Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 943705)

They are facing the reality that any rule/legislation/law made to promote equality by favoring one racial group over another is, by definition, unfair and unequal and will have consequences.

Flores “case” is proof of that. Because of the rule put in to try to artificially enforce an increase in black head coaches, Flores felt he was used as prop. Without the Rooney rule he may or may not have gotten a call from the Giants for an interview but he at least would have known if the interest was legit or a sham.

I also think the Giants should be able to hire whomever they want as HC (or anywhere else). Organizations that don’t want to take advantage of Black coaching talent would suffer the consequences. Long term successful organizations like the Steelers and Ravens whose coach/GM happen to be Black will take advantage and lead the way for others. But it is best to happen organically over time rather than by decree. Just like there are few Black Head coaches now, there were few Black QBs in the 70s and 80s when I grew up. Now, I don’t think there is any racial barrier for a Black QB and that happened naturally. The coaching situation will work itself out as well.

That’s just my opinions on things. I know it’s a touchy subject and I do not mean to offend anyone. Myself I want Winston back at QB and I’d by fine with Leftwich as a Head Coach, so I don’t think I have a bias. I would NOT want Flores though because it seems like he’s looking for one.

Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 943677)

I’m getting at the idea that there is not much evidence that Flores was treated with racial discrimination other than that teams were forced to give him a phony interview (in his opinion) to comply with a rule put in to pander to minority coaches.

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 943707)

Then why are we distilling it down to race

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 943708)

If I were someone in Flores situation I'd probably be pissed that I had to fly all over the country to meet with an organization that was never interested in me

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 943710)

I'm wondering the same thing, saintsfan1976. This lawsuit affects ALL avenues of the hiring and firing processes in the NFL. Lily white Jane Doe can be benefited, as well.

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 943713)

Statement from the lawyers:

“In certain critical ways, the NFL is racially segregated and is managed much like a plantation. Its 32 owners—none of whom are Black—profit substantially from the labor of NFL players, 70% of whom are Black. The owners watch the games from atop NFL stadiums in their luxury boxes, while their majority-Black workforce put their bodies on the line every Sunday, taking vicious hits and suffering debilitating injuries to their bodies and their brains while the NFL and its owners reap billions of dollars.”

Really out to help the lily whites....


I did read one good thing: Seeking retribution for the absolute failure of the NFL to protect retired players with healthcare and the sheer criminality of hiding scientific evidence regarding brain trauma.