Suspension), 97 - Malcolm Roach, 91 - Josiah Bronson (UDFA 2021), 77 - Jalen Dalton (RFC 2021) LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 98 - Payton Turner (R1, P28), 90 - Tanoh Kpassagnon, 70 - Christian Ringo (RFC 2021) WLB (2) 20 - Pete Werner (R2, P60), 42 - Chase Hansen (RFC 2021), 54 - Wynton McManis (RFC 2021) MLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 58 - Shaq Smith (UDFA 2021), 47 - Sutton Smith (FA2021), 52 - Quentin Poling (FA 2021) SLB (2) 53 - Zach Baun, 55 - Kaden Elliss, 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2021) RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 26 - P.J. Williams (FA 2021), 38 - Keith Washington Jr. NCB (2) 00 - Brian Poole (FA 2021), 30 - Grant Haley (RFC 2021), 31 - Bryce Thompson (UDFA 2021), 35 - Lawrence Woods (UDFA 2021) FS (2) 43 - Marcus Williams (Non-Exclusive Franchise Tag 2021), 48 - J.T. Gray (FA 2021), 36 - Deuce Wallace (FA 2021) SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins, 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 32 - Eric Burrell (UDFA 2021) LCB (2) 29 - Paulson Adebo (R3, P76), 21 - Patrick Robinson, 25 - Ken Crawley (FA 2021) KICKING K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz P (1) 4 - Blake Gillikin, 5 - Nolan Cooney LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris 90-man Roster Count - Total: 86; Offense: 40; Defense: 42; Kicking: 4; Practice Squad: 0 Reserve/Injured Reserve/Non-Football Injury Reserve/Covid-19 Reserve/Opt-Out KEY: Projected Starter Free Agent (FA 2021) Waivers (Wv 2021) Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2021) Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2021) Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#) Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2021) Practice Squad (PS 2021) Injured, Reserve/Non-Football Injury (IR), Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform (PUP), Reserve/Opt-Out (OPT) Reserve/Covid-19 Reserve/Suspended By Commissioner STATUS:
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