Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints?
 

Well if we don't get Watson (and I hope we don't), we've sure pissed off Ceedy Deuce and Winston with this BS. I sure hope Dennis Allen knows what he's doing. Because right now it sure seems like he's being a little careless.

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I agree 100%. It has us looking really weak and desperate when we aren’t. That’s what I liked about SP. He didn't kiss a FA’s arse, either you want to play here or not

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Given the questions still about Winston, and our other options it was a no brainer to go after Watson a known quality QB. (I was against this at first but I warmed to it) And honestly I think it's a stupid decision on Watson's not to come here. I have to say I'm not really scared of that Falcons team with him on it.
Yeah, DA gambled and there's some hard feelings but with Watson we could have solved the QB issue long term. To me it was worth the gamble I hate to lose Ceedy but he clearly has value so if he can't be brought back in the fold we should be able to get something good for him on a solo trade.

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One key difference between Watson and Winston is that with Winston we still have draft picks, with which we can select wide receivers. With Watson, all bets are on Michael Thomas showing up and staying healthy, which could be a risky bet. With Winston we could possibly draft multiple new receivers for depth. I don’t think Watson will be great with Deonte H as his #1 wr and Little Jordan Howard as #2.

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We still have Marquez Callaway, also. He's not bad. Better than anyone the Falcons have right now, minus Calvin Ridley, who may be in NFL jail the rest of his life.

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OK this guy is playing us now. I bet he's hoping we pull out so he doesn't need to make a decision. The problem is I don't want to loose anything to Atlanta.

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He’ll definitely compete but I see his ceiling as Chase Daniels.

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Careless is when the player finds out he's been traded by hearing it on the radio!
It IS a business. It's okay for a player to be upset because he finds out he's trade bait and feels "betrayed"?

When a player then leaves the team that gave him his start because another team offers him more $$$$$$$$$. Do the fans and team feel betrayed? I don't.

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Well said.

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Oh yeah Calloway. He is ok too, like Harris. The point is that those guys are #4 or #5 options on many playoff contenders, and if they are our #1 and #2 we have problems and won't be consistent. Plus they are human and miss games, and then if MT pulls an MT, we have Little Johnson Howard and Adam Troutman as our top threats and we maybe don't score any points. Its great that we have better receivers than Atlanta, but neither being #31 or #32 in the NFL in receiver core quality is good for getting value out of a QB you sell the farm for, and I don't trust Michael Thomas to be there.

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More assumptions being made about how players feel...

It was reported plenty of players on our own team were actively recruiting Watson. I think they all want to win and want the best players around them.

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Very fair & I can understand their position however I think this courtship with Desean needs to end. The Saints brass & coaches went up to discuss real options with DW to join a winning culture/organization but he contacted our worst rival to see if they had a position in all of this ??

Now enter Matty Icy hot to the equation, they are stalling to find a suitor for him. ATL is a bottom (Houston 2.0) tier team, no WR, no O line, no RB, no defense & a shaky HC but he needs the weekend to "think about it" ?

Saints got a top 7 defense, weapons on offense, All Pro on the line , basically a ready to win now team ... if you really want to "win", this is a EASY choice.

I say it's time to move on. Go find a QB to who wants to be here, use the 30M and find more dawgs at WR/OL/depth pieces & help us get back to where we want to be in late January.

Enough is enough with Desean's camp, his emotions and the stalling shenanigans.

End rant :bng:

Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints?
 

I want him here. But the good news is that as depleted at the dirty birds are, what they'll give up to get him will guarantee they'll suck for the next few years, so there's that.

If they're just waiting on the timing from Atlanta the right thing to do is reach out to us and let us know it's done so we can move on.

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I agree with you and several other people here....I’d love a franchise QB but I think it’s time to move on and utilize FA while there’s still quality guys there. Add in the draft with all the picks we saved and move forward.
Re-sign Winston or Minshew, grab a couple WR, o line depth and defense help where needed and I think we at least get into playoffs. Anything else can be addressed next year. Can’t have it all in one offseason...Rome wasn’t built in a day

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Michael Thomas was very durable for his first four seasons. It wasn't until the ankle injury that he played through in 2020 than he missed any significant time. There's no history that would indicate that he would not return to his normal dependable self once he returns to the field.

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We really have no idea what or who is holding things up right now. It could be Houston or one of the trade partners getting all of the "i's" dotted and "t's" crossed. There may need to be some pre-trade restructuring required. Watson may have already gave his consent on the no-trade clause.

Or not.

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My hope is that there is no "trade" partner. The Colts should be sick of the mediocrity at QB & ignore the band aid old vet @ QB. They recently tried with Rivers, then Wentz & both failed.

You're right though, we want to make Fontenot & Ryan Pace's job as hard as possible to win in the NFC South & beyond. They'll definitely need the draft capital.

... "Walks like a Falcon, quacks like a Falcon."

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Well why don't you reach out to one of your 'experts' on the twitter and come back here and plagiarize their content... :rolleyes:

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Just look at all the white people wanting a black QB... Hopefully the next time we debate QBs of different races no one tries to make race the central discussion point.

We are all BlackandGold:bng:

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I completely understand your point, and I agree completely. That said, I just want a GOOD QB, I don't care what color he is.

For the record, I loved Jeff Blake, back in the day. lol
Actually, the first jersey I ever bought with my own money was a Jeff Blake jersey in 2000. Then he got hurt and lost his job to Aaron Brooks. :(
Granted, Brooks was more talented, but he had issues.

Sorry for rambling, but it's really quiet right now and I'm bored.

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Before the injury, Blake was about to rip up the league 😀.

My dad thought he would be special in New Orleans.

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This is effing hilarious.

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Lol what?

I'm happy to be honest, can only imagine the ransom it took to get him there.

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If true... Thank God! :bng:

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Cleveland? Seriously???? They got better looking masseuses there or something?

Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints?
 

Good. Now that that’s over let resign Jameis and build this team for the next ten years

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What a joke. He really does want his career to be over!

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One of the craziest situations I can remember since Kawhi ultimately signed with the Clippers.

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If True, Cleveland Being Cleveland!

3 Winning Seasons Since 1994!

Cleveland QB'S since 2000:

2000 Doug Pederson (8) / Tim Couch (7) / Spergon Wynn (1)
2001 Tim Couch (16)
2002 Tim Couch (14) / Kelly Holcomb (2)
2003 Kelly Holcomb (8) / Tim Couch (8)
2004 Jeff Garcia (10) / Luke McCown (4) / Kelly Holcomb (2)
2005 Trent Dilfer (11) / Charlie Frye (5)
2006 Charlie Frye (13) / Derek Anderson (3)
2007 Derek Anderson (15) / Charlie Frye (1)
2008 Derek Anderson (9) / Brady Quinn (3) / Ken Dorsey (3) / Bruce Gradkowski (1)
2009 Brady Quinn (9) / Derek Anderson (7)
2010 Colt McCoy (8) / Jake Delhomme (4) / Seneca Wallace (4)
2011 Colt McCoy (13) / Seneca Wallace (3)
2012 Brandon Weeden (15) / Thad Lewis (1)
2013 Jason Campbell (8) / Brandon Weeden (5) / Brian Hoyer (3)
2014 Brian Hoyer (13) / Johnny Manziel (2) / Connor Shaw (1)
2015 Josh McCown (8) / Johnny Manziel (6) / Austin Davis (2)
2016 Cody Kessler (8) / Robert Griffin III (5) / Josh McCown (3)
2017 DeShone Kizer (15) / Kevin Hogan (1)
2018 Baker Mayfield (13) / Tyrod Taylor (3)
2019 Baker Mayfield (16)
2020 Baker Mayfield (16)
2021 Baker Mayfield (14) / Case Keenum (2) / Nick Mullens (1)

Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints?
 

Let’s hope this didn’t piss CJGJ off too much.

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All I can say is WTF???

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My old man was a Warren Moon fan. A huge Warren Moon fan.

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Wow. I would be understanding if he chose Atlanta. Cleveland though? Yeah...I'll never root for him.

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Lets see how good Allen and Loomis are at damage control.

Payton is drinking and laughing his mother f***ing azz off.

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Lol 5 year, 230M contract being reported.

Thank god he went elsewhere

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Remember what I said bout people that are prone to bad decisions?
They cant help themselves.