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MatthewT 02-02-2022 04:01 PM
Re: Head Coach Search
 
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 943647)
So, the owner or whatever wanted him to tank for a better draft pick. Then, another team’s coach mistakenly calls him to congratulate him when another guy got the job. Maybe Im just not getting it, but where is the racial component? He WAS hired as a head coach, right?
I think some of the racial component has to do with the Denver interview. Just a big mess all the way around...

AsylumGuido 02-02-2022 04:30 PM
Re: Head Coach Search
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 943647)
So, the owner or whatever wanted him to tank for a better draft pick. Then, another team’s coach mistakenly calls him to congratulate him when another guy got the job. Maybe Im just not getting it, but where is the racial component? He WAS hired as a head coach, right?
Read this Twitter thread. Maddy Hudak does a great job of spelling out all of the components of the 58 page complaint. It's pretty straight forward ... and damning.

saintfan 02-02-2022 04:46 PM
Re: Head Coach Search
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 943651)
Read this Twitter thread. Maddy Hudak does a great job of spelling out all of the components of the 58 page complaint. It's pretty straight forward ... and damning.

https://twitter.com/MaddyHudak_94/st...05975196520458
How many times are you going to post this. Stop polluting all the threads. Damn man you're a piece of freaking work, you and your ego. :brood:

Boston Saint 02-02-2022 04:54 PM
Re: Head Coach Search
 
I don’t see anything here indicating this person was treated in any way negatively specifically because he was black. Just my opinion. The most glaring “racial” issue I see brought up is that black players are over represented at 70%. If the league was serious about “equity” then there would be a move to increase Asian, Hispanic, and White players.

rezburna 02-02-2022 04:59 PM
Re: Head Coach Search
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 943647)
So, the owner or whatever wanted him to tank for a better draft pick. Then, another team’s coach mistakenly calls him to congratulate him when another guy got the job. Maybe Im just not getting it, but where is the racial component? He WAS hired as a head coach, right?
The racial component is the fact they only interviewed him to satisfy the Rooney Rule and instead of being straight up and saying hey, we already wanna hire this other guy so this interview is a sham, they let him believe he had a chance when their decision was already made. He just so happened to find out about it and have some actual proof to show that the organizations just do what they need to to satisfy the rule. This is something Black coaches have talked about for years.

saintsfan1976 02-02-2022 05:36 PM
Re: Head Coach Search
 
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 943655)
The racial component is the fact they only interviewed him to satisfy the Rooney Rule and instead of being straight up and saying hey, we already wanna hire this other guy so this interview is a sham, they let him believe he had a chance when their decision was already made. He just so happened to find out about it and have some actual proof to show that the organizations just do what they need to to satisfy the rule. This is something Black coaches have talked about for years.
Help me understand.

If a rule stipulates coaches of a certain color must be interviewed and then you interview them, how is not landing the job now racist?

saintfan 02-02-2022 05:37 PM
Re: Head Coach Search
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 943626)

Honestly, tanking is a fan concept.
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What we know for certain is that the NFL's system for drafting college players incentivizes tanking -- losing on purpose. The team with the worst record picks at the top of each round. No owner has ever faced such a specific accusation, and paying any contracted employee -- coach or player -- off the books is a violation of the NFL's constitution.

It's worth noting that Flores' attorneys made this a class-action lawsuit, which means others can join if they have evidence or accusations to make. Longtime NFL coach Hue Jackson suggested Wednesday on Twitter that he received a similar offer from Cleveland Browns owner Jimmy Haslam in 2016.
Hey speedo, looks like it's not a one-off eh? Dummy. It happens every season. :rolleyes:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...king-plus-next

saintsfan1976 02-02-2022 05:43 PM
Re: Head Coach Search
 
And why is being a head coach the epitome of success in the NFL? Is it only related to pay?

How many total staff members of color are there in the entire NFL?

Are there enough coordinators? What about strength trainers? Communication directors?

Boston Saint 02-02-2022 05:43 PM
Re: Head Coach Search
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 943655)
The racial component is the fact they only interviewed him to satisfy the Rooney Rule and instead of being straight up and saying hey, we already wanna hire this other guy so this interview is a sham, they let him believe he had a chance when their decision was already made. He just so happened to find out about it and have some actual proof to show that the organizations just do what they need to to satisfy the rule. This is something Black coaches have talked about for years.
If it shook down that way I understand his feeling slighted, but that makes the rule racist not the teams and the way they treated him because of the rule. This outcome was totally predictable when you try to force acceptance rather than let it happen naturally. If teams are too stupid to interview potential coaches simply because they are black then they are missing out on a tremendous resource and their on field product will show it.

saintsfan1976 02-02-2022 05:44 PM
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And John Elway sounds like a drunk ******* but not necessarily a racist.


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